Black Series 1/4 time
11-03-2008, 03:20 PM
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Black Series 1/4 time
My background is in road racing and I've never been much of a drag racer. But, with that being said and with all the talk of 1/4 mile times around here recently; I thought I'd see what my car would run. So, I went out to California Dragway yesterday. Here are the results:
Actual - 12.766 @ 111.67 mph.
Corrected - 12.445 @ 114.624mph.
My car is bone stock less the charcoal filters. Tires are MPS on the stock wheels. I ran against my buddies E63 that is pretty modified. He has Renntech tune and some exhaust work (Eismann mufflers and X pipe, no resonators) and runs 20" HRE's. I was in the left lane, he was in the right. My reaction time is horrible - I was having a hard time getting the car staged as it was a pretty frantic environment with lots of people rushing to make passes and the guys running the tree were not very helpful. Anyway, enough with my excuses
Here's the timeslip:
Actual - 12.766 @ 111.67 mph.
Corrected - 12.445 @ 114.624mph.
My car is bone stock less the charcoal filters. Tires are MPS on the stock wheels. I ran against my buddies E63 that is pretty modified. He has Renntech tune and some exhaust work (Eismann mufflers and X pipe, no resonators) and runs 20" HRE's. I was in the left lane, he was in the right. My reaction time is horrible - I was having a hard time getting the car staged as it was a pretty frantic environment with lots of people rushing to make passes and the guys running the tree were not very helpful. Anyway, enough with my excuses
Here's the timeslip:
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11-03-2008, 03:32 PM
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My background is in road racing and I've never been much of a drag racer. But, with that being said and with all the talk of 1/4 mile times around here recently; I thought I'd see what my car would run. So, I went out to California Dragway yesterday. Here are the results:
Actual - 12.766 @ 111.67 mph.
Corrected - 12.445 @ 114.624mph.
My car is bone stock less the charcoal filters. Tires are MPS on the stock wheels. I ran against my buddies E63 that is pretty modified. He has Renntech tune and some exhaust work (Eismann mufflers and X pipe, no resonators) and runs 20" HRE's. I was in the left lane, he was in the right. My reaction time is horrible - I was having a hard time getting the car staged as it was a pretty frantic environment with lots of people rusing to make passes and the guys running the tree were not very helpful. Anyway, enough with my excuses Here's the timeslip:
Actual - 12.766 @ 111.67 mph.
Corrected - 12.445 @ 114.624mph.
My car is bone stock less the charcoal filters. Tires are MPS on the stock wheels. I ran against my buddies E63 that is pretty modified. He has Renntech tune and some exhaust work (Eismann mufflers and X pipe, no resonators) and runs 20" HRE's. I was in the left lane, he was in the right. My reaction time is horrible - I was having a hard time getting the car staged as it was a pretty frantic environment with lots of people rusing to make passes and the guys running the tree were not very helpful. Anyway, enough with my excuses
Here's the timeslip:Last edited by jrcart; 11-03-2008 at 03:38 PM.
11-03-2008, 03:35 PM
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You should have stopped by where we were. We were all calling you over and you said you were coming back?
Oh btw the E55's all ran in the 116's and 117's including a 12.1xx and 12.0xx (uncorrected). Of course they are modded but traction was an issue.
Oh btw the E55's all ran in the 116's and 117's including a 12.1xx and 12.0xx (uncorrected). Of course they are modded but traction was an issue.
11-03-2008, 03:40 PM
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Thanks Jim - Yeah, that was my 4th pass of the day....the previous passes were spent just figuring out how to launch it. I did what you mentioned and stall braked the car then just rolled into the throttle in first gear. All passes were done in S mode with the traction control off of course. I didn't really want to mess with my tire pressures so I left them alone. I was running 36psi on the rears, cold.
Like I said, with all the heated debates of late about 1/4 mile times....I felt this was something I needed to do so I could get a god baseline on my car before making any changes/mods. I've got access to a good dyno shop, so I think that is going to be the next step - beseline 1/4 mile run as well as stock dyno. Then I plan on having MHP tune a spare ECU for me so I have no downtime on my car. After pulling the stock ECU, I'll throw the MHP ECU in the car and then run 1/4 mile again as well as dyno so I can get the most accurate possible before and after numbers.
Thanks again for the tips
Like I said, with all the heated debates of late about 1/4 mile times....I felt this was something I needed to do so I could get a god baseline on my car before making any changes/mods. I've got access to a good dyno shop, so I think that is going to be the next step - beseline 1/4 mile run as well as stock dyno. Then I plan on having MHP tune a spare ECU for me so I have no downtime on my car. After pulling the stock ECU, I'll throw the MHP ECU in the car and then run 1/4 mile again as well as dyno so I can get the most accurate possible before and after numbers.
Thanks again for the tips
11-03-2008, 03:43 PM
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11-03-2008, 03:47 PM
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Thanks Jim - Yeah, that was my 4th pass of the day....the previous passes were spent just figuring out how to launch it. I did what you mentioned and stall braked the car then just rolled into the throttle in first gear. All passes were done in S mode with the traction control off of course. I didn't really want to mess with my tire pressures so I left them alone. I was running 36psi on the rears, cold.
Like I said, with all the heated debates of late about 1/4 mile times....I felt this was something I needed to do so I could get a god baseline on my car before making any changes/mods. I've got access to a good dyno shop, so I think that is going to be the next step - beseline 1/4 mile run as well as stock dyno. Then I plan on having MHP tune a spare ECU for me so I have no downtime on my car. After pulling the stock ECU, I'll throw the MHP ECU in the car and then run 1/4 mile again as well as dyno so I can get the most accurate possible before and after numbers.
Thanks again for the tips
Like I said, with all the heated debates of late about 1/4 mile times....I felt this was something I needed to do so I could get a god baseline on my car before making any changes/mods. I've got access to a good dyno shop, so I think that is going to be the next step - beseline 1/4 mile run as well as stock dyno. Then I plan on having MHP tune a spare ECU for me so I have no downtime on my car. After pulling the stock ECU, I'll throw the MHP ECU in the car and then run 1/4 mile again as well as dyno so I can get the most accurate possible before and after numbers.
Thanks again for the tips
11-03-2008, 03:56 PM
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My background is in road racing and I've never been much of a drag racer. But, with that being said and with all the talk of 1/4 mile times around here recently; I thought I'd see what my car would run. So, I went out to California Dragway yesterday. Here are the results:
Actual - 12.766 @ 111.67 mph.
Corrected - 12.445 @ 114.624mph.
My car is bone stock less the charcoal filters. Tires are MPS on the stock wheels. I ran against my buddies E63 that is pretty modified. He has Renntech tune and some exhaust work (Eismann mufflers and X pipe, no resonators) and runs 20" HRE's. I was in the left lane, he was in the right. My reaction time is horrible - I was having a hard time getting the car staged as it was a pretty frantic environment with lots of people rushing to make passes and the guys running the tree were not very helpful. Anyway, enough with my excuses Here's the timeslip:
Actual - 12.766 @ 111.67 mph.
Corrected - 12.445 @ 114.624mph.
My car is bone stock less the charcoal filters. Tires are MPS on the stock wheels. I ran against my buddies E63 that is pretty modified. He has Renntech tune and some exhaust work (Eismann mufflers and X pipe, no resonators) and runs 20" HRE's. I was in the left lane, he was in the right. My reaction time is horrible - I was having a hard time getting the car staged as it was a pretty frantic environment with lots of people rushing to make passes and the guys running the tree were not very helpful. Anyway, enough with my excuses
Here's the timeslip:
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11-03-2008, 04:06 PM
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Your stock CLK BS times:
1/4mi - 12.76 @ 111mph
Renntech E63 times:
1/4mi - 12.98 @ 108mph
Your stock CLK BS ran faster than a Renntech modified E63? What am i missing or was this another car you ran and not your buddy?
11-03-2008, 04:57 PM
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Great job for your first time in the car! The launch is 90% of a drag race, once you get that figured out you're ETs will drop accordingly. Then again, you're going to have to relearn the launch post tune.
Great job for your first time in the car! The launch is 90% of a drag race, once you get that figured out you're ETs will drop accordingly. Then again, you're going to have to relearn the launch post tune.
11-03-2008, 05:10 PM
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Now you'll be hooked on a dual purpose car like jrcart.
When your bill from MHP or VRP or Evosport just says "card on file", you'll know you need help.
You must have had some spin off the line ... get the launch down and you'll be searching for the next .1 second off.
11-03-2008, 05:31 PM
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11-03-2008, 05:31 PM
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***** sorry Vic !!! I had no idea you were there man !!! I just saw that silver E55 (which sounded AMAZING) and AMGSC's car. Had I know it was you I would have some over and spent more time....I had some phone calls to make between passes - wife was yelling at me for bailing on her !!!!! Anyway, my bad dude - next time...I prefer Mexico runs anyway
And yes, Id much rather do the Mexico runs- next time you'll have to join in- we need a BS to rep
11-03-2008, 05:39 PM
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Maybe i'm missing something here. You were on the left and your Renntech'ed modified E63 buddy on the right?
Your stock CLK BS times:
1/4mi - 12.76 @ 111mph
Renntech E63 times:
1/4mi - 12.98 @ 108mph
Your stock CLK BS ran faster than a Renntech modified E63? What am i missing or was this another car you ran and not your buddy?
Your stock CLK BS times:
1/4mi - 12.76 @ 111mph
Renntech E63 times:
1/4mi - 12.98 @ 108mph
Your stock CLK BS ran faster than a Renntech modified E63? What am i missing or was this another car you ran and not your buddy?
11-03-2008, 06:24 PM
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Without knowing the mods, it would be hard to speculate. Could be a simple but old ECU mod which doesnt yield too much or it could be other items. Either way IMO the stock BS is faster than a stock 63. So minor mods to the 63 still could be allow the BS to trap 3 mph better.
11-03-2008, 06:55 PM
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I don't think it's odd at all. Consider that the Black Series weighs less and the E63 is running 20" wheels which don't help trap speeds. Those two factors make up for the tuning IMO which puts the car almost as fast as mine. After tuning to my car the results will be much more pronounced.
11-03-2008, 07:02 PM
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I don't think it's odd at all. Consider that the Black Series weighs less and the E63 is running 20" wheels which don't help trap speeds. Those two factors make up for the tuning IMO which puts the car almost as fast as mine. After tuning to my car the results will be much more pronounced.
What kind of "tuning" are we talking about?
11-03-2008, 07:08 PM
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Not much really...The car is already plenty fast for the street IMO - especially where I live. Just a good tune and some exhaust work is all I really want to do. I thought about going crazy, but I'd much rather spend the $$$ making my boat faster
11-03-2008, 07:14 PM
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hmmmm so if I get my 1.97 and 2.0 60' down to 1.8, instead of my 12.2 my time could be would be????????
11-03-2008, 07:17 PM
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I don't think it's odd at all. Consider that the Black Series weighs less and the E63 is running 20" wheels which don't help trap speeds. Those two factors make up for the tuning IMO which puts the car almost as fast as mine. After tuning to my car the results will be much more pronounced.
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Totally, but the E63 had me off the line every time. Granted his R/T's were better than mine....but he seemed to be able to put the power down better than me....He (the E63 driver) had a camera mounted in the car and took a video of this race. You can clearly see him jump out in front and then me pass him down the last 3/4 of the track. I'm waiting for him to post it on YouTube and then I'll post it here. No doubt in my mind that my car would continue walking away from him up to high triple digit speeds....
11-03-2008, 11:11 PM
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Totally, but the E63 had me off the line every time. Granted his R/T's were better than mine....but he seemed to be able to put the power down better than me....He (the E63 driver) had a camera mounted in the car and took a video of this race. You can clearly see him jump out in front and then me pass him down the last 3/4 of the track. I'm waiting for him to post it on YouTube and then I'll post it here. No doubt in my mind that my car would continue walking away from him up to high triple digit speeds....
11-03-2008, 11:49 PM
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nice numbers luke!
