Update: MHP ECU/TCU Tuning (Throttle Blipping, etc, DONE!)
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This has got to be one of the most brutal groups I have ever seen on any automotive forum. Andy sounds a little harsh and abrasive at times, but it sounds like he knows his stuff. He then goes out to back up his words at the drag strip and runs a 12.19 with a bone stock, other than filters and ECU C63. To me that looks impressive, I had my stock CLK cabrio at the track last weekend (bone stock, 875 miles) and the best I could manage was a 12.92 and I was getting a better 60ft (1.82) than Andy was able to attain. I would gather that if he could lay down some 1.8's vs. his 1.95 that it would translate to at least .25 sec. over the 1/4.
Please don't jump on my case, I'm not an expert at any of this performance or racing stuff, nor am I trying to act like one, I'm just speaking from what I have experienced with my car(s) at the track.
BTW, does anyone know what Andy's car weighs in at vs. my CLK 63 cabrio? is a 12.92 even a decent time or should I be ashamed of it? I actually thought I would have been able to lay down some 12.50's.
Please don't jump on my case, I'm not an expert at any of this performance or racing stuff, nor am I trying to act like one, I'm just speaking from what I have experienced with my car(s) at the track.
BTW, does anyone know what Andy's car weighs in at vs. my CLK 63 cabrio? is a 12.92 even a decent time or should I be ashamed of it? I actually thought I would have been able to lay down some 12.50's.
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If you say they're archaic, that means you must be doing something better, right? Please elucidate on their method vs. yours, if you will.
Or are you not really able to look at their tunes at all....which is what I suspect.
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You commented on how archaic their tunes were. I'm simply looking for more clarity from your statement.
If you say they're archaic, that means you must be doing something better, right? Please elucidate on their method vs. yours, if you will.
Or are you not really able to look at their tunes at all....which is what I suspect.
If you say they're archaic, that means you must be doing something better, right? Please elucidate on their method vs. yours, if you will.
Or are you not really able to look at their tunes at all....which is what I suspect.
As far as archaic you either flash through the obdII port or you de-solder the chip which gives you access to all map data.
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You commented on how archaic their tunes were. I'm simply looking for more clarity from your statement.
If you say they're archaic, that means you must be doing something better, right? Please elucidate on their method vs. yours, if you will.
Or are you not really able to look at their tunes at all....which is what I suspect.
If you say they're archaic, that means you must be doing something better, right? Please elucidate on their method vs. yours, if you will.
Or are you not really able to look at their tunes at all....which is what I suspect.
Placate me, what's the most power/torque you've ever seen from a 65 with Powerchips or anyone else's tuning?
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Let's stick to the topic of your tunes then - how are your tunes less 'archaic' than the competition? I'm curious as to what parts of Powerchip's tune you consider sub-standard, since you seem to have peered at everything...or have you?
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I think the powerchip tune for the 55s is far from archaic. They have spent the most time and research on the 55s to date, and were the first to remove the 2006 load limitations. My tune is incredible, to say the least. Im not sure which one you saw, but their updated tune is very good. In fact, my friend has a stage 5 SL55 which had Kleemann software, and dynoed at 480 whp, and then I convinced him to go with Powerchip, the Powerchip tune dynoed at 509 WHP. They are definitely doing something right. Im still interested in your TCU tuning(once 55 results are in) but chances are, Ill stick with the Powerchip for the ECU.
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I have seen just about all of the "tuners" performance(I use this term very loosely) software because it is my software engineer that reads these files and points out their lacking parameters.
Archaic meaning that they don't have the ability to delve deep enough into the code itself instead of just changing some figures in the respective tables.
Do you know about any of what you are asking or are you just like the rest of the select few naysayers that question EVERYTHING(relevant or not) and don't know or understand what you are questioning even if it was explained to you?
Andy-
I hope you don't even acknowledge the quoted post. I think I have it covered.
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I think the powerchip tune for the 55s is far from archaic. They have spent the most time and research on the 55s to date, and were the first to remove the 2006 load limitations. My tune is incredible, to say the least. Im not sure which one you saw, but their updated tune is very good. In fact, my friend has a stage 5 SL55 which had Kleemann software, and dynoed at 480 whp, and then I convinced him to go with Powerchip, the Powerchip tune dynoed at 509 WHP. They are definitely doing something right. Im still interested in your TCU tuning(once 55 results are in) but chances are, Ill stick with the Powerchip for the ECU.
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Again, please answer this, what's the highest HP/TQ 65 you've seen to date on pump gas? Or race gas?
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I believe that would be ole Lou in AZ
Horsepower: 582.24 HP
Torque: 754.42 ft-lbs
all at the wheels and on pump.
With the results you guys got in the C63, you should be able to push well over that with tune/tcu only. Can't wait to see the results.
Horsepower: 582.24 HP
Torque: 754.42 ft-lbs
all at the wheels and on pump.
With the results you guys got in the C63, you should be able to push well over that with tune/tcu only. Can't wait to see the results.
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If I'm not mistaken SGC has made over 610 rwhp on his cl65 with just an ecu/tcu.
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Wait until you see the 65 numbers! It will blow your mind and every thought you've had about the software tuning of the 65 series engine!
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I have a CLK63 that I am building for MIR and the ECU/TCU is being done as we speak and it should be done by Monday. I have spoken to Andy many, many times and the privy info that he has passed along to me makes it an unbelievable and ground shattering accomplishment what they have been able to complete.
Wait until you see the 65 numbers! It will blow your mind and every thought you've had about the software tuning of the 65 series engine!
Wait until you see the 65 numbers! It will blow your mind and every thought you've had about the software tuning of the 65 series engine!
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Are you guys kidding me? Your charging that much for 1100 Rwtq ? Its waaaayyy too much I think your just trying to Gouge us AMG owners - who exactly do you think you are?
I have this friend thats a wiz at computers and stuff - he's even scored over a million on brickbreaker and u should see him on Halo 3 - anyways he's personally gotten over 1500 RWTQ accessing the code from his friggin PSP.
And thats on the 6 cylinder 350 motor. SO like get back to the drawing board dude.
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