Changing out brake questions!!!!!!
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I'm no brake expert, but any streach...i would recommend you stick to one brand, and one model of that brand of pads, all the way around.
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The greens are for prius driving enviro-freaks. They're made out of earth friendly materials or some stupid crap like that. No joke. They are also designed as pretty much a stock-replacement pad, performance-wise. They're not much of an improvement. Take a pass on those.
What you want is the RedStuff's or YellowStuff's. The Reds are street-designed ceramics, they are a bit less heat resistant as a tradeoff for better grabbiness when they're cold. The Yellows are race pads, they're a composite made of ceramic material and kevlar, and are very highly heat fade resistant. They perform better, but they're pricier. You probably don't need these, honestly the Reds would work just fine even if you do track the car.
What you want is the RedStuff's or YellowStuff's. The Reds are street-designed ceramics, they are a bit less heat resistant as a tradeoff for better grabbiness when they're cold. The Yellows are race pads, they're a composite made of ceramic material and kevlar, and are very highly heat fade resistant. They perform better, but they're pricier. You probably don't need these, honestly the Reds would work just fine even if you do track the car.
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So I would need the following parts for the brake job...right?
1) Front brake rotors - Zimmerman
2) Front brake pad set (Akebonos) like CWW recommended
3) Anti-squeal
4) Front brake sensors
Do I need anything else beside the parts from the above list?
1) Front brake rotors - Zimmerman
2) Front brake pad set (Akebonos) like CWW recommended
3) Anti-squeal
4) Front brake sensors
Do I need anything else beside the parts from the above list?
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On the rotors, if I were you I would get your rotors from these guys, it will be cheaper than the dealer and they only sell OEM Mercedes parts. Actually, the orders are fulfilled by MB of Miami's wholesale desk. I buy my rotors from them.
E55 front rotors are on the bottom, $103 apiece, OEM Mercedes dealer-supplied part.
http://www.parts.com/oemcatalog/inde...layCatalogid=0
Rear rotors are $79 apiece, here:
http://www.parts.com/oemcatalog/inde...layCatalogid=0
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I am due for a brake job soon. The front rotors will be replaced. Do I need to buy the whole front brake pad set or just the pads and the brake sensors only, along with the front rotors...of course?? Can I used my OEM brake parts if I just want to change out the pads? Thanks for the help!
Mike
Brake pad set, including sensors - $237 DO I NEED THIS????
Brake pads - $37 (ebay - replacing OEM)
Brake sensors - $7 each
Zimmerman - $120 each (front)
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Brake pad set, including sensors - $237 DO I NEED THIS????
Brake pads - $37 (ebay - replacing OEM)
Brake sensors - $7 each
Zimmerman - $120 each (front)
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The sensors are cheap. Some people re-use the old ones if they haven't made contact yet, but I don't see the point. For $10 or whatever, just get new ones. On most MB's, there are 2 in front and one on one of the rear wheels, for 3 total. Not 100% sure about the W211's though. Someone else will be able to answer that.
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Thanks, CWW.
Someone else mentioned that you need to applied so sort of grease when changing out the rotors. Is this true? Additionally, what type of cleaning solvent do you use to clean the surface of the new rotors? Also, do I need to have a brake flush job if I change out my brakes?
Someone else mentioned that you need to applied so sort of grease when changing out the rotors. Is this true? Additionally, what type of cleaning solvent do you use to clean the surface of the new rotors? Also, do I need to have a brake flush job if I change out my brakes?
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I changed to EBC Yellow Pads, they're ceramic, no noise or squeaking. Also, some on the board may disagree, but you may be able to use your existing rotors given you have limited miles on the rotors (mine had 34k and they were fine), they pass a visual inspection and if you don't plan on tracking the car.
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You do need the anti-squeal. Otherwise it's guna be noisy, which you won't like. Just to be safe, get two packets for each corner.
The sensors are cheap. Some people re-use the old ones if they haven't made contact yet, but I don't see the point. For $10 or whatever, just get new ones. On most MB's, there are 2 in front and one on one of the rear wheels, for 3 total. Not 100% sure about the W211's though. Someone else will be able to answer that.
The sensors are cheap. Some people re-use the old ones if they haven't made contact yet, but I don't see the point. For $10 or whatever, just get new ones. On most MB's, there are 2 in front and one on one of the rear wheels, for 3 total. Not 100% sure about the W211's though. Someone else will be able to answer that.
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I would get 8 packets, so you have 2 per wheel. The E55 has big brake pads, so you will need a little more than normal. You really want to give both sides of the shim a good thick coating, and the same with the backs of the pads themselves. Then it will be nice and quiet.
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I need to correct u on this...I dont have no E55 lol....mine is CLK W209 ....ok what about the sensor??
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Since it only costs $1.90 a packet when you buy it online, I've never been inclined to try and use anything else. I'm sure there must be some kind of comparable product you can get from autozone etc., but I don't know what it is, or if it works as good or not.
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Front brake sensors and rotors - $261.61 including shipping @
http://mercedesbenzgenuinep.reachlocal.net/
Front brake pad set (AKEBONO Part # EUR983 ) - $161.79 W/out discount. Shipping is varied depending on your location
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php
This is the discount code website for Rockauto.com
http://www.retailmenot.com/view/rockauto.com
Anti-Squeal....look above in one of CWW's replied...
Total parts for front brakes should be ~ $444
If anyone can find anything cheaper....please let us know.
http://mercedesbenzgenuinep.reachlocal.net/
Front brake pad set (AKEBONO Part # EUR983 ) - $161.79 W/out discount. Shipping is varied depending on your location
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php
This is the discount code website for Rockauto.com
http://www.retailmenot.com/view/rockauto.com
Anti-Squeal....look above in one of CWW's replied...
Total parts for front brakes should be ~ $444
If anyone can find anything cheaper....please let us know.
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Front brake sensors and rotors - $261.61 including shipping @
http://mercedesbenzgenuinep.reachlocal.net/
Front brake pad set (AKEBONO Part # EUR983 ) - $161.79 W/out discount. Shipping is varied depending on your location
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php
This is the discount code website for Rockauto.com
http://www.retailmenot.com/view/rockauto.com
Anti-Squeal....look above in one of CWW's replied...
Total parts for front brakes should be ~ $444
If anyone can find anything cheaper....please let us know.
http://mercedesbenzgenuinep.reachlocal.net/
Front brake pad set (AKEBONO Part # EUR983 ) - $161.79 W/out discount. Shipping is varied depending on your location
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php
This is the discount code website for Rockauto.com
http://www.retailmenot.com/view/rockauto.com
Anti-Squeal....look above in one of CWW's replied...
Total parts for front brakes should be ~ $444
If anyone can find anything cheaper....please let us know.
RockAuto is where I got my akebono ceramic brakes, though I got my rotors from parts.com. Rock has good prices!
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If you are changing the rotors at the same time, then you might think about taking the car out to a long straight road and doing 4 or 5 60mph+ to 0 quick stops, and then drive around for a bit afterwards to let things cool off. It takes a little bit longer to bed ceramic brakes than the normal ones, maybe a week of normal use or so vs. the first 20 miles like normal brakes, but doing those stops right off the bat will get the process moving.
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Hey no problem guys, I'm happy to help.
This is probably my single favorite mod I've ever done to one of my cars, and am glad to see others going over to ceramics. That stupid dust used to annoy the living $h!t out of me! I've had 5 mercedes over the years, and all of them dusted terribly. It's just awful, looks like crap, and will eat the finish off the rims if you let it sit often enough.
Brake technology has jumped so far ahead, but all the manufacturers keep using the same old pagid and ATE pads that were developed back in 1975 or whenever. Ceramics have been really slow to catch on, outside of racing, which is pretty silly.....since they really are better.
You guys will love them, and I doubt you will ever use stock pads again. Never having to clean the rims is absolutely priceless.
This is probably my single favorite mod I've ever done to one of my cars, and am glad to see others going over to ceramics. That stupid dust used to annoy the living $h!t out of me! I've had 5 mercedes over the years, and all of them dusted terribly. It's just awful, looks like crap, and will eat the finish off the rims if you let it sit often enough.
Brake technology has jumped so far ahead, but all the manufacturers keep using the same old pagid and ATE pads that were developed back in 1975 or whenever. Ceramics have been really slow to catch on, outside of racing, which is pretty silly.....since they really are better.
You guys will love them, and I doubt you will ever use stock pads again. Never having to clean the rims is absolutely priceless.