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Yes. Of course we do. If the vendor's case is legit, it will come out, if the customer is right, all will be forewarned.

Jon2007E63P30

Not sure what you meant about the "trustablity" statement.

Believing they should make public comments just means you want

Somehow I do not see you accepting "We at Co. XYZ are aware of Mr. W's complain and are working with him to come to a resolution". Expecting more than that makes no sense.

bigben320e

I do not believe the intent was to cause an argument. I think some serious points are being missed, and was in fact the OP's obligation to report it.

1. This is an LONG outstanding issue with a vendor/sponsor who advertises here.
2. This guy/company could be ripping other off, and this needs to be exposed to warn others.
3. Being called out is not to argue, but to state your case of what happened in a logical, clear manner, that makes sense and not emotional. SLOJOE has done this, and in a professional manner. For the matter, he has been too patient about it.
4. The forum users and it's sponsors has some accountability correct? 110 motors credibility is shot in my eyes and many others here until this situation is resolved. Even at that, an explanation should be given. We as consumers have gotten too lax on customer service that is expected as a whole I think.

Jon2007E63P30

Wow. In almost every instance, public finger pointing turns out much worse the trying to resolve things privately.

If you end up taking it to court, you will envariably have statements made online that will hurt you later.

Jon2007E63P30

Couldn't agree with you more. SLJOE should expect the vendor to resolve the issue in a timely manner. His posting his frustration on this forum should get 110 off their oss. And yes, 110's credibility is shot.

I just am getting tired of all the people expecting the vendor to dicuss the issue with anyone but SLJOE. SLJOE is the only one who has the right to expect an answer be given him by 110. And 110 should do that, but the crux of my side discussion is my frustration with those who expect a public show. If 110 takes care of SLJOE, he will let us know.

Jon2007E63P30

FIXED

CWW

That's the thing though...they already had their chance to make it right, 8 months ago.

Then they had an additional opportunity to make it right with each new day that dawned during the 8 months that followed, while SLJOE was being patient (albeit not too smart about the whole thing) by waiting patiently for his refund. By my count, that's 248 missed chances this sponsor blew to make it right without anything becoming public.

At this point, SLJOE not only has every right to post about the situation, but the other members have every right to know about it in the hopes that other potential customers don't get ripped off as well.

LZH

Who said anything about ARGUING ????
Unless of course, the sponsor does not want "the public" to hear the details of a transaction gone wrong. But ask yourself a question, what could possibly prevent a sponsor, FOR SEVEN MONTHS, from making good on a business transaction ?????
I don't think anyone wants to hear an argument - just the FACTS. And the fact that the sponsor in question here will not post up and clear the air wreaks of what I have been trying to warn people of for quite a while. I guess this is what it takes for people to realize the TRUTH.
Now, as far as discussing it privately....Pull your head out of your azz bro. I think private discussions probably ended MONTHS AGO. Do you really expect someone to sit back quietly and get screwed out of his hard earned cash for months ??? Or better yet, allow this sort of business practice to continue and let other members here get screwed ??? I think Joe has been VERY patient and reserved in his posts - and continues to be.
But FACTS speak for themselves.

J 2OOI

I think VRP has traditionally done a good job in responding to forum threads. Their responses have helped them maintain or even gain credibility.

Keep in mind most of us on the forum have dealt with none or only a handful of the sponsors. This means that what we have to make a judgement based on the collective information we have gathered. If there is a negative post such as this, with no response from the company, it gives the perception of guilt.

In this particular case the "We at company XYZ are aware..." response probably would've worked if the situation was new, but this one wasn't. The OP started this thread after months of waiting, etc. with no luck. It was a warning to the rest of us. Remember when the Eurolites incident went down and suddenly others with issues came out of the woodwork? If they would've spoke up sooner, it might have saved some people time, money, etc.

tthoang1

One of the reasons why I enjoy MBWorld is the level of disclosure in this site. If someone has a beef with another member or sponsor, we can make it public and hopefully get it resolved in an adult and mature way. Keeping problems private does not solve problems. Case in point is the scammer who tried to sell wheels he didn't have. If we were not alerted by the victims, more people would have lost money.

bigben320e

+1, exactly why I stated the point on post #53 on this thread. I see 110 motoring is reading this thread now as well. Hopefully this will come to a nice ending.

Dragoncoach

So, you're saying SLJoe is SOL because the seller spent the money he was supposed to use to buy SLJoes parts on something else and Joe should wait over a year to get his parts or his money?! You have the patience of a Saint!

bigben320e

Very good point, some have the rep of ripping people off and then poof! All are SOL. In the spirit of not saying 110 or others intent is this, but it happens. An early alert will save many, and I have come to really enjoy MBWorld because of that, and the integrity, knowledge, and advice of many here. If dishonesty runs rampant, then MBWorld goes down with the ship, people will stop coming to the site.

LZH

SLJOE - Did the check clear ??

jrcart

God, I am glad you some of you warned me about these guys (110 Motoring) a couple months ago when I was going to order that CF steering wheel they were pimpin.

It seems like this stuff keeps happening with this vendor, is the all mighty dollar all it takes for a (obviously bad) sponsor/vendor to continue to advertise on these boards? Admin can put us on probations or even suspend or terminate our memberships for inappropriate behavior, so how can a company that is ****ing people left and right able to continue on with business as usual?

Mark_K

You have to be kidding me.
There is power in numbers and forums like this provide that power.
Arrogant? Do you even know what the word means?

JAYCL600

ive been around since the beginning of MBworld so Ive seen quite a bit, there seems to be quite an increase in the frequency of vendors dropping the ball lately, its sad for all involved. I am myself a sponsor on 3 other forums for my own business, as well I own an automobile based forum in which I have sponsors support the site. Its important that customers continue to post there experiences since this is what its all about.

jrcart

All forums are about people helping people with similar hobbies and interests, it does not matter if its a car forum or my moms gardening forum. If people can't speak up about a bad experience with a product or vendor why even bother having a forum at all???

I am not saying it is ok to slander a person or company without justification, but if you have evidence of bad products, poor service or even fraud you need let others know of your experience. On the same note you need to let others know about good products and great service you recieve from reputible companys. So to the few of you that stated this is not the place to air out thier differences, you are way wrong! THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO DO IT!

ChicagoX

Agreed.

1985mb

+1

neveo

my euro elites tune has also been very good to me. plus 1 on the knock

LZH

Seems SLJOE got his check and it cleared:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...wpost&t=249041

MB_Forever

I'm glad they did the right thing

jofrday

Parts Ordered
After reading all these posts I was wondering what parts you ordered?

miladjuckel

lol lol,