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F430 Scud Vs. M6: vid

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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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The 348, 355 and 360 all required the engine to come out for a belt service....that was the main reason a simple service was so costly.
I know...the reason for the RS6's expense was similar...they had to take the whole front clip off...nose...front mounted intercoolers...radiators etc. Draining and bleeding all those systems and then making sure there weren't any air pockets. You would think they would have thought the whole prcoess through a little more...

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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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I know...the reason for the RS6's expense was similar...they had to take the whole front clip off...nose...front mounted intercoolers...radiators etc. Draining and bleeding all those systems and then making sure there weren't any air pockets. You would think they would have thought the whole prcoess through a little more...

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They did. You paid them, right?
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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They did. You paid them, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!

Good one...
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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I think I would still take the Scud, it would rape that M6 around the track, plus it just screams sexy, and I LOVE the way they look. Video seems legit, they did say the black one was just finishing break-in, and it was slower than the red one, so that makes sense. Even the scud doesn't make as much torque as the M, and +1 on the aero, lots more drag on the Scud. Also gearing, the Scud will take it from 0 to maybe 140, but it's starting to hit a wall at about 175 or so, can't they only hit about 190 on stock gearing (redline)?
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
They did. You paid them, right?
Hey Carl do you still have the SL?
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LZH
The 348, 355 and 360 all required the engine to come out for a belt service....that was the main reason a simple service was so costly.
348 & 355 require engine out, no engine out on the 360, belts are accessible behind the seats. 430 has timing chain

i can't comment about m6 passing the scud, but I have pulled away from a stock m5 with my 430 spider. I can not imagine a stock m6 is that much quicker than a m5
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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This 6er has some go-fast bits on it, not sure how much hp it's supposed to be though.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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a Kelleners M6 fully moded (headers, full exhaust, crank pulley, tune , and an intake) can probably make near 500rwhp.. My guess is hes spraying it.. Damn I love that car up top!
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
They did. You paid them, right?
Nope...back then Audi had free maintenance over the warranty period. The belts were changed at around 35-40K miles so it was on their dime. I asked the Audi service advisors what it would have cost me for when the car was out of the maintenance period. I traded the RS6 before it came out of warranty so I never had to shell out anything.

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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Which limb are you giving up for your first service?
Limb? Not even a nose bleed. 1st service and subsequent maintenance is limited to oil and fluids change. And if you don't want to spend $500-800 at the dealer get a wrench and drip pan and do it yourself.

The car does come with a warranty. This myth that ferraris just fall apart and every oil change is thousands and thousands of dollars is crazy. A modern day ferrari is built to be as reliable as any other car. Does it cost more to service than a honda? yeah. so does your benz/BMW.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Salerno713
a Kelleners M6 fully moded (headers, full exhaust, crank pulley, tune , and an intake) can probably make near 500rwhp.. My guess is hes spraying it.. Damn I love that car up top!

yeah....nos would do that
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Limb? Not even a nose bleed. 1st service and subsequent maintenance is limited to oil and fluids change. And if you don't want to spend $500-800 at the dealer get a wrench and drip pan and do it yourself.

The car does come with a warranty. This myth that ferraris just fall apart and every oil change is thousands and thousands of dollars is crazy. A modern day ferrari is built to be as reliable as any other car. Does it cost more to service than a honda? yeah. so does your benz/BMW.
I hadn't realized getting rid of the belts made them that much more efficient and saved you that much more money on service. Good news
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Akademiks
I hadn't realized getting rid of the belts made them that much more efficient and saved you that much more money on service. Good news
LOL, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
Ferrari maintenance is not for the faint-hearted, clutches with F1 trans have life spans 10K-20K area. That's a $5K-$6K expense.
Fluids need changing every 2 years and oil should be done yearly minimum and with your mileage anticipation. That's about a $450-600 cost/oil change. Full fluid change on a 430 is about $1600
I’m not even going to mention CCB.
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