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HID fog lights from James@ACGSD- where to start

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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yup, I found the way to get to the foglights. I think my bulbs are the second one from the picture. It is not the "L" shaped one.
Yeah, once you get to yours, it's straightforward. BE CAREFULL with the polarity of the error cancelers, you can blow them if you connect the HID leads to the stock harness incorrectly.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by E55_GT3wheels
has anyone with HIDs in their fogs experienced cracking of the fog lights? I had an HID kit in the fogs on my W210 E55 and about a month after installing, the lens cracked on both fogs. I realize HIDs actually burn cooler than halogen...but not sure how both lens cracked at different times after installing...

and for those who have them, do you use them often or just from time to time?
I have them in my car, and the W203 sport sedans use the exact same fog light housing as the E55. I haven't had any cracking of the housing itself. I use mine whenever I want, usually leave them off though. I did drive around with them on all the time just after I put them in to make sure I didn't have any problems however.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Hey e1000, James said something about hooking them up without the cancelers first to find the positive. Do you know anything about that?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Ok drop997stop. Here's what you need to do: (courtesy of Yacht Master)

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...know-what.html
Another alternative to this is to use something like this:

http://www.xenonlys.com/fi/art/bmw-e...ulb-holder.php

I can't seem to find any in the US though. Still looking
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Hey e1000, James said something about hooking them up without the cancelers first to find the positive. Do you know anything about that?
Yeah that's good advice actually. What he means is to hook everything up, except to leave off the error cancelers. Plug everything up like it should look, with all the clips matching. Turn you lights on without starting the car and see if they turn on. If they do, then the polarity is correct, if not, then you need to flip around the stock wiring into the first plug. Remember how everything is wired and make sure the error cancelers are put in to match the polarity.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
Yeah that's good advice actually. What he means is to hook everything up, except to leave off the error cancelers. Plug everything up like it should look, with all the clips matching. Turn you lights on without starting the car and see if they turn on. If they do, then the polarity is correct, if not, then you need to flip around the stock wiring into the first plug. Remember how everything is wired and make sure the error cancelers are put in to match the polarity.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by E55_GT3wheels
has anyone with HIDs in their fogs experienced cracking of the fog lights? I had an HID kit in the fogs on my W210 E55 and about a month after installing, the lens cracked on both fogs. I realize HIDs actually burn cooler than halogen...but not sure how both lens cracked at different times after installing...

and for those who have them, do you use them often or just from time to time?
Who ever told you they run cooler was 20 degrees wrong.

If you are a member at BenzWorld check out this thread for a 210 fog lamp install. In that thread I measured the bulb base temp.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/test...99e430s-2.html

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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This holder should work for the E63 guys.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-x-BMW-E39-2-HI...QQcmdZViewItem

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
Yeah, once you get to yours, it's straightforward. BE CAREFULL with the polarity of the error cancelers, you can blow them if you connect the HID leads to the stock harness incorrectly.
Now you scared me. How come my kit looks a little bit different. I have these 2 wires that looks weird.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
Who ever told you they run cooler was 20 degrees wrong.

If you are a member at BenzWorld check out this thread for a 210 fog lamp install. In that thread I measured the bulb base temp.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/test...99e430s-2.html
I don't think 345F vs 365F should crack his housings though. Also, an H3 bulb is drastically different to a H7 or a 9006 bulb with a proper base.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Andr3an
Now you scared me. How come my kit looks a little bit different. I have these 2 wires that looks weird.
Yeah those two little wires plug into your stock wiring female plug. Now, since yours is just essentially loose wire with connectors on it, you can plug them in whichever way you want. If you hook them up backwards and it dosen't agree with the error cancelers, they might pop. As said above, hookup everything without the error cancelers first, then drop them in after you know the wiring is correct.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
This holder should work for the E63 guys.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-x-BMW-E39-2-HI...QQcmdZViewItem

Oh here we go, these are even better:

http://www.kbcarstuff.com/BMW_E39_Adaptor_p/e39con.htm
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
Yeah those two little wires plug into your stock wiring female plug. Now, since yours is just essentially loose wire with connectors on it, you can plug them in whichever way you want. If you hook them up backwards and it dosen't agree with the error cancelers, they might pop. As said above, hookup everything without the error cancelers first, then drop them in after you know the wiring is correct.
I dont understand.. Those 2 wires are supposed to be plugged into the stock socket (the socket that connected the OEM bulbs)? It wont fit. The connectors on the wire are too big.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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did everyone get squared away?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Andr3an
I dont understand.. Those 2 wires are supposed to be plugged into the stock socket (the socket that connected the OEM bulbs)? It wont fit. The connectors on the wire are too big.
too big???? really?? Your stock socket should look like this:



If it does, push them in, may be a bit snug.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
too big???? really?? Your stock socket should look like this:



If it does, push them in, may be a bit snug.
Yeah, they are too big (see pics)
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Andr3an
Yeah, they are too big (see pics)
oh crap, you need the bulb holders too.

http://www.kbcarstuff.com/BMW_E39_Adaptor_p/e39con.htm
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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plug the stock male connector into the female connector of the ballast directly
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
plug the stock male connector into the female connector of the ballast directly
Did you write that to me? So, I need to buy that thing you posted?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Andr3an
Did you write that to me? So, I need to buy that thing you posted?
yes, yeah you do unless you are willing to hack the white bulb holder in your pic like YachtMaster did
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
plug the stock male connector into the female connector of the ballast directly
The ballast's connector are spread too far. The stock ones are closer. So, they won't fit.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Andr3an
The ballast's connector are spread too far. The stock ones are closer. So, they won't fit.
ouch. don't know what to tell you. The error cancelers may give you another couple inches, maybe you can get it to reach?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
ouch. don't know what to tell you. The error cancelers may give you another couple inches, maybe you can get it to reach?
I think he is referring to the pins /contacts in the plug have different spacing than the female receptacle. This may be to prevent use with out the "canceler", might need everything plugged in. Caution check the polarity.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
I think he is referring to the pins /contacts in the plug have different spacing than the female receptacle. This may be to prevent use with out the "canceler", might need everything plugged in. Caution check the polarity.
yup. E said to plug the stock socket directly to the ballast, but the ballast's pins are spaced wider than the OE socket which is spaced rather close.

Solutions?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Andr3an
yup. E said to plug the stock socket directly to the ballast, but the ballast's pins are spaced wider than the OE socket which is spaced rather close.

Solutions?
canceler receptacle should be the same. I don't have a W204 in front of me so you're going to have to figure this one out.
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