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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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You have such biased comprehension of my written word. Re-read my offer to Andy...I said that if he wanted to CONTRADICT what I said... or call me a LIAR...I would release the PM's. To his credit, Andy did not call me a liar nor did he contradict what I said in that post. I feel no need to open up my PM's to public given that there is no dispute between Andy and myself over that post. I have nothing to hide from in those PMs...and neither does Andy. Andy can send you my PM's...ok... I am not sure Andy would see any point to it given that there is nothing in dispute contained in those PMs.

But nice try to create some sort of conspiracy theory... maybe write a book D'Acolyte Code... or something...

Good luck,

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I'm sure thise is nothing to dispute in the PM's other than the fact that you felt the need to overstep your bounds and post numbers that were relayed to you in a private telephone conversation. And then after pulling your foot out of your mouth and being told by Andy that he would not do business with you - you felt the need to come here and start your own advertising thread for other tuners becasue you were "banned". I don't believe Andy ever used the word "banned", I think he realized that you were simply a douche that would only casue him frustration if he were to engage in business with you. Apparently from your posts and holier than thou attitude, he made the right decision. And here we are.

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Nothing constructive to withdraw from these threads...just a lot of fighting and name calling. It's sad because supposedly we all represent the name AMG...some may have different model cars but in the end it is an AMG. it is useless to get along...we say there is no peace in the world...we can't even have peace thru the internet..., much less face to face...

Please stop the name calling...I sure as hell am no Admin but as a member of this site it is definitely nothing worth reading.
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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I'm sure thise is nothing to dispute in the PM's other than the fact that you felt the need to overstep your bounds and post numbers that were relayed to you in a private telephone conversation.
LOL...wow...I have never spoken to Andy on the telephone and received the dyno #'s in a PM....so not sure I understand where you are coming from...but it seems to be part of your "logical" arguments...

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Sorry - I meant via PM. The contents of which you chose to share without his consent - since you agree that he sent you those numbers privately, it's prettly clear that you know exactly what you did wrong. It was not your place. Thanks again for proving my point(s).
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Did Andy ever tell us why he and MHP are the only ones in the wide wide world of MB tuning who are able to perform tunes to their level of performance and durability? Just wondering why Kleemann, RENNtech, and the others are so stupid.
That's what I want to know. I think this is the whole basis of this thread. I got points from both sides, but yes it has become silly.

Back again though, why is MPH so much better than Kleeman and Renntech? I'm no fanboy of either, but Kleeman and Renntech are two of the main industry leaders of tuning Mercedes correct?

Side question: My dealer said they will do a ECU Kleeman tune for $1200, getting 20-30 more horsepower. Worth it?

With the kompressor added 130 more horses, and this is on my NA CLS. The bill would be around 15K, which seems to be rather high for just a K1 stage.
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LZH
Sorry - I meant via PM. The contents of which you chose to share without his consent - since you agree that he sent you those numbers privately, it's prettly clear that you know exactly what you did wrong. It was not your place. Thanks again for proving my point(s).
Listen...the PM isn't a confessional nor does it have some sort of Doctor/Lawyer Client priviledge. After receiving the PM with the dyno #'s on 9/26/08 at 7:54PM EST. I urged him to go get a dyno done on a 65 ASAP. Members here were ready to spend their hard earned cash on his product (an expensive one at that) and they should have ALL the information disclosed to them. Why me...why did he tell just me...why not all the other people who were asking about his tune for the V12TT. Go back and look at the timeline. When Andy wasn't forthcoming right away...I prodded him in the thread(Post #753 on 9/29/08 at 9:55AM). The rest is history....

Nice try saying I did the wrong thing by looking out for other members here...

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Honestly, the only thing that MHP hasn't done is show us how their tunes will hold up long term. That can only be achieved with time. They have provided dyno graphs, videos and other well respected members here have commented they what they have achieved is the real deal. Sure, there is some skepticism of the long term reliability but again, only time will tell.
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Honestly, the only thing that MHP hasn't done is show us how their tunes will hold up long term. That can only be achieved with time. They have provided dyno graphs, videos and other well respected members here have commented they what they have achieved is the real deal. Sure, there is some skepticism of the long term reliability but again, only time will tell.

Nice job...all it needed was a

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I am Andy at MHP and I approve this message"

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
Listen...the PM isn't a confessional nor does it have some sort of Doctor/Lawyer Client priviledge. After receiving the PM with the dyno #'s on 9/26/08 at 7:54PM EST. I urged him to go get a dyno done on a 65 ASAP. Members here were ready to spend their hard earned cash on his product (an expensive one at that) and they should have ALL the information disclosed to them. Why me...why did he tell just me...why not all the other people who were asking about his tune for the V12TT. Go back and look at the timeline. When Andy wasn't forthcoming right away...I prodded him in the thread(Post #753 on 9/29/08 at 9:55AM). The rest is history....

Nice try saying I did the wrong thing by looking out for other members here...

Tom
Oh I get it, you were unhappy with how he was doing business, you were impatient and felt that you could do his job better so you opened your mouth to "help others"....RIIIIIIGHT. Hall Monitor doesn't even begin to describe the level of self entitlement you have displayed. And then you start this thread becasue you felt wronged. Lemme ask you a question - if you didn't agree with Andy and his numbers, one would assume you wouldn't want to buy his product...so then why do you feel so wronged by being "banned" from MHP? Something tells me you are simply an attention ***** constantly looking for approval from those around you. You give new meaning to the phrase "READY, FIRE, AIM".
I think we have all the facts now.
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Oh I get it, you were unhappy with how he was doing business, you were impatient and felt that you could do his job better so you opened your mouth to "help others"....RIIIIIIGHT. Hall Monitor doesn't even begin to describe the level of self entitlement you have displayed. And then you start this thread becasue you felt wronged. Lemme ask you a question - if you didn't agree with Andy and his numbers, one would assume you wouldn't want to buy his product...so then why do you feel so wronged by being "banned" from MHP? Something tells me you are simply an attention ***** constantly looking for approval from those around you. I think we have all the facts now.
Andy Acolyte:

Yeah...that makes sense... I have been on here for SIX years (wow just noticed my 6 year anniversary is coming up... maybe some dyno charts would be a nice present) accumulating a HUGE 600+ posts here pandering and looking for attention. That makes sense...

I don't feel "wronged" by them... I don't like his business practices and I have moved on. He came in here and immediately started taking shots. He started asking some questions...I gave him an "education". We had some exchanges. You stepped in as his surrogate ...and it has been a party ever since... he hasn't wronged me...and guess whatI haven't "wronged" him. mbworld is big enough for the both of us...life goes on.

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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...life goes on.

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Yes, it does and your true colors shine brightly. I'll make sure to reference this thread after MIR
Take care, it's been fun.
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Yes, it does and your true colors shine brightly. I'll make sure to reference this thread after MIR
Take care, it's been fun.

Ciao!!!

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Why do I have this strange feeling he will be back here...angrier then ever?

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Should use this again Tom
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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whew thanks man i was feeling left out with my small brakes and wooden steering wheel
I never understood why Mercedes did that? I got the big AMG brakes/calipers on my SL600, I would think the extra weight & fact your CL is a 600 as well should deff come w/AMG brakes (even though they label them Mercedes instead of AMG) I have NO qualms w/my wood steering wheel, it also comes w/same AMG shifter paddles on the back & AMG racing pedals...

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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I never understood why Mercedes did that? I got the big AMG brakes/calipers on my SL600, I would think the extra weight & fact your CL is a 600 as well should deff come w/AMG brakes (even though they label them Mercedes instead of AMG) I have NO qualms w/my wood steering wheel, it also comes w/same AMG shifter paddles on the back too...
yeah its weird, i think euro model CL's came with the same calipers u have. I just have to think ahead if I wanna apply the brakes
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Here is a RENNtech tuned Dyno Dynamics dyno for Joe Curry's SL600. The peak figures are 522rwhp and 716lbs-ft tq.

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Here is a RENNtech tuned Dyno Dynamics dyno for Joe Curry's SL600. The peak figures are 522rwhp and 716lbs-ft tq.

Tom
man u just made Bob Bradys day. Hi Bob, FYI im neighbors with crazy Siegie Galitzin with the BMW M1
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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man u just made Bob Bradys day. Hi Bob, FYI im neighbors with crazy Siegie Galitzin with the BMW M1

Yeah...I noticed him down there too... I almost PMed him to see if he was enjoying the thread...

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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You should tell him to send you a check for promoting his products
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Hey the numbers don't lie....the fastest V12TT MB's out there without NOS are cars owned by Fishgold, Jason, Ver, SGC, Curry, Selden and Treynor. all those cars have run under 11.4. All run RENNtech tunes with one notable exception. Give the devil their due...their stuff works. Their software is too expensive and hoepfully someone will come to the marketplace with a product that is alot more affordable with as much (if not more) performance. Hopefully LET can provide such an option for a "cheap" guy like myself...

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Hey the numbers don't lie....the fastest V12TT MB's out there without NOS are cars owned by Fishgold, Jason, Ver, SGC, Curry, Selden and Treynor. all those cars have run under 11.4. All run RENNtech tunes with one notable exception. Give the devil their due...their stuff works. Their software is too expensive and hoepfully someone will come to the marketplace with a product that is alot more affordable with as much (if not more) performance. Hopefully LET can provide such an option for a "cheap" guy like myself...

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From speaking w/Jerry today, I think they may be on to something eagerly waiting for the LET 65 results
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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yeah its weird, i think euro model CL's came with the same calipers u have. I just have to think ahead if I wanna apply the brakes
Funny still, I ran into a 2005 CL600 owner here in Santa Barbara, It had the same AMG brakes as my SL? Guess it was an option on the CL600 he didn't know
since he bought it used like me..

It's 1 of my fav features being able to haul *** (w/passenger) & scare the krap outta them when they think I don't have enough room to stop, phukkurs stop on a dime
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
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Here is a RENNtech tuned Dyno Dynamics dyno for Joe Curry's SL600. The peak figures are 522rwhp and 716lbs-ft tq.

Tom
Good gawd! if LET can do this
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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because I didn't blow money on a CLK63 BS (a great car by the way) or a 997 S (sorry...should have got a TT)
Wait, what's wrong with a 997 S?
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Wait, what's wrong with a 997 S?
If were talking straight line? there SLOW
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