MHP/JRCART....The Rest Of The Story
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Hopefully this all gets sorted out for those like Jrcart who put their money on the line. For the blind followers who jumped on the bandwagon, well seeing you guys back track will be amusing. Do speed limits apply when in reverse?
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Jim - Incredibly compelling reading, and like you said before I'm glad that nothing untoward happened to that beautiful beast of yours before you caught it.
I think the issue that has to be addressed here is whether or not you are claiming that Andy stole and resold the Powerchip tune as his own, or instead if when you sent your ECU back to have it reflashed to v3, they simply flashed it back to the version of Powerchip's tune that you had before they touched your ECU in the first place?
I think the issue that has to be addressed here is whether or not you are claiming that Andy stole and resold the Powerchip tune as his own, or instead if when you sent your ECU back to have it reflashed to v3, they simply flashed it back to the version of Powerchip's tune that you had before they touched your ECU in the first place?
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I think the issue that has to be addressed here is whether or not you are claiming that Andy stole and resold the Powerchip tune as his own, or instead if when you sent your ECU back to have it reflashed to v3, they simply flashed it back to the version of Powerchip's tune that you had before they touched your ECU in the first place?
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Good information, Jim keep it coming. He is right, the public has a right to know of any wrongdoing or misleading information. We are getting nearer the bottom of the rabbit hole. Finally.
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Jim, props to u for speaking the truth about Andy/MHP and i'm glad nothing damaging happened to ur BS. i think nothing went MIA for u b/c u were one of the 1st tester of his tune and he knew that if u gave a good review of the tune then many members on this forum will follow suit.
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Please don't try to call me out, why would I make up that over a dozne people have contacted me in under 2.5 days? What would I gain? Hopefully some of these people that contacted me will come forward. I have PM's and E-mails from several of them, but out of respect for their privacy I will not post the e-mails.
I urge you guys to come forward out in the public forum as you have done with me in private conversation, it's the only way to make things right.
I urge you guys to come forward out in the public forum as you have done with me in private conversation, it's the only way to make things right.
Your path with the CLK63BS has been a long and winding one, and you've demonstrated a willingness to be a "rolling-test-bed" for whatever it takes to increase your car's performance. While I don't always agree with your posts, I do respect your open and honest opinions of the hardware and software you choose, and consider you to be a straight-shooter on these issues (sometimes triggering heated debates with others, unfortunately, for everyone).
Many are interested in what developments come from these threads - it likely would be a more meaningful discussion if Andy/MHP could comment, however apparently that won't happen 'til his suspension ends, which is nearly a month from now...
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I don't know why people keep their silence. I have been watching this thread since I posted it this morning and I have been keeping an eye the list at the bottom of the page and have seen 3 people that contacted me yesterday with various gripes about their experience with MHP but none of them have posted??? You guys all know who you are, I'm not sure what people are affraid of, makes no sense to me whatsoever. I figured by me making this post it would allow some of them to ease up and post the things they told me yesterday and Tuesday...I guess not. Oh well, their loss.
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I don't know why people keep their silence. I have been watching this thread since I posted it this morning and I have been keeping an eye the list at the bottom of the page and have seen 3 people that contacted me yesterday with various gripes about their experience with MHP but none of them have posted??? You guys all know who you are, I'm not sure what people are affraid of, makes no sense to me whatsoever. I figured by me making this post it would allow some of them to ease up and post the things they told me yesterday and Tuesday...I guess not. Oh well, their loss.
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Jim:
Not looking to defend Andy.... but it could be possible that his MHP tune never took to your ECU. Remember the problems Jeff was having...it turned out it was the RENNtech tune that was still on the ECU. I have a feeling that is what happened in your case. It doesn't say much for MHP's tuning ability...but I would hope that they did not copy the Powerchip tune....
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Not looking to defend Andy.... but it could be possible that his MHP tune never took to your ECU. Remember the problems Jeff was having...it turned out it was the RENNtech tune that was still on the ECU. I have a feeling that is what happened in your case. It doesn't say much for MHP's tuning ability...but I would hope that they did not copy the Powerchip tune....
Tom
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I think the issue that has to be addressed here is whether or not you are claiming that Andy stole and resold the Powerchip tune as his own, or instead if when you sent your ECU back to have it reflashed to v3, they simply flashed it back to the version of Powerchip's tune that you had before they touched your ECU in the first place?
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I don't know why people keep their silence. I have been watching this thread since I posted it this morning and I have been keeping an eye the list at the bottom of the page and have seen 3 people that contacted me yesterday with various gripes about their experience with MHP but none of them have posted??? You guys all know who you are, I'm not sure what people are affraid of, makes no sense to me whatsoever. I figured by me making this post it would allow some of them to ease up and post the things they told me yesterday and Tuesday...I guess not. Oh well, their loss.
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Our ECUs and TCUs are different than the 63 cars, apparently - I had to ship both the engine-bay ECU and passenger-footwell TCU to MHP for tuning. I was supposed to have dyno results today, but alas my dyno shop had to reschecule the appt, so it's been pushed to early next week.
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Only when people decide to speak out. As many of you know I am not affraid to speak my mind, I am not politically correct, I don't go with the flow...I pretty much don't care what anybody thinks about me, I never back down to anyone or anything and last but not least NOBODY WILL EVER CALL ME OUT, oh, they have tried, but never succeeded I post open and honest facts and feelings regardless of popular opinion.
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The only way to "protect" forum members from bad things is for folks to share experiences.
I know some people don't like to admit they were either 1) scammed and 2) didn't do enough research or 3) wasted money - so they prefer to shut up.
Also, posting facts will NOT get you a loss in a court of law. Truth is the best defense.
And - I have a real sore spot for people that toss around threats of suits for libel and slander (usually screwing up the definitions) to keep people from posting their factual information. Huge thumbs down on the lawsuit threats. And good job on bringing it forward that your attorneys (well) advised you to just speak the truth without fear of reprisal.
Others should post. Wouldn't you have wanted someone to tell his story and have saved you some trouble??? Why perpetuate a problem???
I know some people don't like to admit they were either 1) scammed and 2) didn't do enough research or 3) wasted money - so they prefer to shut up.
Also, posting facts will NOT get you a loss in a court of law. Truth is the best defense.
And - I have a real sore spot for people that toss around threats of suits for libel and slander (usually screwing up the definitions) to keep people from posting their factual information. Huge thumbs down on the lawsuit threats. And good job on bringing it forward that your attorneys (well) advised you to just speak the truth without fear of reprisal.
Others should post. Wouldn't you have wanted someone to tell his story and have saved you some trouble??? Why perpetuate a problem???
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I can think of 2 good reasons for members keeping quite:
1) Most of the time we men believe our cars to be an extention of our *****/manhood. When theres a problem, we often hide it rather than announce it to the world. And...
2) Not every MB owner is as "financially privaleged" as JRcart, and unfortunately, tuners know this and use it as leverage.
In a case where the customer's car has a tuner-caused issues, the customer is left with a double wammy.
In this case, the customer usually does whatever the tuner suggests to recoupe his damages/losses out of fear of being abandoned.
I was a quiet victim once, but later learned that public enlightenment was my best friend.
Gentlemen I suggest you speak up. Together you will prevail... one way or another.
Good luck to all involved.
1) Most of the time we men believe our cars to be an extention of our *****/manhood. When theres a problem, we often hide it rather than announce it to the world. And...
2) Not every MB owner is as "financially privaleged" as JRcart, and unfortunately, tuners know this and use it as leverage.
In a case where the customer's car has a tuner-caused issues, the customer is left with a double wammy.
In this case, the customer usually does whatever the tuner suggests to recoupe his damages/losses out of fear of being abandoned.
I was a quiet victim once, but later learned that public enlightenment was my best friend.
Gentlemen I suggest you speak up. Together you will prevail... one way or another.
Good luck to all involved.
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The only way to "protect" forum members from bad things is for folks to share experiences.
I know some people don't like to admit they were either 1) scammed and 2) didn't do enough research or 3) wasted money - so they prefer to shut up.
Also, posting facts will NOT get you a loss in a court of law. Truth is the best defense.
And - I have a real sore spot for people that toss around threats of suits for libel and slander (usually screwing up the definitions) to keep people from posting their factual information. Huge thumbs down on the lawsuit threats. And good job on bringing it forward that your attorneys (well) advised you to just speak the truth without fear of reprisal.
Others should post. Wouldn't you have wanted someone to tell his story and have saved you some trouble??? Why perpetuate a problem???
I know some people don't like to admit they were either 1) scammed and 2) didn't do enough research or 3) wasted money - so they prefer to shut up.
Also, posting facts will NOT get you a loss in a court of law. Truth is the best defense.
And - I have a real sore spot for people that toss around threats of suits for libel and slander (usually screwing up the definitions) to keep people from posting their factual information. Huge thumbs down on the lawsuit threats. And good job on bringing it forward that your attorneys (well) advised you to just speak the truth without fear of reprisal.
Others should post. Wouldn't you have wanted someone to tell his story and have saved you some trouble??? Why perpetuate a problem???
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ones too fast according to CHP!
Powerchip did not flash the two C63's with stock software, not did it not take. They flashed them with version 1, which was before they unlocked the throttle opening from the E/SL. So, the flash DID take, it was just the wrong file.
FYI, there is no such thing as a tune not taking. In the case of attempting to flash over another tuner's file, it will either take or it will tell you during the process that it will not load over the encrypted data as I understand it. But either way, the tuner knows at that point if the tune "took" - it is not a surprise that the user has to find out later.
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