I just lost to a V3 335i coupe.
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I thought the same thing from the vids. If I were you, here's the solution 1. Get the Johnson Pump 2. Get a CODE III pulley (about $600.) 3. Get a tune (Chicago X or Jerry at LET) for about $499.00 Later, you can get a HE IC for the car (Code III is doing a Spearco unit that we've all been waiting for)
Once that's done, I can't see that 335 pulling on you at all. Don't forget, we're looking at a highly modded 335 against a stock E55. I don't see the comparison. Call us back when you get the pump replaced (this is a very common problem leading to high IATs on the E55 and C32. Most of us have been there , done that. The fix is about 30 minutes.
Once that's done, I can't see that 335 pulling on you at all. Don't forget, we're looking at a highly modded 335 against a stock E55. I don't see the comparison. Call us back when you get the pump replaced (this is a very common problem leading to high IATs on the E55 and C32. Most of us have been there , done that. The fix is about 30 minutes.
I have seen it and almost had it installed in my car.. but not yet ready.
The E55 supercharger pulley will have some gains.. but as much as the C32. since the bearing OEM size is a issue.
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The V3 guys usually data log all their runs, and monitor boost, iat, coolant temps, oil temps.. ect.
I highly recommend E55 owners do the same.. or else you are going to all over the youtube 6 o'clock blogs.
this is what I use...
http://www.carchip.com/Products/8226.asp
not real time.. but super easy to use and don't need a lap top while driving.
pop it in... on your commute to work and see the results when you arrive at the office.
you can even monitor's your wife's driving habits..
when she drives alone.
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ask for either... you probably don't need them.
I have changed my pumps about 4 times... both cars.. never needed 1 hose.
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Aceusa.com had them in stock and for a good price compared to what I saw. I was thinking after I install this pump and see how it works I should get a heat exchanger. My biggest concern is the car's supercharger turning off. I don't want to mod it to make it faster just yet.
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The 335 is one little beast,there 15 psi tune is nothing for there turbos,I dont know where your seeing blown turbos.They run 15psi from 3-5k and then tapper down to 13 psi by red line,that is not that much more boost than stock.
Theres only 1 guy that I know of that blew his turbos and whos knows what happened to that car.Dont get me wrong there are plenty of people who are having rattling waste gates but that has nothing to do with the tune,bone stock cars are having this and bmw has uppdated its ecus to try and fix the problem,its a mechanical problem and even stock 335 have them.The only other problems they have are the fuel pumps.
Shiv has dyno'd his car like 300 times in the past 2 years and hasnt blown up his turbos(he made the first tune for that car v1,v2,v3 ect)A good race would be a full bolt on 335 vs a stage 2 e55.
this guy still has his stock catts and exh on his 335 also,My buddy ran a 12.6@113.9 with just a jb3 on his 335and nothing else was done,just the jb3 wich was like 500 bucks and he ran a mid 12.He is going to add down pipes and full exh and wants to try and break 116 and run a really low 12.
Here is a well done 335 and has one heck of a power band,you can see how the boost drops off towards redline.
Theres only 1 guy that I know of that blew his turbos and whos knows what happened to that car.Dont get me wrong there are plenty of people who are having rattling waste gates but that has nothing to do with the tune,bone stock cars are having this and bmw has uppdated its ecus to try and fix the problem,its a mechanical problem and even stock 335 have them.The only other problems they have are the fuel pumps.
Shiv has dyno'd his car like 300 times in the past 2 years and hasnt blown up his turbos(he made the first tune for that car v1,v2,v3 ect)A good race would be a full bolt on 335 vs a stage 2 e55.
this guy still has his stock catts and exh on his 335 also,My buddy ran a 12.6@113.9 with just a jb3 on his 335and nothing else was done,just the jb3 wich was like 500 bucks and he ran a mid 12.He is going to add down pipes and full exh and wants to try and break 116 and run a really low 12.
Here is a well done 335 and has one heck of a power band,you can see how the boost drops off towards redline.
J/K there a great bang 4 the buck!
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Just a small bit of info. This 335 pulls on a C63 a larger gap than it did on this E55. Repeated runs, it pulls away from a C63. & I don't believe a C63 has this heat soak or whatever problem you guys are discussing.
So I guess my question is, does a stock E55 with its IC or whatever working properly pull on a C63? Cos if it does, then there was nothing wrong with this 55 on those runs.
So I guess my question is, does a stock E55 with its IC or whatever working properly pull on a C63? Cos if it does, then there was nothing wrong with this 55 on those runs.
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Just a small bit of info. This 335 pulls on a C63 a larger gap than it did on this E55. Repeated runs, it pulls away from a C63. & I don't believe a C63 has this heat soak or whatever problem you guys are discussing.
So I guess my question is, does a stock E55 with its IC or whatever working properly pull on a C63? Cos if it does, then there was nothing wrong with this 55 on those runs.
So I guess my question is, does a stock E55 with its IC or whatever working properly pull on a C63? Cos if it does, then there was nothing wrong with this 55 on those runs.
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Just a small bit of info. This 335 pulls on a C63 a larger gap than it did on this E55. Repeated runs, it pulls away from a C63. & I don't believe a C63 has this heat soak or whatever problem you guys are discussing.
So I guess my question is, does a stock E55 with its IC or whatever working properly pull on a C63? Cos if it does, then there was nothing wrong with this 55 on those runs.
So I guess my question is, does a stock E55 with its IC or whatever working properly pull on a C63? Cos if it does, then there was nothing wrong with this 55 on those runs.
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Well from what I understand wether it's good or bad doesn't make a difference on hp. A bad pump will allow your supercharger to turn off more quickly while a good pump will help keep it on longer. Anyone correct me if i'm wrong with that. My question is when the supercharger turns off and then turns back on again, does it lose power? I feel like it does but that's my opinion and not a fact.
like i tryed to explain earlier, NO your IC pump is not bad enough yet to lose power from. of course from when your car is NICE and cold and from when u do 3 runs u lose some power but not worlds of a difference, but u def lose some power from the heated charged air now, that goes for every FI car.
any power you lose is form heatsoak which isnt that much since the car dis-engages the SC when it gets too hott, and re-engages the SC when its back into operating temperature. the difference of power between these two points isnt that much but i can post some back to back dynos to show the heatsoak power loss.
dont forget you were racing a FI car aswell, each run you did, he lost some power aswell from heatsoak.
Again, from your SC disengages is where your IAT are too high and the car goes into a protection limp mode, when the cools off in the operating range the SC re-engages again.
the power loss here is no more then if u have pushed the car 2-3 times.
have you ever raced a C63? you can tell right there if your losing alot of power from you IC pump. if you beat one or at least kept up, your IC pump is NOT bad and all your experiencing is the down side of the baby limp mode and extreme heatsoak of this engine.
with the new pump, good choice
, it isnt gonan give you any power in your case since your IC isnt dead yet, but its gonna help to keep you from going into this SC limp mode, and keep the car from heatsoaking a bit more.
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Hey E55AMGGG04,
I am Kyle, the guy with the 335i that you guys were supposedly looking for the other night when you raced Ballzzzz in his white 335i. I didnt know you guys were going down this past thursday.
I'll be there this upcoming thursday so hopefully you will have fixed those things on your car so that everything is cool.
By the way i have a 335i and by next thursday I should have the new beta tune that is not offered to the public yet and is stronger than the high boost map offered in the JB3. But I have JB3, Dual cone intake, Code 3 Spearco FMIC and I run 100 octane.........I should be able to make it this week. Last week was awful with every single worried client calling up about their fixed annuities with First Sun America which is a subsidiary of AIG.........
But if you guys wanted to try some early day runs next week so we can get better footage then im down, BES was talking about doing that......let me know
By the way I have alot of respect for the AMG models it is a great car
I am Kyle, the guy with the 335i that you guys were supposedly looking for the other night when you raced Ballzzzz in his white 335i. I didnt know you guys were going down this past thursday.
I'll be there this upcoming thursday so hopefully you will have fixed those things on your car so that everything is cool.
By the way i have a 335i and by next thursday I should have the new beta tune that is not offered to the public yet and is stronger than the high boost map offered in the JB3. But I have JB3, Dual cone intake, Code 3 Spearco FMIC and I run 100 octane.........I should be able to make it this week. Last week was awful with every single worried client calling up about their fixed annuities with First Sun America which is a subsidiary of AIG.........
But if you guys wanted to try some early day runs next week so we can get better footage then im down, BES was talking about doing that......let me know
By the way I have alot of respect for the AMG models it is a great car
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Well from what I understand wether it's good or bad doesn't make a difference on hp. A bad pump will allow your supercharger to turn off more quickly while a good pump will help keep it on longer. Anyone correct me if i'm wrong with that. My question is when the supercharger turns off and then turns back on again, does it lose power? I feel like it does but that's my opinion and not a fact.
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yea i noticed the same thing. the coolant temp doesnt necessarly have a connection to the SC charged air but it gives an idea at where ur car is at. but a oil temp gauge and a IAT temp is very powerful tool that our cars do not come with.
it really doesnt make much of a difference if coolant was hot or cold really, the charged air and the IC just couldnt keep up.
when u say multiple times do u mean the SC came back on, you went full throttle on it right away, and after two full throttle bursts it shut off again?
if this is what you are saying, that bascailly the IAt rising again above operating conditions the the SC going into limp mode. nothing wierd there. just the car doings its job.
it really doesnt make much of a difference if coolant was hot or cold really, the charged air and the IC just couldnt keep up.
when u say multiple times do u mean the SC came back on, you went full throttle on it right away, and after two full throttle bursts it shut off again?
if this is what you are saying, that bascailly the IAt rising again above operating conditions the the SC going into limp mode. nothing wierd there. just the car doings its job.
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yea i noticed the same thing. the coolant temp doesnt necessarly have a connection to the SC charged air but it gives an idea at where ur car is at. but a oil temp gauge and a IAT temp is very powerful tool that our cars do not come with.
it really doesnt make much of a difference if coolant was hot or cold really, the charged air and the IC just couldnt keep up.
when u say multiple times do u mean the SC came back on, you went full throttle on it right away, and after two full throttle bursts it shut off again?
if this is what you are saying, that bascailly the IAt rising again above operating conditions the the SC going into limp mode. nothing wierd there. just the car doings its job.
it really doesnt make much of a difference if coolant was hot or cold really, the charged air and the IC just couldnt keep up.
when u say multiple times do u mean the SC came back on, you went full throttle on it right away, and after two full throttle bursts it shut off again?
if this is what you are saying, that bascailly the IAt rising again above operating conditions the the SC going into limp mode. nothing wierd there. just the car doings its job.
