Coalman

Got a good look at the new GT-R on the road today. It may be incredibly fast, but it's also incredibly ugly.

IndiumGreyE63

haha...too funny... I agree.

chiphomme

How fast is a GTR anyway?
I read one Car an Driver article saying does 0-60 in 3.3, 0-100 in 7.8 and the 1/4 mile in 11.5 @124.

http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_g...on+id-238.html


Then a few months later they come up with a GTR comparison where it does 0-60 in 4.1, 0-100 in 10.2, and the 1/4mile in 12.1@115


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test



What gives? Are these cars that inconsistent? Or was the original a Japanese spec'd version and the later a US model?
Sorry but if the most recent numbers are correct the car isn't that special.

W211 BEAST

It might not be anything special in general, but I think its pretty special for its price.

gonzjed

I think the initial numbers posted were from JDM spec car and the latter numbers are detuned USDM spec car. The GTR's just showed up here on Hawaii and are still at the docks, so soon enough I may run into one.

Cylinder Head

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They said the car was pretty beat up, a Nissan tester with 4,000 very unkind miles on it. The transmission was popping and whizzing by the time they were done with it. In a footnote in the article they said they tested a 3rd GTR that replicated the original numbers.

chiphomme

Thanks for taking the time of reading it more closely than me.
Yeah there was a second comparison, in which an M3 was picked as superior, where the numbers lined up better. Although at the top end the 911 Turbo walked away.


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test

Timeless

Pretty much sums it up for me too. And I do like Nissan as a company.

von32897

Imagine paying $20k over sticker for that thing. That's what their fetching for here. They even had an auction at the local dealership. Not worth it IMO. Fast car-but Fuggly.

CWW

That car is utterly hideous.

I can't imagine who would buy that nasty-looking thing.

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I would, but I also own a "butt-ugly" M5 as well. A car that iconic can afford to be ugly. I personally loved it at the auto show. Fat and mean.

CWW

I don't think the M5 is butt-ugly. It's grown on me a lot over time, to the point where now, especially with tint, I think it looks great.

That hideous new 7-series is a completely different story though. I don't think I'll ever get used to that monstrosity. Ditto with this GT-R. It's just plain ugly.

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We'll see how close to the leaked pics the new 7 really is. But if it is that fugly, then Merc will just retain their position on the top of that niche. The new turbo'd V8 is going to give BMW some major cojones in the performance category though.

Bones

Those are not leaked pics, they are the real deal. I have seen pics( not those touched bmw press released photos) on a different forum of the new 7 in a silver/grey color at a presentation of some sort . I think it is nicely done, the rear lights could be cleaner.

mosesgolf

Road and Track got 12.6 in the quarter mile for the GTR in their latest issue. It got SPANKED by the Z06, 911GT2 and Viper ACS. It was the fastest around the track but, that's not what most people buy these kinds of cars for. How'd they go from high 11's to mid/upper 12's?

GTR-great track car, fast but not FAST -more hype than anything and looks borderline rice.

jmf003

The August issue of Car and Driver ran the same four cars and got the same 1/4 mile time for the GTR: 12.6 seconds. (Report is here: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/coupes/chevy_corvette_z06_vs_dodge_viper_srt10_acr_nissan _gt_r_porsche_911_gt2_comparison_test/(page)/1)

The GTR was also third slowest around the Buttonwillow track, narrowly edging the Z06 (by 0.6 seconds) while getting toasted by the Viper ACR (by 5.4 seconds).

Surprisingly C&D didn't elaborate as to why this GTR was substantially slower than previously tested ones.

CWW

I am very excited about that motor also. BMW has been going down this route of deploying those finnicky high reving super-small displacement V12s (and later V10s) in their top of the line models since the late 80s, and I have thought all along it's the wrong way to go.

More cylinders only makes sense when the engine is going to have the displacement to back it up, otherwise you wind up with questionable performance increases and unquestionably more things to go wrong. I mean, really, what's the point in having a V12 with a <5L displacement, like 80's/90's BMWs and Jags? You can claim a decent hp figure, but torque is in the toilet and it makes for a car that may be great on the highway but sucks around town. I remember driving an E38 750iL back when they were the big deal, and it felt about the same as my grandmother's S420 in every condition except for WOT.

Anyway, I am happy to see BMW finally coming around.

CWW

This is the real deal, unfortunately...

Officially unveiled on July 7th.



I don't think I'll ever get used to that rear-end, which they appear to have transplanted straight off the new G35 sedan. It's just plain ugly, and very japanese looking.

EastCoastAMG

Keep in mind the launch control on this car. The numbers have actually been consistent when launch control IS NOT USED. The car goes from a 3.4 0-60mph to a 4.2. Obviously, a drastic difference. So, do you want to hammer the hell out of the thing (and engage launch control) every light - to - light race or do you just want to put your right foot down and get the same result everytime? I prefer the AMG way. GT-R is nice though, especially for sticker.

I can't wait to see one of these on the highway, the 55's and 63's should do just fine when alreay at speed (since the launch settings won't help).

BoBcanada

Btw the funny thing is, is that it seems that they made a big wow factor about it... and how fast is it with launch control, but without it its just a 12 second car... which is not that fast, and it seems Nissan now wanna play the BMW LC game... I read in GTR forums that now nissan refuses to aknowledge that there is LC... and that if you Switch off Traction control it might even Void the warranty on it?!?! If that makes sense. There also few guy who already went through the tranny on a brand new cars... So GTR is a very fragile car.

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Even without LC, it's still just as fast as anything here.

jmf003

I'm not following you, CH. If by "here" you mean cars driven by forum members, then quite a few folks have 1/4 mile times that are well south of 12.6 seconds. But you know that so you must mean something else.

obsidian05e55

"If you have the means, i highly recommend picking one up. Its so choice!"

zxlr88

While I am not going to buy a GT-R, I think it will be a landmark vehicle for the money. The price of admission will allow a lot of people to get into an amazing car for not a lot of money. With a mod or 2, you will be entering well past supercar territory. Face it guys, the thing handles like it is on rails and generally is a world-beater. The only possible bad about it is the looks. If you can get past that, it will be a formidable friend or foe. I am not trying to say that a Viper ACR can't beat it. I am just saying I would love to have the reliability of Nissan in a Viper.

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One on the right, that's what I'm going for. Love that Titanium Silver.