Update: MHP ECU/TCU Tuning (Throttle Blipping, etc, DONE!)

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Sep 21, 2008 | 12:59 AM
  #376  
Quote: Ok, I got it to work.

First vid: 0-100ish from a dig. It may take a few more minutes to process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyrdMsHwuiw

Second vid: 70-140. Sorry about the camera work at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aLiFd_ypaw
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Sep 21, 2008 | 01:01 AM
  #377  
Quote: Guys guys guys - This is what got me some trophies - My dad who was bigger and stronger than yours always said if your gonna do it do it right!
So - Start out with 1500 mg of Enan. 600 Mg of Deca a week and one 50mg of Anadrol a day. 9 iu of GH a day. 10iu of Insulin morn and after workout.
do this for 8 weeks - Switch to 200mg of Prop E oth day. 1cc Tren 1cc Mast. Every day - Cut the Gh to 6 iu and cut the insulin increase cytomel to 100mcg.
do this weeks 8-12 - weeeks 12-16 Continue 100mg Prop 3x a week + 1cc Mast Eod and 600 mg Primo. Start 120mcg of Clen e day and 150 mcg of Cytomel. and 4 iu Gh. by the time MIR comes around - if this guy shows - I'm not going.


JT55 - is a fictitious character - he does not condone the use of any illegal substances or drugs.

Holly smokes you should edit that post bro. Some retard is gonna read it and think thats what people do! That cycle is not only flawed it is for a super advanced bodybuilder!
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Sep 21, 2008 | 01:38 AM
  #378  
Quote: Ok, I got it to work.

First vid: 0-100ish from a dig. It may take a few more minutes to process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyrdMsHwuiw

Second vid: 70-140. Sorry about the camera work at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aLiFd_ypaw
Andy, the videos are great, thanks for posting them....

I have a couple of questions?

1) What are the shift points set to right now? 7200 rpm, 7400 rpm, etc.... ?

2) Can you tell what they were set to from the factory?

3) What is the difference inV2 tune?
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Sep 21, 2008 | 01:50 AM
  #379  
Quote: Andy, the videos are great, thanks for posting them....
NP, sorry it took so long.

Quote:
I have a couple of questions?

1) What are the shift points set to right now? 7200 rpm, 7400 rpm, etc.... ?

2) Can you tell what they were set to from the factory?

3) What is the difference inV2 tune?
1) 7100rpm all the time

2) 7100rpm once in a blue moon

3) 7300-7400rpm shift points, maybe 8rw from what we left on the table intially, shift firmness set at 8/9 instead of 6/7, harder launch due to revised timing tables, A/F, higher stall speed, increased line pressure, and further reduced TM down low. Basically just a better version (IMO anyway) of V1.

Thanks!
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:11 AM
  #380  
MHP, have you done any testing with the E55?
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:27 AM
  #381  
Quote: Congrats Andy on your success at getting your cred backed up with proof. There were plenty of us that believed in you! Now all of the nay sayers have to shut their pie holes.

The shift video, which showed your videography skill , was exactly what you said it was going to be. Now I can't wait to feel the 7/8 that you are doing in JT's ECU/TCU.

Well well well from the man who could do no right to the man who can do no wrong - Never could have predicted this myself. Oh wait......I did didn't I.
So as the guy who "obviously knows nothing" I obviously must have known something and put my money where my BIG Mouth is.
Once again - Line forms to the left Cash or credit?
Nice Job Andy - cant wait to drive mine.
HELLOOOO BRUCE - time to get to work buddy.
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:27 AM
  #382  
Quote: MHP, have you done any testing with the E55?
No but I have spoken to several owners that are interested in being the first. Most are highly modified, so I'd like someone with less mods, maybe stock or with just a pulley?
We're going to take another week to wrap up the 63/65 cals then move onto the 55s.

Thanks
Andy
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:32 AM
  #383  
Quote: Holly smokes you should edit that post bro. Some retard is gonna read it and think thats what people do! That cycle is not only flawed it is for a super advanced bodybuilder!
Although I am now a Super geek old man - I was once a Super Advanced BB.
SO yes everyone that is a crazy cycle for a beginner. However as far as it being
flawed I did that off the top of my head in 30 seconds. So its far from perfect.
But I have advised many national champs and this is one thing i do know about just to ease ur mind.
(of course that would all be true if i was a non-fictional character instead of the fictional psuedonym JT55 who doesn't actually own a car or know anything ab anything and is completely .
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:39 AM
  #384  
Quote: No but I have spoken to several owners that are interested in being the first. Most are highly modified, so I'd like someone with less mods, maybe stock or with just a pulley?
We're going to take another week to wrap up the 63/65 cals then move onto the 55s.

Thanks
Andy
Andy, what's the time frame on 55 tune? Can we send car to you for dyno tuning?
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:48 AM
  #385  
Quote: Andy, what's the time frame on 55 tune? Can we send car to you for dyno tuning?
Where are you located?

You can send the car here but that's not necessary 99% of the time. As long as you can log some PIDS/data and give us all the info we need about the combination, we can revise the cal until it's perfect via FedEx (which will save you a significant amount of $).

It'll be a week before we start on the 55s at this point. We're now doing both ECU and TCU for Marko so we'll wrap the 65s and 63 V2s this week.
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Sep 21, 2008 | 10:13 AM
  #386  
It's good to hear tuning can be done "remotely". What do you think gains might be on an already highly tuned 55? Seems like there are less ponies to be had with the 55 versus the 63 right from the factory with regards to just ecu tuning.

I don't mind paying for HP's but for 6k I need atleast 40-50whp. Finally, I know you already said no, but would you reconsider just selling just the tcu program????
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Sep 21, 2008 | 10:18 AM
  #387  
Very interesting thread, I am happy I happened upon it. I am currently in the market for an ECU tune up for my 2008 CLK 63 Cabrio, I even posted a thread in a different section asking about different ECU tuners, your name did not come up. I was told to go with powerchip or renntech but it appears their tunes are not up to par with what you claim to be able to do. What makes your tune different than what they are currently offereing. I have very limited knowledge of mb's, this is my first one. As you might you may or may not know my car comes from the factory with I believe 475 hp. Several other AMG 63 models come with hp ranging from 500-525 hp. When I purchased my car the salesmen told me that all the motor internals where the same, the varying hp numbers where being limited through the computer. Is this indeed a factual statement (salesmen will say anything).

Please PM me some info and prices for my application.
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Sep 21, 2008 | 10:21 AM
  #388  
Quote: Rock I know you no longer need me in your world and that you have chosen Andy as your new friend but please dont protect him just because you like his package.
I ignored you for one page because the truth hurts but yes..... Andy has a package that is far superior to yours.















Okay, I'm done with all gay material.
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Sep 21, 2008 | 11:25 AM
  #389  
For cars that dont need a ECU tune (like mine that would need to be dyno tuned anyway because noone else has my setup) are you going to sell TCU tune alone? I want my car to shift like that!
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Sep 21, 2008 | 11:27 AM
  #390  
65 Tune and Throttle Blipping
Andy,
I can't wait to see what you can do with the 6.0L V12TT. Also, not to sound dumb, but what is meant by throttle blipping. I often drive my CL65 in manual mode and when I down shift my car revs higher and matches the speed to be in the optimal gear. What is the difference between the transmission with regards to blipping the throttle? Does it just make a noise or what? Thanks in advance.

Larry
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Sep 21, 2008 | 11:34 AM
  #391  
Andy chance you would reconsider the mandatory ECU/TCU combo Andy?

Sure would be willing to try the TCU only and many here would as well.
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Sep 21, 2008 | 01:52 PM
  #392  
Quote: It's good to hear tuning can be done "remotely". What do you think gains might be on an already highly tuned 55? Seems like there are less ponies to be had with the 55 versus the 63 right from the factory with regards to just ecu tuning.
In your case I'm not so sure, TM is holding you back bigtime.

Quote:
I don't mind paying for HP's but for 6k I need atleast 40-50whp. Finally, I know you already said no, but would you reconsider just selling just the tcu program????
We are considering doing so for 55s/65s but only if you have a stock ECU. Reason being is if we don't tune your TCU to match your ECU you can break something fairly easily. If we have to take the time to read what's already done to your ECU by someone else (and it's going to be subpar to what we can do) we have to charge you for that time anyway. It's all about the mating of the two control units.
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Sep 21, 2008 | 01:57 PM
  #393  
Quote: Very interesting thread, I am happy I happened upon it. I am currently in the market for an ECU tune up for my 2008 CLK 63 Cabrio, I even posted a thread in a different section asking about different ECU tuners, your name did not come up. I was told to go with powerchip or renntech but it appears their tunes are not up to par with what you claim to be able to do. What makes your tune different than what they are currently offereing. I have very limited knowledge of mb's, this is my first one. As you might you may or may not know my car comes from the factory with I believe 475 hp. Several other AMG 63 models come with hp ranging from 500-525 hp. When I purchased my car the salesmen told me that all the motor internals where the same, the varying hp numbers where being limited through the computer. Is this indeed a factual statement (salesmen will say anything).

Please PM me some info and prices for my application.
The difference in power stems from tuning that is correct. Primarily what we do that's different than anyone else is: 1) We have the ability to tune a TCU 2) We merry the ECU to the TCU so they work together not against each other which allows for higher power output and driveline safety 3) We can get farther into the ECU than anyone else.

We offer complete driveline tuning and can custom tailor the ECU/TCU to your specific application or needs. Please view the initial post of this thread for pricing and more detailed info on what we can do and how we do it.
If you have any other questions please feel free to PM, call or email. I'll be posting a new thread for those interested in getting in on the intial one time only GP pricing later this week.

Thanks
Andy
andrew@modernhorsepower.com
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Sep 21, 2008 | 01:58 PM
  #394  
Quote: I ignored you for one page because the truth hurts but yes..... Andy has a package that is far superior to yours.

LMAO!!!
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:01 PM
  #395  
Quote: For cars that dont need a ECU tune (like mine that would need to be dyno tuned anyway because noone else has my setup) are you going to sell TCU tune alone? I want my car to shift like that!
As I posted above we really don't want to do that for the aforementioned reasons but I can already see the demand is going to be high for scenarios like this...Trust me, I want your car to shift like this too.

Who tuned your ECU and why do you say that it doesn't need an ECU tune? I can already tell you without seeing the car that we can make you more power via ECU tuning than you have presently.
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:04 PM
  #396  
Quote: Andy,
I can't wait to see what you can do with the 6.0L V12TT. Also, not to sound dumb, but what is meant by throttle blipping. I often drive my CL65 in manual mode and when I down shift my car revs higher and matches the speed to be in the optimal gear. What is the difference between the transmission with regards to blipping the throttle? Does it just make a noise or what? Thanks in advance.

Larry
Thanks Larry, I can't wait for Marko's results to be posted. He's going to send us his ECU this week so we can do complete driveline tuning (opposed to just the stage II TCU we did for him last week).
Throttle blipping/rev matched downshifts mean that when you're slowing down from say 60mph to a stop, your car will (when not in manual mode) automatically rev match downshifts for you. They are no load meaning the car won't jerk or move while doing so, they are simply perfectly matched downshifts. Long story short you hear the car bumping down through the gears when decelerating, but don't feel anything.

Thanks
Andy
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:05 PM
  #397  
Quote: Andy chance you would reconsider the mandatory ECU/TCU combo Andy?

Sure would be willing to try the TCU only and many here would as well.
Are you running a stock ECU or aftermarket?

Thanks
Andy
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:23 PM
  #398  
Modded aftermarket ECU custom tuned to my car.

Really just interested in a bit firmer shifts and perhaps tinkering with shift points as my car is running 2.82 SL55 gears.
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Sep 21, 2008 | 02:34 PM
  #399  
Quote: Modded aftermarket ECU custom tuned to my car.

Really just interested in a bit firmer shifts and perhaps tinkering with shift points as my car is running 2.82 SL55 gears.
I'll consult with my partner more about the demand for TCU only tuning with other ECU tunes. Although I can tell you right now the results won't be as good as if we tuned both ECU/TCU.


Thanks
Andy
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Sep 21, 2008 | 05:30 PM
  #400  
Thanks Andy. You other guys that would be interested in TCU only should chime in.

I know Blackbenz and Chiro would be in for sure.
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