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Old 10-30-2008, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Trust me, you don't want a ride in my car on a race track, if you do you are a bigger man than me. I don't like riding b!tch in anyones car at speed on a track, scares me to death and I'm not affraid of anything. I would not ride b!tch if Micheal Schumacher himself was driving. The seat on the left is way out of my element.

Ahmad, are there any road courses I can rent out on Friday afternoon in the DC/Maryland area? That would be loads of fun!
When you visit us West Coasters, that'd be the ONLY time someone can call me a ***** w/out retaliation, deff want to ride shotgun in that beast!
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Come on, enough of the PC BS, you know whose car is faster.

Honestly, If someone handed you $10,000 to wager on a single 1/4 mile drag race between Jangy and I and you got to keep the money if you make the correct choice and that car wins where would you place your bet? Even without my NOS I would stomp him!
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Your car is so fast. Could it take a ZR1? I bet $100 it could. Can we stir up a ZR1 when you are out in Cali? Which one would you bet on if someone handed you $10,000 to wager on a single 1/4 mile drag race? You get to use your spray.
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Originally Posted by jangy
The big track? Holy cow, I am down and have another SL BS that may join. I'll ask, since I'm dying to drive it. I only get about 130 at Willows, though. Your car may get 150, I'd guess since you can pull farther, too (before braking). I know you aren't a dragster, but I'd still love a ride around Willows in your cars.
It's called Willow, not Willows. We've rented the track out many times over the years to test cup cars and DP's and various other race cars. During the week is a lot cheaper and they are very easy to work with. Jangy - 130mph on the front straight in an E55 is hard to believe....That means you have to be exiting 9 at close to 100mph and that would be tough in a big heavy 4 dr sedan. You would have to carry a TON of speed through 8 and everyone knows running flat out through 8 takes HUGE ***** - you go off there and it's game over. Anyway - I'm in if you guys want to organize it and I'm happy to help as I know everyone there. Personally, I'd love to get everyone out on a road course after all this 1/4 mile talk !!!

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EVOsport is having a High Performance Driving Clinic On Dec 4th @ Willow Springs if you guys are interested?

Here's the link below. Just thought i'd pass it on.

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Originally Posted by LZH
It's called Willow, not Willows.
Noted.

Jangy - 130mph on the front straight in an E55 is hard to believe....
I know I am a liar. And I didn't mean almost 130. I was in the 130s. To make it more controversial, I was outlapping a Z06 (modded with race fuel) and a Factory Spyker even though I was hot lapping the car.

That means you have to be exiting 9 at close to 100mph and that would be tough in a big heavy 4 dr sedan.
Honestly, it isn't. The area is flat so there is an illusion of counter camber. BUT, the key is to go deep into the turn BEFORE turn in. If not, you run too shallow and run into that little point.
You would have to carry a TON of speed through 8 and everyone knows running flat out through 8 takes HUGE ***** - you go off there and it's game over.
And yes, turn 8 is incredible but again no huge challenge. Hit it wide and brake late with a strong turn in and POUND IT. The car will hold if driven right. No need to come off the gas at all. Does that ring a bell?

Anyway - I'm in if you guys want to organize it and I'm happy to help as I know everyone there. Personally, I'd love to get everyone out on a road course after all this 1/4 mile talk !!!

As much as we hate each other could you see if you could get us the 5K day?
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Originally Posted by sack5000
Jim,
Your car is so fast. Could it take a ZR1? I bet $100 it could. Can we stir up a ZR1 when you are out in Cali? Which one would you bet on if someone handed you $10,000 to wager on a single 1/4 mile drag race? You get to use your spray.
In Jan I'd put $10k on Jim's car on DRs (on spray though he probably won't need it) v a stock ZR1. If the ZR1 was on DRs as well he may or may not have to spray. Theoretically speaking, of course.
I'd also have to pick the ZR1 over with a fine toothed comb.
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In Jan I'd put $10k on Jim's car on DRs (on spray though he probably won't need it) v a stock ZR1. If the ZR1 was on DRs as well he may or may not have to spray. Theoretically speaking, of course.
I'd also have to pick the ZR1 over with a fine toothed comb.
I think Jim's trap speed was approaching 126-127 mph w/NOS the new ZR1 is running 11.20 w/OUT DR's & trapping 131MPH I seriously doubt Jim could take out the new ZR1, with a good/great driver behind the wheel of the ZR1 & since Jim is a seasoned driver that would be a good match up if both had equal skill...

Add DR's & that ZR1's gonna be GONE!! I'm calling it right now 10.70's @ 130+
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Originally Posted by Thericker
I think Jim's trap speed was approaching 126-127 mph w/NOS the new ZR1 is running 11.20 w/OUT DR's & trapping 131MPH I seriously doubt Jim could take out the new ZR1, with a good/great driver behind the wheel of the ZR1 & since Jim is a seasoned driver that would be a good match up if both had equal skill...

Add DR's & that ZR1's gonna be GONE!! I'm calling it right now 10.70's @ 130+
Agree, my remark was not meant to be taken seriously or literally (facetious). It would be tough to take the ZR1. Any ZR1 coming to the track would be modified.

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Originally Posted by jrcart
Trust me, you don't want a ride in my car on a race track, if you do you are a bigger man than me. I don't like riding b!tch in anyones car at speed on a track, scares me to death and I'm not affraid of anything. I would not ride b!tch if Micheal Schumacher himself was driving. The seat on the left is way out of my element.

Ahmad, are there any road courses I can rent out on Friday afternoon in the DC/Maryland area? That would be loads of fun!
Summit Point is the closest track. I have no idea how much it costs to rent but I know it isnt cheap.


ZR1 will be too fast, if a Z06 goes tens @ 128, the ZR1 will be much faster.
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Originally Posted by sack5000
Jim,
Your car is so fast. Could it take a ZR1? I bet $100 it could. Can we stir up a ZR1 when you are out in Cali? Which one would you bet on if someone handed you $10,000 to wager on a single 1/4 mile drag race? You get to use your spray.
NO, the CLK can not take a ZR1, not even close, but I'm working on it
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NO, the CLK can not take a ZR1, not even close, but I'm working on it
did i read some where that you have a zr1 on order?
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Originally Posted by Thericker
I think Jim's trap speed was approaching 126-127 mph w/NOS the new ZR1 is running 11.20 w/OUT DR's & trapping 131MPH I seriously doubt Jim could take out the new ZR1, with a good/great driver behind the wheel of the ZR1 & since Jim is a seasoned driver that would be a good match up if both had equal skill...

Add DR's & that ZR1's gonna be GONE!! I'm calling it right now 10.70's @ 130+
As long as the man known as "Ranger" is not driving. If he's behind the wheel of a ZR1 with DR's look out for LOW 10's and that's a fact!
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NO, the CLK can not take a ZR1, not even close, but I'm working on it
or...buy that clk-GTR on your avatar...and its byebye for zr1
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Originally Posted by Thericker
I think Jim's trap speed was approaching 126-127 mph w/NOS the new ZR1 is running 11.20 w/OUT DR's & trapping 131MPH I seriously doubt Jim could take out the new ZR1, with a good/great driver behind the wheel of the ZR1 & since Jim is a seasoned driver that would be a good match up if both had equal skill...

Add DR's & that ZR1's gonna be GONE!! I'm calling it right now 10.70's @ 130+
Jim's car in Jan will not be the same as it is now or at MIR. I stand by my statement and am well aware of what a ZR1 can do. I actually saw one dyno with just a pulley (GM Drivetrain testing) over 14 mos ago. 660rwhp SAE with a small pulley (16psi or so and no other mods.)
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As long as the man known as "Ranger" is not driving. If he's behind the wheel of a ZR1 with DR's look out for LOW 10's and that's a fact!
Who needs ranger when you have Jamie Furman?
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Jim's car in Jan will not be the same as it is now or at MIR. I stand by my statement and am well aware of what a ZR1 can do. I actually saw one dyno with just a pulley (GM Drivetrain testing) over 14 mos ago. 660rwhp SAE with a small pulley (16psi or so and no other mods.)
That's pretty sick. Although, it's still just an overblown Vette.
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Trust me, you don't want a ride in my car on a race track, if you do you are a bigger man than me. I don't like riding b!tch in anyones car at speed on a track, scares me to death and I'm not affraid of anything. I would not ride b!tch if Micheal Schumacher himself was driving. The seat on the left is way out of my element.

Ahmad, are there any road courses I can rent out on Friday afternoon in the DC/Maryland area? That would be loads of fun!

Jim check out NJMP.com it's an awesome road course in south jersey only about 30-40 min from Md
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As long as the man known as "Ranger" is not driving. If he's behind the wheel of a ZR1 with DR's look out for LOW 10's and that's a fact!
NO doubt I saw all his record slips @ Vette forums when I owned my C6...I bet w/DR's Ranger will be 10.30-10.40

Originally Posted by deuce zer0
did i read some where that you have a zr1 on order?

PS I swear I read Jim JRcart was buying (had a ZR1 on order too)
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IIRC he took delivery and flipped it for a nice profit.
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NJMP is having a Driver's Club day on Sunday the 16th.
If I go, I can bring friends with their cars for $150 for the day. The track to be used is Thunderbolt 2+ miles long.

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Who needs ranger when you have Jamie Furman?
Que eso jamie furman?
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Que eso jamie furman?
A racing buddy... bone stock off the showroom floor C6 Z06


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1876797

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A racing buddy... bone stock off the showroom floor C6 Z06


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1876797
Ahmad, was that Z06 bone stock including the tires or was that e/t run with drag slicks or drag radials?

I am amazed.....


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