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Old 10-18-2008, 02:30 PM
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Secondary cats off or on?

Ok so I took out my resonator a while back and the sound well...sounds pretty much the same. It is a bit deeper but not that much. I got an xpipe made to replace the resonator.

I'm thinkinga bout removing the two little secondary cats. Questions are:

a) Will it affect performance, due to backpressure changes
b) Will I still pass smog
c) wtf are they there for in the first place anyway?

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Originally Posted by The Godfather
Ok so I took out my resonator a while back and the sound well...sounds pretty much the same. It is a bit deeper but not that much. I got an xpipe made to replace the resonator.

I'm thinkinga bout removing the two little secondary cats. Questions are:

a) Will it affect performance, due to backpressure changes
b) Will I still pass smog
c) wtf are they there for in the first place anyway?

Thanks. xoxo.

Coming from a couple Boosted cars, if your looking for TOP-END power, the less restrictions on the exhaust side the better... but if your looking for LOW-END power.. this isnt the Mod for you.

My buddy Gained 13WHP by deleting all his Resonators and Cats on a Boosted M3.... Many Evo/Sti guys gains 10+hp from removing cats/resonators ....


You Might not pass smog... If you remove all of them.

Cats are put in from the dealership becasue cataylst converts the nitrogen oxide into harmless emmissions... basically it takes away harmful fumes to the enviorment..
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Get rid of the post cats but keep the resonators to retain some back pressure needed with the supercharged engine.
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If I remove the resonator and take out the muffler fillings that should not affect any power different, correct?

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Originally Posted by ECBAOBAO
If I remove the resonator and take out the muffler fillings that should not affect any power different, correct?

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The best option is to delete the cats. Leave the muffler and resonators alone.
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Originally Posted by Qmax03
The best option is to delete the cats. Leave the muffler and resonators alone.
When you delete the cats, do you run straight pipes? And what size pipe (2.75" or 2.5") and what type (stainless or basic aluminum)? Does this also add some growl to the exhaust or does the resonator still quiet it down?
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Originally Posted by Timeless
When you delete the cats, do you run straight pipes? And what size pipe (2.75" or 2.5") and what type (stainless or basic aluminum)? Does this also add some growl to the exhaust or does the resonator still quiet it down?
I can only tell you about what i done on my other cars, since it hasnt been done on the E55 yet...

i usually run 3" SS straight pipes only because the the size of the enitre exhaust from the cat on .

It does change the sound of the exhaust by a little.... im makes it sound a bit more "grunty" ... If your looking to make it sound louder or anythgin to that effect... cut out the resonators as well... i was more into making power then noise, so i just took out the cats.... and put took out the muffler and put a resonated type muffler with OEM Exhaust tips.
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Originally Posted by Qmax03
The best option is to delete the cats. Leave the muffler and resonators alone.
Why?

I still need to pass smog tho
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Originally Posted by ECBAOBAO
Why?

I still need to pass smog tho
Im alot more perfomance oriented, If your looking for SOUND then go ahead and delete the resonators and gut the mufflers... but if your looking for some extra hp cut the cats off.

With no res and guted muffler youll pass smog and it wont hurt/effect the performance.. ( well the gutted muffler might since its taking away some restriction from the exhaust) ... well you know what im trying to say.
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I had mine removed at VRP. I am going 3" tubes from the primary cats to the X-pipe and then from x-pipe to mufflers tomorrow. I dunno what the pressure difference will be.
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Originally Posted by jangy
I had mine removed at VRP. I am going 3" tubes from the primary cats to the X-pipe and then from x-pipe to mufflers tomorrow. I dunno what the pressure difference will be.
Keep us updates please... id like to hear about the results.

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so best way to gain some hp from exhaust is to take off 2ndary cats? adding an x pipe would help?
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Get rid of the post cats but keep the resonators to retain some back pressure needed with the supercharged engine.
Can you replace the resonator with an X-Pipe or with that cause you to loose some back pressure?
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Originally Posted by jangy
I had mine removed at VRP. I am going 3" tubes from the primary cats to the X-pipe and then from x-pipe to mufflers tomorrow. I dunno what the pressure difference will be.
my current setup is just like it...
2nd cat delete
resonator delete
3" piping with x-pipe
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Originally Posted by MJ50
my current setup is just like it...
2nd cat delete
resonator delete
3" piping with x-pipe
How does it sound and are you running stock mufflers?
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
How does it sound and are you running stock mufflers?
it's tad louder than b4...
i'm running magnaflow mufflers...
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Originally Posted by MJ50
it's tad louder than b4...
i'm running magnaflow mufflers...
Sound clip?
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Sound clip?
nope...
someday i will have sound/video clip...
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Will removing the resonator with two straight pipes affect performance? (all cats still in place)
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Will removing the resonator with two straight pipes affect performance? (all cats still in place)
no, but might as well go all out at once then deleting resonator first and then end up doing more deletes later...
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Originally Posted by MJ50
no, but might as well go all out at once then deleting resonator first and then end up doing more deletes later...
Do you know how much the typical cost to replace the resonator with straight pipes (parts + labor)?
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Originally Posted by MPRESIV
Do you know how much the typical cost to replace the resonator with straight pipes (parts + labor)?
resonator delete is normally under 100...
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Can you replace the resonator with an X-Pipe or with that cause you to loose some back pressure?
Yes you can.
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Will removing the resonator with two straight pipes affect performance? (all cats still in place)
Not at all.


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