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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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M5 Pulled on S65?

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Very good race ,but,if I were the guy in the M5 ,I wouldn't be so happy.He didn't pull on the S65 that much at all.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Weight, gearing, drivetrain loss ... all things that hurt the 65 up top plus the M5 was modded right?
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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the M5 was modded right?
Yessir.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Yessir.
I figured but didnt read through all the posts on YT... I am honestly not surprised by that video at all.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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Thats my Swedish forum friend that had this S65 (Now it's sold) It's 100% stock while the M5 is modded by Kelleners = 550-560 HP (Sharper cams and different headers).
S65 weighs 2300 KG so I think it did pretty well so to say

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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somethings better left unsaid ...
I think something was wrong with that particular S65 .. or that M5 is heavily modded .. I know it's not stock but even modded M5s shouldn't be able to do that to a healthy 65 .. nope sorry.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic55
I figured but didnt read through all the posts on YT... I am honestly not surprised by that video at all.
Neither am I. The biturbos suffer from an incredibly poor cooling system, which is the same as the 55s, yet worse for the 65s cause they run hotter. Heat soak is a terrible problem, and if the 65 was hot lapping after having done another run previously, that could very well give the M5 the advantage.

VRP's intercooler kit will show what the TRUE potential of the V12 is

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ABALONE
Thats my Swedish forum friend that had this S65 (Now it's sold) It's 100% stock while the M5 is modded by Kelleners = 550-560 HP (Sharper cams and different headers).
S65 weighs 2300 KG so I think it did pretty well so to say

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so with extra 50 HP (20 or less RWHP) it did this to a 65 when it barely could do that to a 63 when it was stock ?

I might be wrong though.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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so with extra 50 HP (20 or less RWHP) it did this to a 65 when it barely could do that to a 63 when it was stock ?

I might be wrong though.
Sorry, I don't understand? Are you comparing a stock M5 E60 to a stock E63 now, or?
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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That was back in the good ole Gustav days.

We were getting a new "M5 beats" vids every other day.

M5 beats 997TT Ruf

M5 beats Lambo Murci

M5 beats speed of thought

M5 beats light, literally sucked into black hole and driver transported back to 1700's.

It got comical after awhile.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Damn, I was just watching this video, and was about to start a thread, lol. M5s do have an incredible top end, hell, they'll go 210 stock, and they get there pretty damn fast. I think definitely the V12 might've been suffering from some heatsoak, but the M5 was also modded, I wonder if the 560 is dyno proven or just thrown out there, I think the M5 is under-rated from the factory a little. But then again so are the S65s, so
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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I wouldn't call that a pull or a walk...it pulled barely. Definitely heat soak is an issue. I have a 5 gallon reservoir that takes care of this problem. So in my case still haven't seen the first M5 to walk me...
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Haven't you guys learned yet?

Gustav's videos are full of crap. Some of his stuff is ridiculous, like bone stock M5's walking V12tt's, M3's walking E55k's, and on and on. M5 boards are full of major MB haters, and after watching dozens of these things over the years I'm 110% convinced they're totally staged. If you watch enough Gustav vids you can just picture a 318i blowing the doors off a veyron. Actually, my mistake, he probably already made that vid too.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Dude...M5board.com...that's all I have to say...

The only way a mercedes will win in their videos is if it runs against another mercedes...
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Nice vid! I can totally beleive this... A while back I raced a 08+? S65 on a highway from about a 70 roll. Not saying I smoked it, but at 130 ish I was ahead a car or 2 still pulling pretty strong.. But then again my M6 has alot less weight than the S65 and probably more modded than that M5 in the vid..
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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I walked my friends nicely modded M5 pretty good with my stock SL65. I was pulling away even at higher speeds. There's a vid on youtube of us racing.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Who cares. They are both awesome cars and go really fast.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CWW
Haven't you guys learned yet?

Gustav's videos are full of crap. Some of his stuff is ridiculous, like bone stock M5's walking V12tt's, M3's walking E55k's, and on and on. M5 boards are full of major MB haters, and after watching dozens of these things over the years I'm 110% convinced they're totally staged. If you watch enough Gustav vids you can just picture a 318i blowing the doors off a veyron. Actually, my mistake, he probably already made that vid too.
Hi!

I have actually participated and driven in Gustavs M5Board event here in Sweden and I can tell you 110% sure that they are NOT staged by any kind!! But, and here comes the BUT

Guess who holds the camera?
Guess who decides which films that will be added to the M5board on YouTube?
Guess who invites the cars to these events?
Will he ever post those videos like when a tuned BMW M5 E39 lost against AUDI RS4 BiTurbo = NO

Magnus
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Originally Posted by bfnnrgn
I walked my friends nicely modded M5 pretty good with my stock SL65. I was pulling away even at higher speeds. There's a vid on youtube of us racing.
Can you post your vid? Would love to see it!
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
Can you post your vid? Would love to see it!
Sure thing. He always got the jump on me since he was calling the 'Go.' I caught up and overtook him though. I also can't figure out how to keep the turbos spooled when feathering the throttle setting up for the race. His M5 was making I think 487 rwhp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1p1IkfE5mw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzf7mjG_Gv4
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Originally Posted by ABALONE
Hi!

I have actually participated and driven in Gustavs M5Board event here in Sweden and I can tell you 110% sure that they are NOT staged by any kind!! But, and here comes the BUT

Guess who holds the camera?
Guess who decides which films that will be added to the M5board on YouTube?
Guess who invites the cars to these events?
Will he ever post those videos like when a tuned BMW M5 E39 lost against AUDI RS4 BiTurbo = NO

Magnus
Thanks Magnus ...
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bfnnrgn
Sure thing. He always got the jump on me since he was calling the 'Go.' I caught up and overtook him though. I also can't figure out how to keep the turbos spooled when feathering the throttle setting up for the race. His M5 was making I think 487 rwhp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1p1IkfE5mw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzf7mjG_Gv4
Damn, that SL looks sexy. But that M kept up pretty well, considering the power discrepancy, don't get me wrong, when it's not heat soaked, the 65s will win, but the M5/M6s are insanely quick above 130 or so.
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bfnnrgn,
It looked like you were talking on the phone in the second video.
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