Aborted Dyno due to Lean Condition
07-30-2008, 10:11 PM
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To me thats a red flag ... Any tuner that puts in a motor for you and then wont help with the tune ... HORRIBLE. Does it make sense that they don't want the blower on it ... yes. I would have just said don't put on the blower. No I won't sell it to you if you plan on throwing that blower on it.
And I do not see how it will ever be covered by a warranty, given they will say the tuning side did it. DON"T AMGSC. You did this before, that is what i was talking about (being a pioneer). Decide if you want tried and true or if you wanna go wild, but understand the difference.
07-31-2008, 12:47 AM
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Robert, do you truly know what you are getting??
Or are we starting the whole new chapter?
Current M113 can be bored and stroked to 6.2L. That is all there is.
7.0L is a an old 4-valve V12, which will require major rewiring to work and no way will even pass smog.
If it is a normally aspirated 6.2L, it will have maybe 400RWHP and 410-420RWHTQ, less what you have right now. Hardly a progress.
What is your goal?
Right now, with 440RWHP car is a handfull. It needs all of its stock rubber bushing upgraded to be driveable at 7/10s. Forget about 10/10s - it will kill you.
Get the car reliable with lower CR pistons and than invest in yourself. Go to driving schools and learn how to truly drive. More HP does not equal lower lap times.
Good Luck!
Or are we starting the whole new chapter?
Current M113 can be bored and stroked to 6.2L. That is all there is.
7.0L is a an old 4-valve V12, which will require major rewiring to work and no way will even pass smog.
If it is a normally aspirated 6.2L, it will have maybe 400RWHP and 410-420RWHTQ, less what you have right now. Hardly a progress.
What is your goal?
Right now, with 440RWHP car is a handfull. It needs all of its stock rubber bushing upgraded to be driveable at 7/10s. Forget about 10/10s - it will kill you.
Get the car reliable with lower CR pistons and than invest in yourself. Go to driving schools and learn how to truly drive. More HP does not equal lower lap times.
Good Luck!
07-31-2008, 02:41 AM
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The last thing I want is another 3-4 weeks of downtime is to find out I've got major engine damage and the original estimate of under $8K turns out to be $15-20K with no real upgrade over my stock motor.
A new engine swap may end up costing the same but I'll be up and running again quickly while I take my time to repair and sell the damaged goods. I've heard that once your engine is rebuilt, it will never be the same again, much like my knees after major surgeries years back.
Of course I'm still contemplating saving my money and getting a used 2005 SL65 and just patching up this little C for my teenage son who will be driving soon. Come to think of it. this model car is starting to look TOO young for me now. I love the twistys so I can't see my myself in a big-bodied benz yet.
Reflecting upon these last 2 years, I feel like I've have been desparately trying to re-live my own teenage years when I had such as blast with my souped-up, German made, Blacked-Out TT Mercury Capri.
I may just be experiencing some early mid-life crisis?
I'm going to think things over so I'm staying off the boards for while and wait for any other collaborating or divergent advice anyone may have for me.. if you were in my shoes.
A new engine swap may end up costing the same but I'll be up and running again quickly while I take my time to repair and sell the damaged goods. I've heard that once your engine is rebuilt, it will never be the same again, much like my knees after major surgeries years back.
Of course I'm still contemplating saving my money and getting a used 2005 SL65 and just patching up this little C for my teenage son who will be driving soon. Come to think of it. this model car is starting to look TOO young for me now. I love the twistys so I can't see my myself in a big-bodied benz yet.
Reflecting upon these last 2 years, I feel like I've have been desparately trying to re-live my own teenage years when I had such as blast with my souped-up, German made, Blacked-Out TT Mercury Capri.
I may just be experiencing some early mid-life crisis?I'm going to think things over so I'm staying off the boards for while and wait for any other collaborating or divergent advice anyone may have for me.. if you were in my shoes.
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07-31-2008, 02:55 AM
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Robert, do you truly know what you are getting??
Or are we starting the whole new chapter?
Current M113 can be bored and stroked to 6.2L. That is all there is.
7.0L is a an old 4-valve V12, which will require major rewiring to work and no way will even pass smog.
If it is a normally aspirated 6.2L, it will have maybe 400RWHP and 410-420RWHTQ, less what you have right now. Hardly a progress.
What is your goal?
Right now, with 440RWHP car is a handfull. It needs all of its stock rubber bushing upgraded to be driveable at 7/10s. Forget about 10/10s - it will kill you.
Get the car reliable with lower CR pistons and than invest in yourself. Go to driving schools and learn how to truly drive. More HP does not equal lower lap times.
Good Luck!
Or are we starting the whole new chapter?
Current M113 can be bored and stroked to 6.2L. That is all there is.
7.0L is a an old 4-valve V12, which will require major rewiring to work and no way will even pass smog.
If it is a normally aspirated 6.2L, it will have maybe 400RWHP and 410-420RWHTQ, less what you have right now. Hardly a progress.
What is your goal?
Right now, with 440RWHP car is a handfull. It needs all of its stock rubber bushing upgraded to be driveable at 7/10s. Forget about 10/10s - it will kill you.
Get the car reliable with lower CR pistons and than invest in yourself. Go to driving schools and learn how to truly drive. More HP does not equal lower lap times.
Good Luck!
I've beened by burned by HPS and others so often I don't know who to trust anymore.
07-31-2008, 12:26 PM
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If this independent dyno I'm getting in the next few days in fact proves that JBA's dyno equipment was faulty and AFR was truly as my siggy indicates, then I will TRULY eat CROW and will bow down to you for ever doubting your capabilties! I've beened by burned by HPS and others so often I don't know who to trust anymore.
10-04-2008, 02:39 PM
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If this independent dyno I'm getting in the next few days in fact proves that JBA's dyno equipment was faulty and AFR was truly as my siggy indicates, then I will TRULY eat CROW and will bow down to you for ever doubting your capabilties! I've beened by burned by HPS and others so often I don't know who to trust anymore.
I've beened by burned by HPS and others so often I don't know who to trust anymore.
10-04-2008, 08:38 PM
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Never had it dyno'd since the risk of a blown motor is too great. Somehow my CEL has never been corrected though but there is nothing he can do since the Kleemann headers requires Kleemann ECU I guess.
10-08-2008, 12:28 AM
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What gets me is why did VRP Tuning work on your car when the motor / piston was already ruined? If I were you I would ask for some type of discount or your money back. If they dont take them to court. You are the customer and in my mind the customer is always right.
10-08-2008, 12:31 AM
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10-08-2008, 01:02 AM
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AMGSC’s engine was damaged long before he contacted VRP. In fact, before they even commenced operations in Costa Mesa.
Perhaps you missed AMGSC’s ill fated HPS supercharger thread…https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/130280-need-advice-adding-more-power-hps-sc.html .
10-08-2008, 01:03 AM
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Hold up.
AMGSC’s engine was damaged long before he contacted VRP. In fact, before they even commenced operations in Costa Mesa.
Perhaps you missed AMGSC’s ill fated HPS supercharger thread…https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130280 .
AMGSC’s engine was damaged long before he contacted VRP. In fact, before they even commenced operations in Costa Mesa.
Perhaps you missed AMGSC’s ill fated HPS supercharger thread…https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130280 .
10-08-2008, 01:14 AM
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Vadim @ VRP. I am considering you guys for some work on my ML55. But read how you trashed AMGSC vehicle. My concern is bring my SUV to you and experiance the same problems like AMGSC did. (CEL, blown piston/low compression) My question for you, did you fix his problem? Maybe I need to go to Grand Prix on Newport BLvd and 17 street.
BTW, if you are considering Grand Prix, then VRP is likely not for you. You may want to roll down Harbor for that.
10-08-2008, 10:40 AM
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Vadim @ VRP. I am considering you guys for some work on my ML55. But read how you trashed AMGSC vehicle. My concern is bring my SUV to you and experiance the same problems like AMGSC did. (CEL, blown piston/low compression) My question for you, did you fix his problem? Maybe I need to go to Grand Prix on Newport BLvd and 17 street.
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Whatever happened with this series of issues?
Did he get the brabus stroker? Or did he rebuild the 5.5liter with l/c pistons?
Or did he punt and get a new car????
Did he get the brabus stroker? Or did he rebuild the 5.5liter with l/c pistons?
Or did he punt and get a new car????
