Rock

Not long.........is the answer.

stevebez

Two big problems

1. AWD vs 2WD
2. weight

For cars running roughly same power pure maths says the beast has no chance....

If the 996 has not got a beefed up clutch you might win if he cooks his clutch or snaps a half shaft... been known to happen on the 996's.

Havoc

Hey Rflow and Rock, do you guys know why MB AMG would use cast pistons in their 55Kompressor Engines?

JAYCL600

there are a bunch of 996tt's at this hp level running without the front driveshaft

ItalianStallion

Not that highway rolls are the same as the track, but I remember seeing Joon (AMG Ryder I think) with his Kleeman/VRP E55 videoing a run between a GT2 Proto700 and a s/c'ed C6 Vette (I know both of these guys, I've met them in person at the mexican cars meets lol). The E55 was floored and both the Porsche and the Corvette flew by him like he was standing still.

A 996TT with a 700hp package is going to be devistating. I doubt there are any Benzes out there that could roll with one...

stevebez

Why is this? Is it because they keep failing, or because there is too much drivetrain loss?

ItalianStallion

From what I've seen and heard from owners, they do it to lessen the drivetrain loss. Also, some people like the way a rwd car drives compared to an awd car. Porsche's GT2 is rwd and that is their best performer (leaving Carrera GT out of this, and even that is rwd as well).

Also, some remove the awd components for weight reduction.

JAYCL600

to echo what itailan stallion said above, its to reduce the DT loss and for weight reduction, think GT2 If i could do it again i would have snagged a 996tt, properly tuned they are devastatingly fast roll-on cars

ItalianStallion

Yup. I'm going to wait maybe 2 more years and pick up a 996TT that has been tuned correctly by Protosport already so I can save money and get what I consider as the ultimate car. I'd like to keep it awd though for street races.

rflow306

Why would you do that you have a perfect car now. My buddy with headers, tune, tb and intake on ZO6 plus nos has made 750 rwhp and has most of my Porsche friends on suicide watch after they have raced. Unless you are into racing way past 160 mph, I see no need for another car. That car with some 315 hoosiers on the back is deadly on the street in a roll on race.

Please don't take this the wrong way or as a hater comment but If a built porsche is not trapping 140 + after God knows how much money it really is not that impressive. Road coarse prowess aside just talking pure acceleration.

ItalianStallion

Oh, believe me, I know that lol. Just for some reason, the 996TT really appeals to me. The awd, the boosted motor, the engineering, the culture, the look, and the prestige. My car should already be trapping around 130 with an excellent driver, so I know that if I were to cam it or spray it, I'd be roasting almost anything on the road.

AMG Rider

It was Protomotive 700 GT2....I didn't really get to run them clearly since i was filming their race. but, from what i saw, result wouldve been the same~Kinda want to run one for fun still....might do this week when i go back home....

AMG Rider

AMGfan, Good luck!!
all i gotta say is.......


BURN THE CRAP OUT OF THOSE TIRES!
TRACTION TRACTION TRACTION!

Rock

My guess is a cast/teflon coated piston is a lot cheaper than forged. I don't thick Mercedes engineers were planing on guys like Albert abusing the internals with big wet shots.

rflow306

Here is some good info from mahle

http://www.mahle.com/C125705E004FDAF...6RJYU212MARSEN

The cast piston's in our e55's are considered the best cast pistons around and will hold a good amount of power, how much I don't know. The key imho is to keep your set-up detonation free.

Havoc

Thanks guys for the info!

Hey Jon, you just bring that buttah...
Good luck out there!

blackbenzz

I could have sworn the NA 55 motors had forged internals, am I wrong?

chiromikey

lol, having second thoughts...i could almost see the look on your face with all the plans you have for that badass clk!

blackbenzz

Yea I just pictured a rod going through my block LOL Well it's too late now. Boost has been slightly raised, nitrous is installed, and cams are on the way as well as some other small stuff. Oh well, if it blows that just means it is time for real forged internals and even more boost! Hopefully there will be no holes in the block!

chiromikey

lol! well whatever you do, don't blow it up until AFTER you break some records on nov 15th!!!

E55 RUSS

+1...there is only one solution

I think Franks beast it ready...also )))

Anyways you will see some vids hopefully sometimes in the future

E55 RUSS

But it Z06 cant be that faaast off the line on the street...by the time it will hook up awd highly mod 996 TT will fly away...

PTE

What most of you guys don't know about Kleemann , intercooler system . Is that it has at lease twice the condenser surface area to cool out going air from the Gen 4 Magunson Blower V/S the Mercedes OEM condenser under its blower. I know you got the good IHI blower One !! I now wish I have flow benched both of them, But I didn't have a MB OEM piece at the time. Then I went and ported the intake runners to the head , Blackbenzz you got to remember that you also installed a much larger heat exchanger . It all helps , you are plenty Kool so to speak . You really need to watch for how much spark lead you have under full boost. Watch this when you dyno the car. Use a data logger and select Timing & RPM. Throttle load, only. I think Rflow 306 could help advise you there. Remember Cams will help increase the trapped fuel/air volume in the Combustion chamber. in the upper rpm band. Hense , a little Higher compression ratio up there also. You have a Good foundation with the Klee setup & your mods. Cheers ___PTEngineering

ItalianStallion

Yup, the Z06 is a b*tch to launch. On a modded E55, even though it has more torque and no LSD, you can bring it out the whole consistantly with no worries on the streets. The Z06 either bogs or spins like crazy. The 1-2 shift is terrifying as well when you have more power and you have torque management removed.

rflow306

That's what the 315 Hoosiers are for

http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php...ducts_id=11817

They work perfect on the street at the track they will spit the factory diff out the back if you try and launch to hard.