Akademiks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9NPY...eature=channel

WTF? Is it me or does the F430 sound like it's not being pushed all the way? There's no way a M6 can take on a Scuderia...

TMC M5

That is a Kelleners M6 with a laundry list of mods. I would like to see a rematch with a passenger added to the M6. I think a Dinan M6 Stroker would have a very hard time with Scuderia....so I am not exactly buying the results.

Tom

CWW

WTF? You guys weren't actually expecting a realistic result, were you? From a Gustav video?

Akademiks

So were going to accept the S65 vs. Carrera result, but we wont accept this one?

I realize it's a Gustav vid... but damn, if that M6 does beat the Scuderia then... damn... doesn't that mean it could run with an Enzo/LP640/Carrera GT

Zod

its not from him though
they guys in it are from an arab nation

also to be honest am impressed with the F car pulling so well and holding on till the magic speeds of the M show

if i am not mistaken a normal f430 can be beaten by a stage 2 55k so
lets not forget this is a striped out CAR, with a monster gear box that shift fast...maybe faster then the M's?!
respect to the M either way

MB_Forever

+1 the M6s are monsters at high speed I wouldn't be surprised if a modded M6 (especially one that is dialed in correctly) take on the 430 Scuderia

CWW

Well, see, Gustav and the M5Board crew aren't total fabricators...they're just 'selective' about it...

Their bias only really comes into play when there is a BMW involved...that's when you'll see the really ridiculous results come out. In a race with a Benz v. Porsche, then I do tend to believe them, because I haven't seen them ever try to slant anything that didn't involve a BMW. I don't think they'd spin a the 65 v. 997 race, because they don't have a horse in that race.

This vid is another story, because it involves a bimmer...so naturally, you can bet they picked the run out of probably 5-10 that made the bimmer look best. It could have lost 9 times and won 1, and we'd only ever see the 1...

Akademiks

Valid point, and I know exactly what you mean

Hammer Down

You do know that the Scuderia is not that much slower than the Enzo! The Enzo will win up top but in a 1/4 its close and not only til the one mile range does the gap start to widen. That M6 in that video has some power! My guess is that it has over 600hp!

Akademiks

I do know, hence why I said:

That's why this video is so shocking. Because the Scuderia is on par with the Enzo. And here's a rather unassuming M6 servin' it heat.

cte430

I don't care if the M6 could (legitimally) beat the Scud. going backwards - there ain't much choice as to what car i'd rather have.

Akademiks

I agree. M6 > F430. Whether or not it's faster, it is nice to know I wont have to fork out a fortune every time it needs a tune or a belt replaced.

TMC M5

Actually...the maintenance on the F430 is much more economical now that they have chain driven cams rather than the "old" belts. that was a huge cost on the old 360's and predecessors.

Tom

MikTrebla09

Hmm. I read that the other way around. hehe.


Nice vid.

Akademiks

Economical? From a Ferrari point-of-view, maybe. BMW replaces your brake pads/rotors for free under warranty; BMW in general has the most comprehensive warranty program out there, so I've heard. The brake job on a F430 with the Carbon Ceramic Rotors???? Well, it's not free... let's leave it at that.

TMC M5

Who said anything about carbon ceramic rotors??? Not if you are on a budget!!!

I had an E39 M5 and an Audi RS6 which both had free maintenance at the time (those were the days). The RS6 belt change would have been $4K if it wasn't covered under the maintenance program.

Tom

Akademiks

LOL, well if you were on a budget you wouldn't be looking at getting a Ferrari now would you?

BTW: RS6 = sex

I Like Soup

It just looks to me like the Ferrari let off at the end the way the M6 pulls away. No way an M6 pulls that hard past a Scuderia, even at speed.

Akademiks

And here's another one for the fearless M5 racing a 997 GT2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BrSq...e=channel_page

Notice the M5 starts to pull the GT2 in towards the end.

Carl Lassiter

I'm confused, in your first post you indicated incredulity that the M6 could win/hang?

I don't think this video seems unbelievable (apart from the first clip). The M6 is tuned, has a bigger engine and a power-train setup that'll let it hit 205mph stock. Also, the Scuderia is a track-biased car so is not optimized for straight-line runs, it may also create more drag at high speeds but not sure of the specs on this.

That being said, the way the M6 pulls in the first video clip does seem way too easy so it'd be good to have someone who was there confirm whether the Scud let up or not.

Now, bring up the infamous twisties and even the most ardent M-fanboys would have to hold up the white flag to one of those things. The Scud's no 599 in the straights but apparently they can lap faster than the Enzo on certain tracks.

I Like Soup

Yeah, I think that is a foregone conclusion and no M fans would step on those grounds.

The only track I've seen mention that the Scuderia is equal to an Enzo is at Ferrari's test track, a quicker point and shoot track. Open the track up a little, and the Enzo reigns supreme.

cte430

You read my comment the wrong way (or I wrote it the wrong way LOL). What I said was even if the M6 was faster than the scud with the M6 going backwards i wouldn't think twice about taking the scud.

And as someone else said there are no more belts in F cars.

Akademiks

Which limb are you giving up for your first service?

Vic55

You wrote it correctly.

LZH

The 348, 355 and 360 all required the engine to come out for a belt service....that was the main reason a simple service was so costly.