I have 20/15 vision, I saw what I saw- the TQ info could be a little off.

 

I think the TQ was 528, but thanks for the bump!!

 

It was a quick glance

 

So, what you are saying is on paper Jangy still can't beat my car. I am making more HP (511.4) and near equal torque in my current state of tune (not including NOS), my car is much lighter and I can lay down consistant 1.70 60' times. We don't even have to go to the track to settle this one, simple physics tells me Jangy still does not stand a chance, not even if I run him on motor only.

Lap dances are on me in January everyone.............

 

I just quoted the numbers Jim. Please dont drag me into this endless debate that you and Jangy have created on the net.

Lets just wait till Jan to see what transpires ...

 

My primary objective as a business person is to give my clients the best products regardless of the manufacturer. That is what I do and my clients are my first priority. That is the mantra that I believe in when tuning a client's car. They come to me because of my experience and trust me to give them the best products available. My LOYALTY is to MY CLIENTS!

I have had extensive conversations with Andy and Dave and have discussed many attributes to the tuning code and protocol that they are using and there is not another software tuner that can do what they do. PERIOD. Most of you on this forum wouldn't understand what we discussed but I am sure would love to know. Sorry can't do it because of a confidentiality agreement with MHP.

How does believing in a company's product offering constitute me as a groupie, kiss a$$, etc? If you had the information that I have and you could decipher it, you would be sold on their ability to tackle things through software code that NO ONE ELSE CAN!! Many tuners just manipulate a few variables in a couple of tables in the software and that is it.

There have been things that have been discussed privately and, believe it or not, there has been a fear instilled in the MAJOR software players in the MB world that are scrambling to find ways to DUPLICATE what Andy and Dave are doing. Not speculation...FACT!

I purposely put the DISCLAIMER part for all the negative naysayers that plague this forum. You know who you are....internet gangsta.
The people that know me or have spoken to me know one thing about me...I call a SPADE a SPADE. I choose to take a positive approach unless I am trying to rectify/explain misinformation that is soooo prevalent on this and every other forum. Take it with a grain of salt and know that it is my expert opinion and that is all.

I would really appreciate if anyone has some type of rebuttal that consists of name calling, loyalties or sexual preferences that they PM me their phone number so I can address this man-to-man on the phone. All of the people that I consider internet gangstas I pray that you are coming to Ohio on the 1st or MIR and get to meet me. I am sure most of you will put your tail between your legs and act like the b!tches you really are.

 

Your primary objective as a business person is to give your clients the best products regardless of manufacturer... by "best," what exactly do you mean? Most businessmen's primary objective is to make money. Yes, you also have an objective to provide your clients the best products, but would you really be providing them with MHP products if their margin wasn't so much better than the "other" tuners?

We already know their "AMG Tax" is through the roof on the software tuning, so I'm guessing you're making at least 35-50% profit by becoming a dealer, and most likely getting your initial ECU/TCU tune for free and with zero buy-in.

THAT would explain your thoughts on the tune more than anything revolutionary happening. It's common knowledge that the 63's have a lot held up in the ECU... any manufacturer's retune would make a substantial difference in performance on a "butt dyno."

So, there's your response without calling your sexuality into question.

B

 

I request that everyone stop the "flexing" Talk like this will get you uninvited to this event. We are looking forward to having a fun time, not physical altercations at our MIR event. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but lets take our energy out on the track, not on each other.

 

+1

 

The only muscle I am flexing is that of my car...Sure, I am trying to stir the pot a little with some freindly jabs just to generate some interest in the event. There are going to be a lot of story lines going into this event. I want to keep it entertaining for both those who attend and those who do not.

 

1.INCORRECT. You are

2.INCORRECT. Again you are

3.I had another tuner's software in the car already and the difference is undeniable with the new tune.

You know what happens when you ASSume so much of which it clearly seems you know very little about.

4.Explain what your post was trying to accomplish? I hope you can make it to MIR since you aren't that far away. Maybe we can have drinks. See ya there GANGSTA!

 

I have to say this group as a whole is disapointing. While I believe there to be great vendors on this forum I am amazed at how little substance and how much usless banter surrounds discussions of products.

 

+1,000,000

 

Only time will tell if MHP lives up to the hype but from what I can see (which I see with many power mods) is people always concentrating on peak numbers. From day one MHP has been saying it's more about the drive-ability of the TCU tune they provide than anything and their ECU tune just matches up with anyone else out there if not slightly better than most but again it's more about the TCU. Correct me if I'm wrong and I have reading comprehension issues!

Now me personally I am more about the fine tuning of shifts, acceleration, powerband, etc. that Andy mentions the TCU tune provides. Obviously many people are still hung up on dyno numbers and from what I can tell even 1/4 mile times are not the end all in a DD IMO which most if not all these cars are for the most part. How splitting hairs on a tenth or two in the 1/4 or a few more hp on the dyno relates to my daily drive is beyond me but everyone has their opinion on what's important.

 

Gotcha. I thought someone said you were a chiropractor (that's what I meant by 'doctor') and figured that's where the name came from.

 

I am a chiropractor, which is why I jokingly said I'm not a "real doctor".

anyways, look through and compare my post history to others and you'll have a really good understanding of what's changed around here.

 

If you're referring to margin in performance potential then you'd be correct. As for profit margin, lol, trust me, he doesn't make that much. Our tunes cost $ because they take so long to code, as I've repeated ad nauseum on this forum.
Also, since you seem to know very little about the performance aftermarket, the best way to make money and keep making money is to deliver a quality product backed with excellent customer servcie. Anyone that thinks they can pawn off a half assed or even avg product and keep a client isn't going to last in this market.

It's not even his car, no it wasn't free, and he didn't make a dime off the tune in question--not a single cent. Also, we don't do free tunes.

Funny, I've heard from owners of 63s with various others tuners cals in their cars and they can't tell any difference from stock. Some of them have even hit the dyno and seen 0-3hp gains. Until someone else steps up and does the kind of testing we have been and continue to do, it's all heresay on how these cars "should" perform after tuning.

 

This is a 100% true statement. No one else in the world can provide the TCU changes we do, things that can be felt in daily driving at part throttle as well as at the track (drag/open track) at WOT. That's why we call it complete driveline tuning. Unfortunatley no quanatative measures exist to measure these things, other than getting to drive a car with said mods yourself.
At MIR I'll gladly loan my car out so others can get a feel for exactly what I'm trying to say.

Thanks

 

Why don't you guys do this in Vegas at the Speedway? That way, the winner could spread some "cheer" around by buying us some lap dances.

 

Andy your results are impressive but impugning the work of other tuners is not.

Why not have the guys who have "hit the dyno" to post up their results? That way the weak tuner is identified and the others are not slighted by innuendo.

 

I specifically declined to mention the name of the other tuner in order to avoid that.

Results are otw from our E55 tester. He wishes to remain anonymous until dyno results are in but as of right now he's a "happy camper".

 

V2 done, V3? check your PM. Keep up the good work.

 

Going to screw around with some more "small" mods before MIR where v3 will debut. Also plan on doing a 100 octane dyno with v2 (no changes to the 93 octane tune) next week. Checking now...