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Old 11-01-2008, 10:13 AM
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Ahmad, was that Z06 bone stock including the tires or was that e/t run with drag slicks or drag radials?

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Bone stock down to stock runflats. He switched over to d/rs later in the day and ran 10.8 @ 130 Another magical record set at a MIR rental
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His car is fine, we'll be reflashing a brand new ECU for him this or next week. He also has the TCU.
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His car is fine, we'll be reflashing a brand new ECU for him this or next week. He also has the TCU.
Sweet!! glad to hear and anxious to see data, especiallt TCU on a 55k.
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Sweet!! glad to hear and anxious to see data, especiallt TCU on a 55k.
Really sucks about the previous ECU failure. I would've liked to have seen ECU v ECU results at Sac.
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Really sucks about the previous ECU failure. I would've liked to have seen ECU v ECU results at Sac.
Andy, crap happens. Important thing is that Jim isn't bugging out. You will have plenty of opportunity to stage your tune vs the other tuners. Make the most of your opportunities and let the product speak.
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Andy, crap happens. Important thing is that Jim isn't bugging out. You will have plenty of opportunity to stage your tune vs the other tuners. Make the most of your opportunities and let the product speak.
I wish that was true, unfortunatley whenever any of our customers post their results they're attacked with an onslaught of BS.
When we finally do get the credit we deserve, it will have been WELL earned.
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I wish that was true, unfortunatley whenever any of our customers post their results they're attacked with an onslaught of BS.
When we finally do get the credit we deserve, it will have been WELL earned.
It is true, Andy. Yes, we jump but again look at how it is being presented. Stay relentless with your work and it will show. Nobody can stop that part. It is the personal side that makes it a heated event when one of your tunes is posted.
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It is true, Andy. Yes, we jump but again look at how it is being presented. Stay relentless with your work and it will show. Nobody can stop that part. It is the personal side that makes it a heated event when one of your tunes is posted.
We're not going anywhere and will continue to raise the bar and set records. That being said, Jeff's thread was completely highjacked before it even got off the ground. Another of our highly satisfied CLK 63 BS customers doesn't even want to post his feelings because he already knows such a thread would turn into an instant pissing contest.
That's just sad.
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We're not going anywhere and will continue to raise the bar and set records. That being said, Jeff's thread was completely highjacked before it even got off the ground.
Mmmmmm, I dunno. Jeff got what he setup. We don't need to re-hash that thread, but it was ironic how it rolled out.

Another of our highly satisfied CLK 63 BS customers doesn't even want to post his feelings because he already knows such a thread would turn into an instant pissing contest.
That's just sad.
That I do have to agree with. Luckily, Jcart has thick skin and does post. I hope that your other CLK BS client decides to join in on the talks. As you say, no doubt that the tuning will continue.
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Mmmmmm, I dunno. Jeff got what he setup. We don't need to re-hash that thread, but it was ironic how it rolled out.
Everyone makes mistakes Jangy, even God created *******s. At least we immediately stepped up, realized the problem, and will follow through with the agreed upon solution.

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That I do have to agree with. Luckily, Jcart has thick skin and does post. I hope that your other CLK BS client decides to join in on the talks. As you say, no doubt that the tuning will continue.
As much weight as Jim carries he's still just 1 member. No doubt 2 respected members are better than 1.
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Everyone makes mistakes Jangy, even God created *******s. At least we immediately stepped up, realized the problem, and will follow through with the agreed upon solution.
ABSOLUTELY. I was not saying the mistake was it. Just saying that it was ironic that we fought so heavily over the validity of the data delta and then it tunred out to be different tunes anyways. Anyhow, your point is taken, but again, Jeff stepped into his own pile.

As much weight as Jim carries he's still just 1 member. No doubt 2 respected members are better than 1.
Very true. A mouth is not necessarily helpful. Jim still has a ways to go to be respected or established around here but I think he is on his way.
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ABSOLUTELY. I was not saying the mistake was it. Just saying that it was ironic that we fought so heavily over the validity of the data delta and then it tunred out to be different tunes anyways. Anyhow, your point is taken, but again, Jeff stepped into his own pile.
Agreed that was ironic. Please don't blame Jeff, he was simply posting results, if anyone blame me. I have NP accepting responsibility for that. I guess the most ironic part about it is that we still made more power/tq across the board with just a TCU tune.
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Agreed that was ironic. Please don't blame Jeff, he was simply posting results, if anyone blame me. I have NP accepting responsibility for that. I guess the most ironic part about it is that we still made more power/tq across the board with just a TCU tune.
Nah, don't blame Jeff. The most ironic thing is ctually the fact that you make that claim with a straight face.
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Nah, don't blame Jeff. The most ironic thing is ctually the fact that you make that claim with a straight face.
English jangy.

I said don't blame Jeff, why are you repeating it?

What claim would that be?

Feeling a bit bipolar tonight are we?
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English jangy.

I said don't blame Jeff, why are you repeating it?

What claim would that be?

Feeling a bit bipolar tonight are we?
People with that disease don't "feel bipolar" they enter into either a "manic" or "depressed" phase each of which last for several weeks, months, or longer. Untreated mania can result in death, usually from suicide or just a mind that literally won't stop running. It does finally quit. The major sign of a manic person is inability to get a normal nights sleep of 6-8 hours or more. The manic person might not sleep for days, weeks, or longer and hence some of the posts you read here later at night.
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People with that disease don't "feel bipolar" they enter into either a "manic" or "depressed" phase each of which last for several weeks, months, or longer. Untreated mania can result in death, usually from suicide or just a mind that literally won't stop running. It does finally quit. The major sign of a manic person is inability to get a normal nights sleep of 6-8 hours or more. The manic person might not sleep for days, weeks, or longer and hence some of the posts you read here later at night.
You're right, I should've asked if he was feeling manic or depressed tonight.

I have insomnia, but I'm not manic or manic/depressive, thanks. I require very little sleep (3-4hrs per night) but I need that little bit.
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English jangy.
Sorry, I must have missed some ESl classes.

I said don't blame Jeff, why are you repeating it?
I repeat it because you say don't. He had it coming and it wasn't even that bad.

What claim would that be?
That you matched up against rennTech in any meaningful way, shape, or form. You are the one belittling Jeff's efforts.

Feeling a bit bipolar tonight are we?
How so? Why do you have to be such an extremist? So, my choices are to blast you or follow the herd? Hmmm....
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Originally Posted by sack5000
People with that disease don't "feel bipolar" they enter into either a "manic" or "depressed" phase each of which last for several weeks, months, or longer. Untreated mania can result in death, usually from suicide or just a mind that literally won't stop running. It does finally quit. The major sign of a manic person is inability to get a normal nights sleep of 6-8 hours or more. The manic person might not sleep for days, weeks, or longer and hence some of the posts you read here later at night.
I'd almost argue that people with most mental diseases don't "feel" that they are the problem....WOW!! Manic would suck. I thought only amphetamine abusers repaired their grill at 3 am .
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You're right, I should've asked if he was feeling manic or depressed tonight.
Neither. I'm probably more of a mood swinger, so dunno what illness that is. I don't have long bouts of anything and I sleep like a baby.

I have insomnia, but I'm not manic or manic/depressive, thanks. I require very little sleep (3-4hrs per night) but I need that little bit.
Yeah well, typing all day can't drain much in that light bulb, huh?
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Sorry, I must have missed some ESl classes.
It's ok jangy, like I said before, even God created *******s.

I repeat it because you say don't. He had it coming and it wasn't even that bad.
Had it coming? Explain. He tried to post objective results and his thread was yet again derailed by the same old naysayers. Keep it up.

That you matched up against rennTech in any meaningful way, shape, or form. You are the one belittling Jeff's efforts.
LMAO. So you're trying to tell me we didn't make significant gains across the entire band, with peak gains of 9rwhp/13rwtq with just a TCU tune. I guess the redyno won't leave you with anything to say. Then again, I'm sure you will.

How so? Why do you have to be such an extremist? So, my choices are to blast you or follow the herd? Hmmm....
Extremist? LOL, look in the mirror man.


You don't have to be an ******* all the time, that would be a good start. I'm only a ***** when I have to be (as in when someone attacks me, our product, or one of our customers).
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Neither. I'm probably more of a mood swinger, so dunno what illness that is. I don't have long bouts of anything and I sleep like a baby.
Ask your shrink. I'm no MD but I can see the mood swings from across the country.

Yeah well, typing all day can't drain much in that light bulb, huh?
As much time as I spend on here it's still doesn't come close to me doing actual work per day (that's what happens when you function 21-20hrs a day). Although, a lot of my work is done on a computer...Maybe I should try farming?
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Maybe I should try farming?
You'd have to find a way to make the sun stay up for 20 hours.
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You'd have to find a way to make the sun stay up for 20 hours.
LMAO...Maybe in Alaska part of the year I hear they grow monster cabbage up there.
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Everyone makes mistakes Jangy, even God created *******s. At least we immediately stepped up, realized the problem, and will follow through with the agreed upon solution.



As much weight as Jim carries he's still just 1 member. No doubt 2 respected members are better than 1.

O.K Andy you need a really good spokes person and a great test car here in Cali.. I will race and go to many shows, tell all about your tune. I think the members around here respect me and I will hear me out on what I think about your tune. So a sponored tune for my car ok ok I will pay for the shipping. Lets do it


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