W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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*** ECU DUMP UPDATE ***

First off I would like to give a BIG THANKS to James from:

Automotive Connoisseur Group Inc of San Diego ( ACGSD )
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877-4-ACG-SD Now (877-422-4736)

He came to my place of work about 6pm (major traffic time here in S.D) with all his fancy Tuning tools and computer stuff He wanted to see if he could fix my ECU or at least help some how. He removed my ECU, opened it up and reflashed it right there on my office desk Well, he put it all back together, installed it in my car and The Beast started right up and it has been fine ever since. We are not sure what happened to the ECU but whatever James did seems to have done the trick Again a BIG THANKS to James from ACGSD for his help. The best part is he did all this on his own without invoce or $$ NOW that's some great PR work
I now have two brand new ECU's and will be coding them on Monday morning and getting one tuned and leaving the other one stock.. Also a BIG THANKS to Andy from MHP for getting me an ECU so fast. These two Tuners have all the CLASS we can ask for here on the forun, They both stepped up
Thanks James great job.. and Andy for lightning fast ordering, If his tune is as FAST as his customer service it should be BADD AZZ

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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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That's awesome news!!! Thanks for the update.

I am going to have Andy try to reflash my broken ECU then and see if she comes back to life as well.

Then I will have 3 ECU's total. One Kleemann, one VRP and one MHP. Gonna need a bookshelf or something soon.

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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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That's awesome news!!! Thanks for the update.

I am going to have Andy try to reflash my broken ECU then and see if she comes back to life as well.

Then I will have 3 ECU's total. One Kleemann, one VRP and one MHP. Gonna need a bookshelf or something soon.

I will have three also I have two I am coding on Monday morning. Man I thought I was the only one around here. I have Bookselfs on
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Glad to hear that Rick. Time for a new MBWorld.org club: Owners of Multiple ECUs (OMEs).
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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WOW! Big props to that company in SD for going out of his way and getting the ECU fixed for you. That is really rare to find these days and to top it off it was free.

I like the idea of having an extra ECU, how much is it?
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Who knew collecting ecus was the thing to do...
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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A question about multiple tune ECU's.

How does this work? Let's say I drop tuner X ECU in my car, then 2 months later, switch to tuner Z, then back again. Tuned ECUs seem to perform better after 200 miles or so, if you pull one out will it retain it's adaptations, or do you get to start fresh again?

Just curious, as it seems that aside from the expense, you could have several "perfected" tunes for different occasions, octanes or even mods (not that you pull mods on & off frequently). What's the scoop?
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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If I understand it correctly, the MHP ECU/TCU tune is the only one that needs time to adapt becasue of the TCU changes. All other ECU only tunes should be the same the instant they are installed and require no adaptation.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy0331
A question about multiple tune ECU's.

How does this work? Let's say I drop tuner X ECU in my car, then 2 months later, switch to tuner Z, then back again. Tuned ECUs seem to perform better after 200 miles or so, if you pull one out will it retain it's adaptations, or do you get to start fresh again?

Just curious, as it seems that aside from the expense, you could have several "perfected" tunes for different occasions, octanes or even mods (not that you pull mods on & off frequently). What's the scoop?
You start fresh again as far as adaptives go (remember we eliminate the majority of adaptive learning for both ECU/TCU, others don't) everytime you swap control units because you disconnect the battery before doing so.
You are correct about having spot on tunes for different occassions (pump gas v race gas, etc.) there are no limitations as far as that is concerned other than the amount of $ you want to spend on spares.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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If I understand it correctly, the MHP ECU/TCU tune is the only one that needs time to adapt becasue of the TCU changes. All other ECU only tunes should be the same the instant they are installed and require no adaptation.
Luke,
They all need to learn regardless of tuner or even what the tuner says. Confusing topic because even some tuners will say they are 100% right away but the customers completely disagree.
I know rarfinancial has had the same experience with his tunes.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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Understood and thanks for the clairification !! Counting the days to MIR, I assume
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Glad you got your situation resolved fairly quickly. James is a great guy and has been very helpful with me as well. It's also good to see Andy going out of his way to help members out. Good job to both
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 03:04 AM
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Can't wait to start tuning the NEW ECU. What's Next POWER
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 03:11 AM
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James is a cool guy. He drove up to Irvine when he found out about my pulley failure. Too bad i couldn't find him anyplace when it came time to pay for his damages.

Anyone but Rick and I would be calling BS all over but I do think that James has been great to Rick.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 03:32 AM
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Hey Jangy, Barona Dragstrip Saturday night Nov 8th at 7pm Pinks All Out Arm Drop drag racing I'm gonna try my hardest to make it Best part is it's only $10
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 03:33 AM
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Hey Jangy, Barona Dragstrip Saturday night Nov 8th at 7pm Pinks All Out Arm Drop drag racing I'm gonna try my hardest to make it Best part is it's only $10
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
Can't wait to start tuning the NEW ECU. What's Next POWER
Are you getting TCU as well?

I assume you will compare the MHP ECU tune to RennTech's tunes? That will be interesting, especially the BS tunes.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 03:39 AM
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Give me a buzz in the afternoon, lets go see some racing. Why haven't we ever rented that track? Is it a closed track
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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No problem Rick, I'm glad we could help

thank you for the kind words
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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MIR is a no go WTF date change I would have been fukt my car would be just about there. Thanks again for the help on the ecu

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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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11.3:1 is nitrous friendly, not blower friendly, end of story.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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The compression can be adjusted with a simple phenolic spacer. Once the SC is in you can add NOS or not. NOS isn't anything special.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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Rick, is your car running now? I hope you sent MHP the old one, even if it had the RennTech tune on it.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jangy
The compression can be adjusted with a simple phenolic spacer. Once the SC is in you can add NOS or not. NOS isn't anything special.

If a gasket is thick enough to drop static C/R into the 9s I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
A phenolic (wooden) spacer used as a head gasket would make for a novel concept.

I'm not a nitrous guy myself, but you cannot deny it's effectiveness especially when used on a solid N/A platform. These motors take naturally to nitrous and when properly tuned will make incredible power and TQ.

Spraying and boosting a 11.3:1 motor on CA 91 would be like strapping yourself down and flipping the switch.

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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 02:26 AM
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Rick, is your car running now? I hope you sent MHP the old one, even if it had the RennTech tune on it.
We're not touching the old one.
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