Tire gurus, suggestions?
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Tire gurus, suggestions?
I'm looking to get a set of tires for some 19" wheels that I bought for my C63, but having a little trouble deciding. I initially wanted to mount some r-compounds as I'll probably only put around 6-7,000 mi/yr, but thinking in reality this may be useless on the street? I want to hookup off the line, but I'm assuming if not heated properly then results will be no better than typical performance tires?
The tires I'm considering are basically any r-compound available in 265/19, or on the other end of the spectrum, Toyo T1Rs as I've had good experience with them at a very attractive price. I would rate my criteria as followed:
1) Grip/Hookup
2) Noise
3) Treadwear
4) Price
Any ideas? I havn't really considred the PS2s because I figured at that price I would rather step up to Sport Cups, or for half the price go with the T1Rs.
The tires I'm considering are basically any r-compound available in 265/19, or on the other end of the spectrum, Toyo T1Rs as I've had good experience with them at a very attractive price. I would rate my criteria as followed:
1) Grip/Hookup
2) Noise
3) Treadwear
4) Price
Any ideas? I havn't really considred the PS2s because I figured at that price I would rather step up to Sport Cups, or for half the price go with the T1Rs.
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I'm looking to get a set of tires for some 19" wheels that I bought for my C63, but having a little trouble deciding. I initially wanted to mount some r-compounds as I'll probably only put around 6-7,000 mi/yr, but thinking in reality this may be useless on the street? I want to hookup off the line, but I'm assuming if not heated properly then results will be no better than typical performance tires?
The tires I'm considering are basically any r-compound available in 265/19, or on the other end of the spectrum, Toyo T1Rs as I've had good experience with them at a very attractive price. I would rate my criteria as followed:
1) Grip/Hookup
2) Noise
3) Treadwear
4) Price
Any ideas? I havn't really considred the PS2s because I figured at that price I would rather step up to Sport Cups, or for half the price go with the T1Rs.
The tires I'm considering are basically any r-compound available in 265/19, or on the other end of the spectrum, Toyo T1Rs as I've had good experience with them at a very attractive price. I would rate my criteria as followed:
1) Grip/Hookup
2) Noise
3) Treadwear
4) Price
Any ideas? I havn't really considred the PS2s because I figured at that price I would rather step up to Sport Cups, or for half the price go with the T1Rs.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/254709-nexan-falken-nankang-marangoni-vredestein-tires.html
Also go to the search function and type in PS2 in you will find many tire battle links.
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eather the nitto 555r 2 road race tire i think is a r compound or the nitto nt01's.
i got 19's and i got 275/30/19s rear and 245/35/19 front and they are general exclaims and they have really good grip but they are noisey so im going to go with the regualr nitto 555's.
for a performace tire they are quiet and they ride good.
i got 19's and i got 275/30/19s rear and 245/35/19 front and they are general exclaims and they have really good grip but they are noisey so im going to go with the regualr nitto 555's.
for a performace tire they are quiet and they ride good.
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For 19" rims I strongly suggest the bridgestone REO1Rs they are the best tire I ever used.
For 20" rims I would go with the toyo T1Rs only cuzz the REO1r dont come in 20s
the REO1rs are way better that the T1Rs in my comparison.
For 20" rims I would go with the toyo T1Rs only cuzz the REO1r dont come in 20s
the REO1rs are way better that the T1Rs in my comparison.
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not a lot of choices actually
if you want 265 and 19 ... you have a very limited selection. If you got to 275 then you will have a lot more.
Michelin Pilot Sport Cups is what you are looking for. They are great in the rain and are a R compound. The regular PS2s are NOT a R-compound.
Michelin Pilot Sport Cups is what you are looking for. They are great in the rain and are a R compound. The regular PS2s are NOT a R-compound.
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I have used PS2's, conti sports, T1r's, nitto 555's, bfg drag radials, pirelli's, goodyear, and bridgestones are my favorite. good luck on your descion.
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I have used almost everything under the sun on at least one of my cars at one time or another.
My favorites over the years have been the Yokohama Advans and the Toyo T1R's which are a bargain. I last used the Advans on my GT3 and modded Evo with great grip in all respects and minimal nose combined with good wear patterns. I have T1R's on E55 and had them on several Dinan BMW's as it was a recommended fitments. They are not quite as aggressive as the Yoks but were not too far behind in terms of performance. Not to mention the T1R was available in the size I needed.
I am no PS2 fan and was jumping for joy when I took them off the GT3 and threw them in the trash. I had trouble with noise, wear, and strait line grip. All of which were greatly improved with the Advans.
Good luck!
My favorites over the years have been the Yokohama Advans and the Toyo T1R's which are a bargain. I last used the Advans on my GT3 and modded Evo with great grip in all respects and minimal nose combined with good wear patterns. I have T1R's on E55 and had them on several Dinan BMW's as it was a recommended fitments. They are not quite as aggressive as the Yoks but were not too far behind in terms of performance. Not to mention the T1R was available in the size I needed.
I am no PS2 fan and was jumping for joy when I took them off the GT3 and threw them in the trash. I had trouble with noise, wear, and strait line grip. All of which were greatly improved with the Advans.
Good luck!
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+1 - the bridgestone RE01Rs are amazing tires. best tire i have ever used as well.
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Thanks for the replies, and sorry to start another tire topic but was directing my question more specifically toward r-compounds. But anyhow, the Bridgestone RE-01Rs look very appealing as well, my only problem is the wheels I have are 8 x 19 and 9 x 19. It looks like I could fit a 245 front and 275 rear on these wheels, but would this look funny at all? Will the sidewall look like it's buldging out from the rim? I'm assuming 235 and 265 are the ideal sizes for these rims? It sure is limiting though in tire choices.
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want to hook up off the line drop down to 18's max.or serious hook up get some 17's and install them at the track.
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i just grabbed some new shoes from tire rack...went with the bridgestones potenza REO50A pole positions 275/30/19 and 245/35/19
1200 with shipping...figured this was the best option besides the ps2's which i just honestly feel are overpriced no matter how good they are and the mere fact that i'm on 1 and 3 settings with my elm just tells me i'm going to be replacing tires quite often
any feedback others having experience with these tires would be appreciated
1200 with shipping...figured this was the best option besides the ps2's which i just honestly feel are overpriced no matter how good they are and the mere fact that i'm on 1 and 3 settings with my elm just tells me i'm going to be replacing tires quite often
any feedback others having experience with these tires would be appreciated
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i just grabbed some new shoes from tire rack...went with the bridgestones potenza REO50A pole positions 275/30/19 and 245/35/19
1200 with shipping...figured this was the best option besides the ps2's which i just honestly feel are overpriced no matter how good they are and the mere fact that i'm on 1 and 3 settings with my elm just tells me i'm going to be replacing tires quite often
any feedback others having experience with these tires would be appreciated
1200 with shipping...figured this was the best option besides the ps2's which i just honestly feel are overpriced no matter how good they are and the mere fact that i'm on 1 and 3 settings with my elm just tells me i'm going to be replacing tires quite often
any feedback others having experience with these tires would be appreciated
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Well if the Bridgestone RE01Rs were available in 265/19 and 235/19 I would go with those, but I think the 275s and 245s would be too large for these wheels even though it's barely within specs.
Anyhow, I'll probably end up going with the Toyo T1Rs since they have the sizes I need, however I will ask one last question before I make a final decision. Realisticly, how much time would a set of R compounds shave off the 1/4mi compared to regular high performance street tires? A few 1/10ths, 1/2 sec? I remember a clip shown on here of a stock E55 running drag radials (big difference I know) vs a heavily modified E55 trapping 120+ on stock tires, and the stock E55 lept out ahead for the majority of the 1/4mi. Made me rethink tires anyhow
But I don't want to go all out with drag radials, but r compounds perhaps.
Anyhow, I'll probably end up going with the Toyo T1Rs since they have the sizes I need, however I will ask one last question before I make a final decision. Realisticly, how much time would a set of R compounds shave off the 1/4mi compared to regular high performance street tires? A few 1/10ths, 1/2 sec? I remember a clip shown on here of a stock E55 running drag radials (big difference I know) vs a heavily modified E55 trapping 120+ on stock tires, and the stock E55 lept out ahead for the majority of the 1/4mi. Made me rethink tires anyhow
But I don't want to go all out with drag radials, but r compounds perhaps.
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Don't think it helps much ... but I'm not a good reference I think. Too much torque for the weight. I just burn thru the R-compounds as easily as the High performance summer tires.
Tried michelin Pilot Sport cups (80 Treadware) and now on the R1s (40 treadware) I still smoke them like crazy.
I have to try Drag radials next.
Tried michelin Pilot Sport cups (80 Treadware) and now on the R1s (40 treadware) I still smoke them like crazy.
I have to try Drag radials next.
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Ah, that's good to know as I don't want to throw away $$$.
But this was the video I was referring to with regards to drag radials. But I take it I wouldn't see anything like this with r compounds haha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edr5SDUP_v0&NR=1
But this was the video I was referring to with regards to drag radials. But I take it I wouldn't see anything like this with r compounds haha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edr5SDUP_v0&NR=1
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Realisticly, how much time would a set of R compounds shave off the 1/4mi compared to regular high performance street tires? A few 1/10ths, 1/2 sec? I remember a clip shown on here of a stock E55 running drag radials (big difference I know) vs a heavily modified E55 trapping 120+ on stock tires, and the stock E55 lept out ahead for the majority of the 1/4mi. Made me rethink tires anyhow But I don't want to go all out with drag radials, but r compounds perhaps.
But I don't want to go all out with drag radials, but r compounds perhaps.https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...110&highlight=
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Don't think it helps much ... but I'm not a good reference I think. Too much torque for the weight. I just burn thru the R-compounds as easily as the High performance summer tires.
Tried michelin Pilot Sport cups (80 Treadware) and now on the R1s (40 treadware) I still smoke them like crazy.
I have to try Drag radials next.
Tried michelin Pilot Sport cups (80 Treadware) and now on the R1s (40 treadware) I still smoke them like crazy.
I have to try Drag radials next.
See yeah
PS: For street and mild track I too have and LOVE the Bridgstone 050 PP's. One amazing tire
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I know they are for handling ... my car handles great in the mountains ...
I was answer a question as to if the were better than high performance for a launch.
I would of assumed that with a much sticker treadware the would help a bit. (it isn't difficult to warm the tires up before launching)
I was answer a question as to if the were better than high performance for a launch.
I would of assumed that with a much sticker treadware the would help a bit. (it isn't difficult to warm the tires up before launching)
