I just lost to a V3 335i coupe.
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When you said your supercharger turned off, I would like to know how
you could tell. Obviously you would loose power but are there other signs
it's switched off, it's joined to the crank by a belt, I just can't get my head
around the word " switched off " . Sorry if I sound thick, I would like to know.
you could tell. Obviously you would loose power but are there other signs
it's switched off, it's joined to the crank by a belt, I just can't get my head
around the word " switched off " . Sorry if I sound thick, I would like to know.
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He had his car at max boost when you started to race and his car is an automatic. His car shifted pretty quickly after the go which shows he was in his power band already. You should have tried a slower roll.
A little tuning to your E55 will make it a much different race!
A little tuning to your E55 will make it a much different race!
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i simply downshifted to 2nd on the re-run and made a huge difference in result... after the dyno day, i understand y... torque curve maxes at around 5~6k rpm on our cars...
You're not the only forum member here to loose & then re-run a modded 335i, I did vs a J3 tuned 335i, then MJ50 RENN stg 1 lost to the same 335i, though we both got re-matches & (IC pump & IC itself etc..repairs in my case) & both of us beat him.
335i was using race gas when I wasn't, after I used race gas the 335i couldn't touch me, then MJ50 drove a bit better & got better IC (I think, correct if I'm wrong MJ50) MJ50 pulled him by about (2) lengths after that.
I think w/J3 V3 tuning they can run pretty even w/BONE STOCK E55k & perhaps edge them slightly (when you guys heatsoak), lil' phuckers have thrown up 114-116 mph traps in optimal conditions on Dragtimes & bmw forums..
335i was using race gas when I wasn't, after I used race gas the 335i couldn't touch me, then MJ50 drove a bit better & got better IC (I think, correct if I'm wrong MJ50) MJ50 pulled him by about (2) lengths after that.
I think w/J3 V3 tuning they can run pretty even w/BONE STOCK E55k & perhaps edge them slightly (when you guys heatsoak), lil' phuckers have thrown up 114-116 mph traps in optimal conditions on Dragtimes & bmw forums..
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When you said your supercharger turned off, I would like to know how
you could tell. Obviously you would loose power but are there other signs
it's switched off, it's joined to the crank by a belt, I just can't get my head
around the word " switched off " . Sorry if I sound thick, I would like to know.
you could tell. Obviously you would loose power but are there other signs
it's switched off, it's joined to the crank by a belt, I just can't get my head
around the word " switched off " . Sorry if I sound thick, I would like to know.
If the plate is engaged at a certain speed or engine load.. the kompressor add power.
if the DME sees the IAT's reach near 200F it will literally disengage the plate and it will let the motor run without the kompressor..
our cars have both a bypass valve and magnetic clutch.. most aftermarket products just have a bypass valve to control when boost is applied or not.
lesson:
if you don't data log your car and dont know if your IAT's are under control....
please!!! dont race!
V3 with race gas is just as good as JB3 with Race gas.. both products are very similar in output.
I still give the Edge to JB3 since I have seen better dyno results.
the white coupe had down pipes, v3, and FMIC.. which is nice combo. Probably just needs the intake and some exhaust mods.
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I noticed from the vids that sometimes I heard your supercharger whine and sometimes I did not, so I believe it is definitely intermittent at best.
Also, did you manually shift down to the lowest gear before you floored it?
Good luck with the upgrades.
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Damn, wish I made it out last night... I missed some fun runs. Let's set it up again for next week with the 335i vs a few other misc cars. lol.
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Yeah I'm going again next week. I don't have any friends with a faster car then my E55. I'm have my friend's 335i coupe, ST8 jeep, 335xi(jb2,intakes), G37, IS350, RS4, and a type-S come by next week. I'm going to call the guy with the V3 335i also. It should be fun.
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LET might be still digging out after the floods...so make sure they can get it to ya.
I noticed from the vids that sometimes I heard your supercharger whine and sometimes I did not, so I believe it is definitely intermittent at best.
Also, did you manually shift down to the lowest gear before you floored it?
Good luck with the upgrades.
I noticed from the vids that sometimes I heard your supercharger whine and sometimes I did not, so I believe it is definitely intermittent at best.
Also, did you manually shift down to the lowest gear before you floored it?
Good luck with the upgrades.
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Sorry about the loss. Told ya they were no joke.
Bottom line is this bro. The weak link IS and always WILL be heat on our cars. You can literally install a new IC pump every day and you will still have heat problems in your car in stock form. These things are made for bout ONE kick A run, then each run slowly reduces after that.
If you ever want to start modding her, make cooling mods at the top of your list. Not going to GIVE you hp as much as helping the car recover quicker after hard runs.
I don't have the most mods, but I am sure near the top of the list and even with Johnson 90 pump in a separated intercooler circuit with a MASSIVE code 3 heat exchanger.....my car still will act sluggish a bit after 2 or 3 hard runs in a row.
Just the status quo until Benz saves us with TTV8 coming soon.
Bottom line is this bro. The weak link IS and always WILL be heat on our cars. You can literally install a new IC pump every day and you will still have heat problems in your car in stock form. These things are made for bout ONE kick A run, then each run slowly reduces after that.
If you ever want to start modding her, make cooling mods at the top of your list. Not going to GIVE you hp as much as helping the car recover quicker after hard runs.
I don't have the most mods, but I am sure near the top of the list and even with Johnson 90 pump in a separated intercooler circuit with a MASSIVE code 3 heat exchanger.....my car still will act sluggish a bit after 2 or 3 hard runs in a row.
Just the status quo until Benz saves us with TTV8 coming soon.
i agree 100%!
i had the same problem, i was racing and my supercharger had the same shutting off feeling or it was disengaging, felt like a 4 cylinder lol.
anyways this happened after about 4-5 full throttle runs. my tech told me that my IAT were rising and the car has a disengagin point to protect the car.
so i thought maybe my IC pump got old and wasnt doing its job anymore. i went and bought a new IC pump and got it replaced. it felt pretty good after about 5 runs it was holding up, my tech told me my IAT were still rising just as fast aswell besides getting the new IC pump. after a few months i ended up changing it again! with about the same results. same OEM PUMP.
i ended up racing the same car with both new pumps, they didnt help at all for any power or keeping power up!
overall until your car goes into this limp 'TYPE' mode with the sueprcharger disconnecting or disengaging, the power seems to be in the same range maybe with a couple HP lose from the IAT going up the car most likely pulling timing a bit and the car overall getting heatsoaked.
if you think ur gonna get a new IC pump and go and beat the same car, that isnt going to happen, but your SC wont disengage so your gonna get more runs in and your SC wont keep "shutting off"
BTW, OEM is good, but u can get better if you dont care for OEM stuff and if u have warranty.
GL
your probably gonna need a pulley or tune to beat him, maybe even exhaust and intake alone will do it
btw dont forget the 335i gets pretty bad heatsoak from there twin turbos, except there shut off point is much higher, there IAT are also higher then the E55's engine as my tech explained.
that 335i was probably pretty heatsoaked as is.
good chance would be try to get the 335i heatsoaked before running him
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Thanks topgun32 you explained it well.
Now my problem is with a S600 which is turbo, and I don't seem to get
good throttle response even in sport mode. Unless you really kick it it feels
like the more throttle you give the slower it goes, and then suddenly it will
take of. I.m sure one of you guys has an Idea what it could be.
Now my problem is with a S600 which is turbo, and I don't seem to get
good throttle response even in sport mode. Unless you really kick it it feels
like the more throttle you give the slower it goes, and then suddenly it will
take of. I.m sure one of you guys has an Idea what it could be.
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My pump was soo bad i would barely get 1 hard pull before the kompressor shut down, and even when it wasnt shut down it felt sluggish. I ordered the Johnson CM30 from LETMotorsports over a month ago, still on BO im told, so i installed the upgraded bosch unit in the meantime. Car is MUCH MUCH stronger now, and it takes 5-6 hard pulls to shutoff now...
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My pump was soo bad i would barely get 1 hard pull before the kompressor shut down, and even when it wasnt shut down it felt sluggish. I ordered the Johnson CM30 from LETMotorsports over a month ago, still on BO im told, so i installed the upgraded bosch unit in the meantime. Car is MUCH MUCH stronger now, and it takes 5-6 hard pulls to shutoff now...
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LET might be still digging out after the floods...so make sure they can get it to ya.
I noticed from the vids that sometimes I heard your supercharger whine and sometimes I did not, so I believe it is definitely intermittent at best.
Also, did you manually shift down to the lowest gear before you floored it?
Good luck with the upgrades.
I noticed from the vids that sometimes I heard your supercharger whine and sometimes I did not, so I believe it is definitely intermittent at best.
Also, did you manually shift down to the lowest gear before you floored it?
Good luck with the upgrades.
Once that's done, I can't see that 335 pulling on you at all. Don't forget, we're looking at a highly modded 335 against a stock E55. I don't see the comparison. Call us back when you get the pump replaced (this is a very common problem leading to high IATs on the E55 and C32. Most of us have been there , done that. The fix is about 30 minutes.
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I'm not looking for HP with a new pump. I'm hoping that it will help stop my supercharger from turning off every run I have. if i wanted HP I'd get a pulley or ecu tune. My main objective right now is to get the new pump. I think it will help my car. I keep calling Letmotorsports but they don't answer.
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but it seems like the OP's IC pump is at about the same stage my was, about 5-7 full throttle blows and the cars SC disengages.
when u go 1-2 times full throttle 5 second bursts and it shuts down, you IC pump is shot, and your def losing power since the IAT are more then likely staying really high from the get go.
again your IC seems to be what the OEM equipment seems to be putting out, your IC stilll seems very functional.
the ony way you will gain HP is as stated above, if you SC is going out from 1-2 punches of the throttle.
HP you will def gain if your pump still seems mediumly strong. and your can sustain multiple full throttle runs without the SC dis-engaging.
you cant forget as i mentioned as much heatsoak you were building, the 335i was probably buidling just as much if not more since he is on a stock size upgraded intercooler with stock pipping running 15 psi!!! he must have been heat soakes pretty bad aswell.
P.s. for what its worth, the supercharger sounds doesnt just go away, if the SC disengages you can def feel it, and the OP car would have turned into a 4 cylnder. there would be no way he can even accel that hard.
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