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Dyno'd my stock E55 - Wow, you won't believe this.

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Kleemann claims a drivetrain loss of around 19% for our 55's.

That would calculate at

600hp. Bet you have a strong 55, but 600 bone stock. Ummmmmmmm.

at 18% loss it's

594

and 17% loss it's

586
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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check the crank pulley, easy to see if it's not stock.... something is off, either the dyno, or the car was modified... even-so, you would need a pulley change, ecu tune and headers to make that kind of power, altough if you hit the speed limiter, sounds like a stock ECU... If it's too good to be true....

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fikse
check the crank pulley, easy to see if it's not stock.... something is off, either the dyno, or the car was modified... even-so, you would need a pulley change, ecu tune and headers to make that kind of power, altough if you hit the speed limiter, sounds like a stock ECU... If it's too good to be true....
You can tune an ECU and leave the stock limiter...but most people don't.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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That's one healthy BEAST. Is your car modded but you are NOT aware?
I don't think so. In fact, compared to all the 55's I test drove before this, this one feels like it was driven by a granny.

Here is a shot of my engine bay:



Before the dyno, here is exactly what I had/did:

Temp was misty and 60 degrees.
-1/4 gallon of Chevron 91 with 10% ethanol. (i know, I didn't realize it until I went back to the same station to fill up later.)
-Fresh Oil/filter change 0W40 1 week ago.
-Cut out the "flaps" on the intake. See pic below:



And did an ECU/Tranny Reset right before the dyno. That's it. Everybody else's numbers were right on.

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Kleemann claims a drivetrain loss of around 19% for our 55's.

That would calculate at

600hp. Bet you have a strong 55, but 600 bone stock. Ummmmmmmm.

at 18% loss it's

594

and 17% loss it's

586
Hey buddy, I'm just posting up the numbers that I got. I guess the track will validate these numbers. I'm going on the 18th of Oct., so sit tight.

Unless some else in the Seattle area wants to let me borrow their G-tech or pay for another dyno run?

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
hmmm

that is simply mind boggling. Its gotta be an anomoly? could your car be modded and you dunno?

560 is 90 hp over manufacturer and 60-75 over most stock 55's

not much comp from the audi's and porsches lol
Chris at Floored Fabrication ran my E55 on the dyno at the stock RWHP was 427

So at 17% drivetrain loss that should equal 514 Crank HP

You have a gem or there are some hidden mods.

Great pulls!
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Well it's pretty safe to say that it's a fluke and something's not right. You say others got their numbers they expected, but most people expect way too high of numbers when they dyno, especially audi people on forums lol.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Talking After the MBZ reflash?

Originally Posted by chiromikey
well your numbers are 100hp over my stock numbers on a dyno dynamics.
Hey Mikey: Is that after the infamous MBZ reflash?

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Godfather
Well it's pretty safe to say that it's a fluke and something's not right. You say others got their numbers they expected, but most people expect way too high of numbers when they dyno, especially audi people on forums lol.

lol, I loved your Audi.

Anyway, here is everybody....the Camaro towards the end was loud as hell just idling and had 100 Shot of NOS.

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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put it on a dyno jet and let's see for sure I would want to be certain of the numbers myself and wouldnt trust anything less than a dynojet. **** I hit 410WHP and made an epic video of the run lol.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The Godfather
put it on a dyno jet and let's see for sure I would want to be certain of the numbers myself and wouldnt trust anything less than a dynojet. **** I hit 410WHP and made an epic video of the run lol.
I'll tell you what. If I run mid 11's, will that suffice? I know the numbers are huge, so I won't put them in my sig just yet. But in two weeks, I'll hit the track and see if I can validate those numbers.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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The only way to really find out for sure if its a fluke or not is to try a different shop. Some dyno's are not calibrated properly and will give very "optimistic" numbers.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
I'll tell you what. If I run mid 11's, will that suffice? I know the numbers are huge, so I won't put them in my sig just yet. But in two weeks, I'll hit the track and see if I can validate those numbers.
hah yeah
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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the launch will determine your ET's, but the trap speed will show your HP.... expect 120 MPH with that kind of power with decent weather and track...


Originally Posted by str8ridin
I'll tell you what. If I run mid 11's, will that suffice? I know the numbers are huge, so I won't put them in my sig just yet. But in two weeks, I'll hit the track and see if I can validate those numbers.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by str8ridin
I'll tell you what. If I run mid 11's, will that suffice? I
No.....but if you can trap at 121-122, that will.

I suspect green filters gave you the 100hp boost or perhaps someone surreptitiously installed a Vortec Cyclone.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Hope you know we're just busting chops.

One thing is for sure, you got one of the stronger ones (even though she not may be putting out 600hp crank) and THAT is a very good thing.

Compression numbers in the 55 engines vary so much in these friggin things (meaning compression # of each piston due to ring setup). Mine is on the low scale but never uses a drop of oil. Higginsbeach tested near the top of the scale. Bet yours is near there too.

You ever get er to the track, let us know.


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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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I think my car is ultra quick too..seems Godfathers is slow..lol
Anyway that must of been cool to have a dyno day with all those "Tuner" fanboys and cars and totally blow them all away by 200HP
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news - but that # is simply not possible on a stock car. I use Dyno Dynamics and my apologies to Andy but his comments about Dyno Dynamics are simply not correct. Dyno Dynamics makes the heart breaker dyno and while you can config ANY dyno to give you inflated #s, Dyno Dynamics is by far the most conservative that I have seen. This has been discussed a lot, and I won't go into it further.

A normal 55k car makes 380-390rwhp on a Dyno Dynamics. 370 on the low end, 400 on the high end. I'm not sure what's going on there, but I can assure you, you aren't making 486rwhp. That would equate to ~623bhp

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Vader13
I think my car is ultra quick too..seems Godfathers is slow..lol
Anyway that must of been cool to have a dyno day with all those "Tuner" fanboys and cars and totally blow them all away by 200HP
This comment made me laugh..


Even the Camaro on Nos, did not match the Monster
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
This comment made me laugh..


Even the Camaro on Nos, did not match the Monster
Of course in a race it would have been a different story
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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Hey Mikey: Is that after the infamous MBZ reflash?

Regards!

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after the infamous reflash i was at 330rwhp. after i got my ecu replaced i was back to a normal 383rwhp (all on a dyno dynamics of course).

Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
I hate to be the bearer of bad news - but that # is simply not possible on a stock car. I use Dyno Dynamics and my apologies to Andy but his comments about Dyno Dynamics are simply not correct. Dyno Dynamics makes the heart breaker dyno and while you can config ANY dyno to give you inflated #s, Dyno Dynamics is by far the most conservative that I have seen. This has been discussed a lot, and I won't go into it further.

A normal 55k car makes 380-390rwhp on a Dyno Dynamics. 370 on the low end, 400 on the high end. I'm not sure what's going on there, but I can assure you, you aren't making 486rwhp. That would equate to ~623bhp

-m
gotta agree with marcus on this one.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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Do you have an Iphone by any chance?

Run the Dynolicious App.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Do you have an Iphone by any chance?

Run the Dynolicious App.
Dynolicious is really cool, but I find it to read e/t's that are about 1/10th slower that my slips read.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Ah, at least I got some love. I totally understand the skepticism though. At least I impressed all the Northwest Quattro guys though. 1/2 of the thread on the dyno day on their site is praising E55's!

Questions:

1: Besides the 1:1 gear ratio, why is it recommended to do the pulls in 4th when our (non chipped) governors kick in and do not let us reach peak HP?
2: What is the difference of getting a pull in 3rd?
3: I don't have any iPhone, so is the Dynolicious app free to download? I'll have a friend who can do it.

4: Anyone willing to pay for another dyno on a dynojet? If the numbers are more than 10% off, you'll get your money back. If they are the same, then...well, you know.
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