s4play

If you guys were buying a "pre-owned" car does it makes sense to get a E63 vs. a E55 only because the maintenance is less on a non-supercharged car. I would think the the N/A cars cost less to maintain - is that true?

I've been tossing around a few 4-door automatic sedans and the two cars I keep coming back to are the Lexus IS-F and the E55/E63 series of cars.

Used IS-F values seem to be the in low $50k range, how are E63's in comparison?

Is there any good examples for sale on the boards here that you guys can direct me to?

Prefer a white or dark silver/gunmetal colored car but otherwise not picky on options. Low miles and mild mods are ideal


rick

li-m5

here are some !!

http://www.cars.com/go/search/search...e&pageNumber=0

MB_Forever

You'll get much more excitement driving the E55/E63 vs the IS-F. The E63 is a great car, and you should be able to find a good one for about $60k. The E55 is also an awesome car, but most are out of warranty. Obviously, the E63 has not been proven as reliable as the E55 yet because it's only been out for 2 years vs 6 years for the E55, but so far things are looking very good. I had mine for about a year and a half now, and have put it through numerous track sessions (both drag and twisties), and the car has not complained or given me any problems yet. The mechanical maintenance on both cars have not really been too bad at all. The danger is in the gadgets and electronics. For example, I've read of some members' navigation consoles going dead and the dealer having to replace the whole unit instead of fixing it $$$$. Others (CLS63) experienced the whole dashboard dying, which the dealer also had to replace (lots of $$$$). These incidents of course are not wide spread, but may happen and may come up.
In the end, you'll be happy with either car, you just can't go wrong with W211 AMG . However, which ever you decide on getting, please make sure you invest in an extended warranty (preferably one that your local dealer deals with all the time).

Cylinder Head

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Were the repairs for the dashboard/nav not covered under warranty?

Vic55

Forget leasing a used car, the residuals are softer than a down pillow with 700 thread count covers. As for the E63 values, take a look at auction pricing. These are not prices to the public but it gives you perspective. Also having owned a very fast E55 and most recently driven an IS-F for a day, Id say that without doubt the 55 is faster but the IS-F is the better handler IMO. It comes down to what you want: a stop light racer than lights up the strip and has excellent comfort or a pretty good handling Japanese compact 4 door.

2007 E63 Sales:

08/07/08 NEVADA Lease $56,500 22,709 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
08/07/08 GTR PHNX Lease $56,500 12,304 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
08/05/08 DFW Lease $56,500 31,908 Avg ARC WHT 8G A No
07/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $60,500 12,984 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
07/30/08 NADE Regular $54,000 24,889 Below BLACK 8G Yes
07/08/08 DFW Lease $59,500 16,974 Above IRI SIL 8G A Yes

2008 E63 Sales

04/10/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $69,750 12,129 Avg ARC WHT 8G A No
06/12/08 MANHEIM Regular $65,000 11,048 Avg ARC WHT 8G A No
06/19/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $72,500 5,904 Avg SILVER 8G A No
06/25/08 CADE Regular $62,800 2,300 Avg GRAY NON A No
07/08/08 LAUD/MIA Regular $66,500 19,648 Avg Black 8CY A No
07/10/08 MANHEIM Regular $75,000 6,300 Avg BLACK 8G A No
08/05/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $67,500 5,906 Avg SLIVER 8G A No

and limited sample IS-F's

07/10/08 MANHEIM Regular $53,500 3,511 Avg BLACK 8G A No
07/17/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $51,000 2,051 Avg BLACK 8G A No
08/08/08 MANHEIM Regular $51,600 3,317 Avg BLACK 8G A No

MB_Forever

Both were covered under warranty. The Nav car was a 2004 E55 and the dashboard incident was in a 2008 CLS63 I think. But anyways, yeah both were covered under warranty, but without warranty, they're almost $3k a piece. So one visit to the dealer can cost more than what someone would save on buying warranty. That's why I always stress warranty on these high-end cars.

jangy

But why not lease a new one? Your monthy expense is about the same and you ride in a new car, no? My dealer has always been pretty aggressive with getting me into a new car vs a used one. This is probably the first lease I have ever kept (if I do) because a new one is so cheap in comparison.

Thericker

Vic, have you been listening to Dennis Miller on the radio again lol...Nice analogy

Vic55

I said forget leasing a USED car... you are preaching to the choir when it comes to leasing new units.