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Update: MHP ECU/TCU Tuning (Throttle Blipping, etc, DONE!)

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Old 10-10-2008, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue_Monster
Any news on that 65 Dyno?
I was seriously considering getting the TCU upgrade, but I just want to see some kind of results first.
Was wondering about that also.
Old 10-10-2008, 09:28 PM
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Andy is out at Norwalk Raceway and just sent me these times:

12.09 @ 118.18

For the Juice, that corrects to: 11.94 @118.99

NICE!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Rock
Andy is out at Norwalk Raceway and just sent me these times:

12.09 @ 118.18

For the Juice, that corrects to: 11.94 @118.99

NICE!!!!!!!!
Very good times, he's almost in the 11s un-corrected
Old 10-10-2008, 11:43 PM
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I only see one run. Where is this times (plural) coming from?
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Originally Posted by Rock
Andy is out at Norwalk Raceway and just sent me these times:

12.09 @ 118.18

For the Juice, that corrects to: 11.94 @118.99

NICE!!!!!!!!
Any 60ft or 1/8 mile data? Un-corrected of course

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Old 10-11-2008, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Any 60ft or 1/8 mile data? Uncorrected of course
Another long *** day ending at NRP. I'll make it quick.

I arrived at Norwalk at 5:20PM and decided to jump in the staging lanes immediately to see how the car would do with v2 tuning fresh off a 2hr+ drive to the track. I switched to MT 265/18 DRs from the 285/18 Nitto DRs this past week in an effort to gain a better launch. Man do they bite, lol, the downside is they walk a bit up top (not as bad as a true slick but definitely a different world from the Nittos). I hit 3500 miles on the way to the track today. Car was left in sport/auto shift mode the entire time.

First run: Zero cooldown, fresh off the drive in. As you would find the car on the street any day of the week.

Actual:

5:34 PM

1.935 60'

7.935@91.81 1/8th

12.199@115.60

Corrected:

The closest weather results for 10/10/2008 at 05:34 pm

Time recorded 5:53 PM
Temperature °F 68.0
Dew Point °F 46.9
Altimeter Setting 30.27 Inches Mercury
Absolute Pressure: 29.36 Inches
Density Altitude: 1389.2 feet
Track Elelvation: 853 feet

UnCorrected ET:
12.199 (sec) @ 115.60 (MPH)

Corrected ET to Sea Level:
12.006 (sec) @ 117.397 (MPH)



Second Run: Walked all over a LS3 Vette 6M/Vert (12.52@113.46) man was he pissed LOL!!!

Actual:

7:59 PM

1.86 60'

7.81@91.66 1/8th

12.029@118.18

Corrected:

The closest weather results for 10/10/2008 at 07:59 pm

Time recorded 7:53 PM
Temperature °F 57.0
Dew Point °F 46.9
Altimeter Setting 30.30 Inches Mercury
Absolute Pressure: 29.39 Inches
Density Altitude: 640.6 feet
Track Elelvation: 853 feet

UnCorrected ET:
12.029 (sec) @ 118.18 (MPH)


Corrected ET to Sea Level:
11.948 (sec) @ 118.994 (MPH)



Third Run:

11:07 PM

Actual:

1.886 60'

7.819@92.24

12.024@118.78

Corrected:

The closest weather results for 10/10/2008 at 11:07 pm

Time recorded 10:53 PM
Temperature °F 54.0
Dew Point °F 46.0
Altimeter Setting 30.32 Inches Mercury
Absolute Pressure: 29.41 Inches
Density Altitude: 415 feet
Track Elelvation: 853 feet

UnCorrected ET:
12.024 (sec) @ 118.78 (MPH)


Corrected ET to Sea Level:
11.972 (sec) @ 119.31 (MPH)



Even though we didn't run an actual 11, overall we're still very pleased with the results. Trapping over 118.7 actual/119.3 corrected is no small feat on a sticky MT DR in a 4150lb car, the ETs weren't bad either.
I'm guessing (I'll hit the dyno Monday) that we picked up 12rw+ (conservative guess) over v1, with firmer (still MB like) shifts and the stock shift points (for those worried about excessive rpm/driveline wear).

I'll post timeslips when I get home tomorrow afternoon, there was a friend on hand to shoot a video (of my last run) but somehow he only ended up with my car up to the burnout box. At least there were 400+ witnesses on hand to verify lol.

Slips:






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So is this the best time for a C63 with tune & DRs

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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
So is this the best time fora C63 with tune & DRs
MHP seems to have run 11.66@119 with the V2 ECU and the drag radials.
quite a battle going on between

MHP
MKB
Kleeman
RennTech

Neat

11.48@121.58 is the same car that ran 11.83 w/o the custom headers

Seems its MKB and MHP with RennTech breathing down the neck
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BS. You guys buy into anything. As long as it is on drag times....
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ya... do a search guys... He got banned! There is also a thread somewhere about someones car never being the same after the ecu and tcu from MHP.....
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Originally Posted by jangy
BS. You guys buy into anything. As long as it is on drag times....
The timeslips dont lie, I have them for the 63's and there is a video of most of the runs?

I suppose there is room to question what tunes, what mods etc... I do not think anybody questioned the MKB car that ran the 11.48. Whether Andy stole the tune or was a victim is not my call to make. I just process data and I believe the times absolutely probable based on weight and power.

I know Andy was banned from here , I know pieces of the story it does not effect my ability to determine what is possible and not. An ECU tune in the C63 is worth alot more than it is on the E, dyno's prove it and the track times prove it.
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Jangy,
Here is a video of the back up 11.49 run. I can't find the 11.48 video but I have the time slips. It was done the same day just a few hours apart.
I have three separate ECU's so none of the tuners have had access to each others tunes. I send them a stock ECU and they send me their best tune.
The car had the MKB shorty headers with the MHP V2 ECU/TCU tune that day.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/d...run_639456.htm
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Sweet Man I sure do miss Andy out here... I have his newest tune waiting to get installed once I get my beast back.. I'll let you all know what I think.. One thing I know is MHP has some of the fastest timed cars out there
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
Sweet Man I sure do miss Andy out here... I have his newest tune waiting to get installed once I get my beast back.. I'll let you all know what I think.. One thing I know is MHP has some of the fastest timed cars out there

Yeah thats all Im saying, the guy tuned a C63 and got it sub 11.5, thats amazing considering nobody in an E63 has been close.

Rick I thought you were using RennTech???

Also Rick update dragtimes or send me your fastest slip, post it dam your draggingthe 63 down keeping yer old tmes up!! Dragtimes still shows ASR 360 as the fastest CLS we all know that aint true

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Sweet Man I sure do miss Andy out here... I have his newest tune waiting to get installed once I get my beast back.. I'll let you all know what I think.. One thing I know is MHP has some of the fastest timed cars out there
he's a one trick pony and good riddance as far as i'm concerned. what he's done for the c doesn't justify everyone else he's screwed and as we know, just about every other mb platform he's touched has ended up in problems for everyone involved.

definitely wish you good luck with you car though!
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
he's a one trick pony and good riddance as far as i'm concerned. what he's done for the c doesn't justify everyone else he's screwed and as we know, just about every other mb platform he's touched has ended up in problems for everyone involved.

definitely wish you good luck with you car though!
This is true
No other platform has seen any good from E55/63 to CL65 non with good results, clk 63 blk Debatable also

Factoring in the endless ranting and pages of nothing but insults and fighting…
I have to strongly agree with Chiro
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he's a one trick pony and good riddance as far as i'm concerned. what he's done for the c doesn't justify everyone else he's screwed and as we know, just about every other mb platform he's touched has ended up in problems for everyone involved.

definitely wish you good luck with you car though!
Ya... do a search. What they did to that one guys car by taking forever with the tranny tune, etc... they used his car as a test car and charged him... crazy...I have had experience with him over on the Jeep Board and he was an arrogant SOB.

We all tend to F up once in a while and I have had people slander me on forums. If he is coming back with some powerful cars, more power to him. I just wouldn't put any of there stuff on my ride...
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Ya... do a search. What they did to that one guys car by taking forever with the tranny tune, etc... they used his car as a test car and charged him... crazy...I have had experience with him over on the Jeep Board and he was an arrogant SOB.

We all tend to F up once in a while and I have had people slander me on forums. If he is coming back with some powerful cars, more power to him. I just wouldn't put any of there stuff on my ride...
i don't need to do the search...i've been shining the light on this guys bs since he arrived and i know full well how his srt8 tunes caused problems for plenty of those guys before he screwed up all but one of the mb platforms.
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Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, Mikey
lol...still the nipping at my heels huh luke. you're not sore at me that you had your lips glued to andy's *** all those months are you?

anyways, i know that andy was soley responsible for his own demise so there's no need for me to pat myself on the back. just merely pointing out to a new member that i'm fully aware of the situation and don't need to do a search on the subject.
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Not sore at all, but it seems you continue to be. You just can't pass up a bashing opportunity while trying to "shine the light" and make yourself look like the forum savior Give it a rest already. Everyone else seems to have let it go, perhaps you should do the same.
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Originally Posted by LZH
Not sore at all, but it seems you continue to be. You just can't pass up a bashing opportunity while trying to "shine the light" and make yourself look like the forum savior Give it a rest already. Everyone else seems to have let it go, perhaps you should do the same.


Post 1145 by Chiromikey didn't show he was having trouble letting things go...he didn't mention you or even say anything like "a lot of people followed Andy blindly" which would be accurate...quit the attacks and practice what you preach...sheesh

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Post 1145 by Chiromikey didn't show he was having trouble letting things go...he didn't mention you or even say anything like "a lot of people followed Andy blindly" which would be accurate...quit the attacks and practice what you preach...sheesh

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Rob - the fact that he doesn't mention me is irrelevant. Or, am I only supposed to post when directly addressed by another member ?
I didn't "attack" anyone - I simply made an observation about the fact that Mikey still holds a grudge, uses any chance he can get to bash... and I think we've all heard enough. He has made his thoughts and opinion of Andy/MHP very well know - personally I'm sick of hearing about it and sick of him patting himself on the back for somehow exposing MHP. Especially considering the fact that Mikey had many private messages with Andy in the beginning expressing interest in his product but then lashed out at him becasue Andy wouldn't give him a better deal on a tune.

Post #445 from this thread - a direct response by Mikey to Andy:

Originally Posted by chiromikey
through all of our pm's you should know how i feel about dyno numbers compared to track results so please don't preach to me on that subject.
Post # 400 from this thread:

Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Thanks Andy. You other guys that would be interested in TCU only should chime in.

I know Blackbenz and Chiro would be in for sure.
Andys question to Mikey:

Originally Posted by MHP
So you didn't email/PM me with interest in our TCU tuning, then completely change your attitude towards us when we said we weren't going to give it away?
Still don't think he's holding onto a grudge ?


If you think I'm out of line, then you clearly missed Mikeys last go round with Andy just a week or so ago:


http://www.absolutelydriven.com/foru...?t=4942&page=2

Originally Posted by chiromikey
...i've been shining the light on this guys bs since he arrived
Originally Posted by chiromikey
he's a one trick pony and good riddance as far as i'm concerned.
Yeah, you're right Rob....he doesn't have a problem letting go.


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