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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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Hi everyone new to this forum just bought a 2003 E55 on new years day. it has a Renntech pulley and ECU and some of those green air filters not sure of the brand but any ways , the car is amazingly fast with endless power but no sound at all. I took the car to a friends shop and put it on a lift and was looking at the full exhaust system. I was wondering if I took it to a shop and had the resonators cut out and a straight pipe welded in and the secondary cats cut and a X-pipe put it what would happen? would it void the warranty? would any lights come on? there are not any O2 senors for the secondary cats right? how would it sounds and would there be a power difference? thanks for the help

First, welcome!!! Congrats on the E55!!

2nd, search out Vadim from VRP, he has a great set up for X-Pipes and knows his *****... what I have heard / read, the X-Pipe will give you more volume at top end but no hp gains.... the 2ndary cats are removed and the CEL will not go off.

I recommend that you go with headers first since you already have a Pulley and ECU, Kleemann makes a great set and you can talk to Cory (Kleemann guy on here) great guy!!! The headers will give you a good deal more “throat” and increased performance!! Win-Win situation.

Both these guys are 100%!
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by E55 Bulldog
First, welcome!!! Congrats on the E55!!

2nd, search out Vadim from VRP, he has a great set up for X-Pipes and knows his *****... what I have heard / read, the X-Pipe will give you more volume at top end but no hp gains.... the 2ndary cats are removed and the CEL will not go off.

I recommend that you go with headers first since you already have a Pulley and ECU, Kleemann makes a great set and you can talk to Cory (Kleemann guy on here) great guy!!! The headers will give you a good deal more “throat” and increased performance!! Win-Win situation.

Both these guys are 100%!
80mm tb and headers go hand in hand!
but to get mroe out of it , you might need a re-tune
and i am to aware that cutting second cats does not give a cel.That where they tell you to put the sensor from the primary cat if you want to cut it...behind the secondary cats. This can stil throw a cel though as seen in the kleeman set ups apprently

the cel from the o2 sensor can be turned off through ecu tuning by the way!
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
Might want to go pull codes there oh mighty one..... secondary cat removal WILL throw codes that can come up as a CEL

NOPE.

My secondary cats are out and there are no CELs and no soft codes and I have access to MB Star.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
Might want to go pull codes there oh mighty one..... secondary cat removal WILL throw codes that can come up as a CEL
There are no O2 sensors after the secondary cats, so the ECU won't notice the difference if you removed it.

NO CEL.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by phatmitzu
There are no O2 sensors after the secondary cats, so the ECU won't notice the difference if you removed it.

NO CEL.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Here's a clip of the sound with 2nd cats and resonator removed, stock mufflers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Xp6...eature=related
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Serenity Now
Here's a clip of the sound with 2nd cats and resonator removed, stock mufflers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Xp6...eature=related
Noticeable louder but subtle, which I like.
If you want more sound, some members gut their factory muffler and it sounds MEAN!

Check out this thread...

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...und-clips.html
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:42 AM
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Removing the secondary cats won't hit a CEL. So, do i dive on you and act mighty or just say it because it happens to be something i know? Not hating on you but you sure are quick to jump on anyone just to look an inch taller....
where did I say that it "would" trigger a cel.

You should dive a little more into ME 2.8 before you start to make claims with such conviction
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
where did I say that it "would" trigger a cel.

You should dive a little more into ME 2.8 before you start to make claims with such conviction
Originally Posted by E55Pilot
Before this get's stupid like the long tube header thread...

Yes you would void the warranty in the eyes of MBUSA.
Removing the secondary cats will most likely cause the CEL to come on.Sound will go up
you will probably see an increase of 4 or 5 hp

Look for the X-pipe thread and the long tube header thread (Only read the first two pages of the header thread it get's stupid after that)
WILL > WOULD. /Fail.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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WILL > WOULD. /Fail.
"Most likely" not a definite.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
"Most likely" not a definite.

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:11 AM
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:26 AM
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
Might want to go pull codes there oh mighty one..... secondary cat removal WILL throw codes that can come up as a CEL
The sensors are forward of the secondary cats- why would it throw a CEL?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
Hi everyone new to this forum just bought a 2003 E55 on new years day. it has a Renntech pulley and ECU and some of those green air filters not sure of the brand but any ways , the car is amazingly fast with endless power but no sound at all. I took the car to a friends shop and put it on a lift and was looking at the full exhaust system. I was wondering if I took it to a shop and had the resonators cut out and a straight pipe welded in and the secondary cats cut and a X-pipe put it what would happen? would it void the warranty? would any lights come on? there are not any O2 senors for the secondary cats right? how would it sounds and would there be a power difference? thanks for the help
Welcome to the forum or sometimes the Colosseum, where many people give great info and some get eaten by the lions.

My advice is use the search button and you'll see who belongs in the forum and who belongs in the Colosseum.

Last edited by RobertG; Jan 6, 2009 at 04:00 PM. Reason: spelling
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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secondary cat removal WILL throw codes that can come up as a CEL
Sorry, this is not correct information.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
where did I say that it "would" trigger a cel.
Try post #9:


Originally Posted by E55Pilot
secondary cat removal WILL throw codes that can come up as a CEL
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by E55Pilot
where did I say that it "would" trigger a cel...
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Cliff notes: E55Pilot is the type of idiot that tries to argue himself out of all the crap he made in the first place. AKA: fail.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertG
Welcome to the forum or sometimes the Colosseum, where many people give great info and some get eaten by the lions.

My advice is use the search button and you'll see who belongs in the forum and who belongs in the Colosseum.
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