Mercedes to Cut Petroleum Out of Lineup by 2015
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also i believe the years we have been told are around 50-70 years till it runs out.
I for one am not looking forward to it !
and as others have stated to many people who hold alt of power/influence in our world will make sure oil is still the number one power provider, we are talking $$$ at global levels here
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The TQ is available from 1rpm up until the electic motor's redline, with a flat torque curve. The thing that SHOULD happen is a small gas/diesel motor powering a generator to drive small but powerful electric traction motors are two or all four wheels. Like a tiny locomotive. Oh and for those that think electric/hybrids aren't fast cars, look up the Tesla roadster. Currently the technology is still very young for automobiles, and they are having "issues" figuring out the gearing/transmission set-up, and top speeds aren't quite what we would be used to. Give the technology time to develop.
I still doubt MB will be completely petroleum free by 2015.
I still doubt MB will be completely petroleum free by 2015.
By 2015? We can not have the electrical grid in place by then unless we start building nuke plants as fast as we can. I think McCain wants to start >100, which if fine by me.
As for performance, 500HP at the wheels (125 per wheel) is no problem with electric vehicles, and as you said, you get 100% torque at 0RPM. The torque is also much more than you would get from a gas powered engine. The problem is energy storage and surge power. Surge power will get solved sooner. Energy storage is the big problem.
McCain said the US Gov't should pay someone $300M for battery technology that matches petrolium. HAHAHAHAHA. If someone can do that, they can expect to beat Bill Gates at >$40B.
The best examples are at drag strips. Electrics are not allowed to compete against petrolium because they are just so damn fast. IF all you need to do is go 1/4 mile, then the energy problem is solved. Imagine a dragster with big slicks on all 4 wheels.
Give me a one day 300mile highway range and 200mile "AMG" range with a 75-100mile/hr charge rate and I would probably buy.
AMG could provide cars with upgraded surge power capacity, improved regeneration, improved charge time, improved battery packs, and of course better handling.
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Last i checked i could no longer drill a hole in my back yard and get oil
also i believe the years we have been told are around 50-70 years till it runs out.
I for one am not looking forward to it !
and as others have stated to many people who hold alt of power/influence in our world will make sure oil is still the number one power provider, we are talking $$$ at global levels here
also i believe the years we have been told are around 50-70 years till it runs out.
I for one am not looking forward to it !
and as others have stated to many people who hold alt of power/influence in our world will make sure oil is still the number one power provider, we are talking $$$ at global levels here
Sure we've picked all of the low-hanging fruit, all of the easy to get at oil is all but gone. We've barely scratched the surface of offshore drilling.
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See yeah
PS: NO WAY will petro be gone by 2015. I'll bet the house on it. Wait a minute, I already have
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The oil companies used to do press releases on new discoveries and give very public monthly updates on their proven reserves, but they have really toned that down lately. I truly believe they are trying to be hush-hush to avoid dropping the price. Pretty shady.
Consumers will run out of money to buy oil before we actually run out of oil, the way they are running this silly shell game lately.
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I think that F700 concept crap looks absolutely disgusting....seriously, it looks like absolute crap...hope that's not what future mercedes looks like...
I've heard that Merc was working on some diesel hybrids, that should be interesting and pretty good until they find some alternate energy, or maybe we'll just keep sticking to oil. IMO, electric cars are probably the future, yeah you still need some oil, but electricity can be obtained from many sources
okay, a lot of people praise the prius, and a lot give it crap. i don't like the car, it's mpgs are pretty good, but the car is way overhyped, it's not going to save the earth. in its defense though, people always compare it to the smart and the polo diesel...come on you can't be serious? the smart is like 1/2 or 1/3 of a prius, the polo again, it's like 2 class sizes away from the prius...compare it to like a corolla or something,
what do u guys think of that new fisker electric/hybrid car coming out? the one that looks like a maserati and aston put together
I've heard that Merc was working on some diesel hybrids, that should be interesting and pretty good until they find some alternate energy, or maybe we'll just keep sticking to oil. IMO, electric cars are probably the future, yeah you still need some oil, but electricity can be obtained from many sources
okay, a lot of people praise the prius, and a lot give it crap. i don't like the car, it's mpgs are pretty good, but the car is way overhyped, it's not going to save the earth. in its defense though, people always compare it to the smart and the polo diesel...come on you can't be serious? the smart is like 1/2 or 1/3 of a prius, the polo again, it's like 2 class sizes away from the prius...compare it to like a corolla or something,
what do u guys think of that new fisker electric/hybrid car coming out? the one that looks like a maserati and aston put together
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I'll see if I can find a link to the story, the sound they played on the radio was pretty cool.
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In other news, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon
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Nonsense.
Biofuel isn't going anywhere, I'd be suprised if it doesn't go away. The skyrocketing price of food will see to that.
Electric cars? Technology isn't anywhere near ready yet. Range is too short for anything but inner city driving. Power grids aren't going to be able to handle them.
Solar? Ha ha ha... You guys in the NW better like walking.
Fuel cell? Haven't heard that failure of a technology mentioned in a while. I think the last time I heard it was in the same sentance as betamax.
Biofuel isn't going anywhere, I'd be suprised if it doesn't go away. The skyrocketing price of food will see to that.
Electric cars? Technology isn't anywhere near ready yet. Range is too short for anything but inner city driving. Power grids aren't going to be able to handle them.
Solar? Ha ha ha... You guys in the NW better like walking.
Fuel cell? Haven't heard that failure of a technology mentioned in a while. I think the last time I heard it was in the same sentance as betamax.
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Agreed
I really don't care what type of fuel will propel the future AMG, as long as the principals remain. As long as there is a dominating amount of acceleration combined with refined luxury and sportiness, it wont really matter what type of technology is under the hood. I do wonder though if they'll still hand build and sign a plaque for an electric/fuel cell/whatever motor