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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Some kind of seal in the interior of the supercharger broke that they basically can't get to = need whole new supercharger (think he told me preliminarily $4800 for new supercharger) Should be covered under mb extended warranty (chrysler). Find out more tomorrow.... you know, there is only a couple of more parts to replace and I think I'll have replaced everything Ok, back to my other comment, when this thing is outta warranty, I am gonna throw it away.....
It's all good since you're under warranty. Getting a new SC isn't a bad deal! When you're out of warranty, maybe it's time to purchase an extended warranty -- than to throw it away. If you throw it away, you won't get much for it. However if you keep it, and invest in a good warranty, then you save $$$ and can still have fun!
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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It's all good since you're under warranty. Getting a new SC isn't a bad deal! When you're out of warranty, maybe it's time to purchase an extended warranty -- than to throw it away. If you throw it away, you won't get much for it. However if you keep it, and invest in a good warranty, then you save $$$ and can still have fun!
Have the extended warranty.... (till bout 100k, 58k on OD now) don't think they make an extended extended warranty..... not bad if I do get new supercharger, just something else that shouldn't happen tho, and what if the stupid f***in' thing caught fire? ...... My friend already had an 03 CL55 that caught fire in his garage while it had been parked! It was totalled (and about 1/2 the garage, but nobody was hurt at least......) "electrical fire" - WTF? I've owned the car since Dec 07 and I've seriously put in about 10-15k in repairs, not including this..... and bout 96-97% of that was outta pocket...... **** like that just shouldn't happen, that's all. It isn't much fun if u ain't drivin' the stupid thing....

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Have the extended warranty.... (till bout 100k, 58k on OD now) don't think they make an extended extended warranty..... not bad if I do get new supercharger, just something else that shouldn't happen tho, and what if the stupid f***in' thing caught fire? ...... My friend already had an 03 CL55 that caught fire in his garage while it had been parked! It was totalled (and about 1/2 the garage, but nobody was hurt at least......) "electrical fire" - WTF? I've owned the car since Dec 07 and I've seriously put in about 10-15k in repairs, not including this..... and bout 96-97% of that was outta pocket...... **** like that just shouldn't happen, that's all. It isn't much fun if u ain't drivin' the stupid thing....
Who signed off on your AMG? Maybe its time to fire off a letter go MB Germany. J/k!
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Who signed off on your AMG? Maybe its time to fire off a letter go MB Germany. J/k!
Push them buttons ****er! Well, now you might understand a little more about why I'm pissed off at the whole thing, cuz you would be too..... Seriously tho, at this point, its gettin' a little ridiculous, and safety is definitely nothing to laugh about...... and it hasn't been confirmed (yet, although is should) that the supercharger WILL BE covered. Think I got a lemon or just have the absolute worst luck in the world..... (note 2 self: never buy 1st year production of any car ever again....)
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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....and idk who signed off on it, cuz I can't go look right now, cuz the stupid thing ain't here, cuz I gotta get a new supercharger, cuz the supercharger seally thingy blew, cuz..... and on and on
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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....and idk who signed off on it, cuz I can't go look right now, cuz the stupid thing ain't here, cuz I gotta get a new supercharger, cuz the supercharger seally thingy blew, cuz..... and on and on
Is your car pullied?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Is your car pullied?
sure is.... same pulley a bunch of members have..... VRP 575 package (no throttle body yet): 178mm (or 180mm not sure) VRP pulley (1st generation= whole new pulley, not modified stock), Powerchip tune with latest update, VRP shorties, 2ndary cat delete, 3" straight pipes axle back, PTE thermo, Air filters, VRP spacers...... that's it engine wise. You know, on a totally unrelated topic, I wonder why Mercedes doesn't make supercharged cars anymore......

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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sure is.... same pulley a bunch of members have..... VRP 575 package (no throttle body yet): 178mm (or 180mm not sure) VRP pulley (1st generation= whole new pulley, not modified stock), Powerchip tune with latest update, VRP shorties, 2ndary cat delete, 3" straight pipes axle back, PTE thermo, Air filters, VRP spacers...... that's it engine wise. You know, on a totally unrelated topic, I wonder why Mercedes doesn't make supercharged cars anymore......
Screw the rest of that nonsense, just pray they don't deny your warranty claim since the car is pullied bro.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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..... and to be honest, that 10-15k that I've had to spend included ABC pump (non engine, bout 3500) and my Nav unit quit (4 or 5k for refurb unit, something like 7 or 8k for new unit). I had a crappy aftermarket warranty from the people I bought the car from and none of this was covered..... therefore I just said "**** it" and got a whole new system put in for about the same price as the new unit would have cost..... engine wise, all I can remember at the moment is: on the top pulley the bearings were fried (like 800, kinda strange thing to happen), needed new belt tensioner (forgot how much that was, but fairly common) and now the supercharger (common? don't know but this is a pretty big deal)...... but countless sensors and switches and all sorts of other crap..... now that I think about it, might be closer to 20k that I've spent including the cost of the warranty.... mercedes doesn't need to sell new cars with customers like me...... I might start posting in the new c class forum cuz I've driven their stupid loaner courtesy car about 1/3 as much as I've driven the CL55.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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Screw the rest of that nonsense, just pray they don't deny your warranty claim since the car is pullied bro.
Luckily, have an outstanding relationship with mercedes (wonder why?) and it's all good.... besides, the stock pulley is on there....

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Now this thread is getting me a bit worried. I wonder if the SC blew up prematurely due to the 180mm pulley he had. The 180mm increases the SC several thousand RPMs I think. Can someone chime in on this?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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Now this thread is getting me a bit worried. I wonder if the SC blew up prematurely due to the 180mm pulley he had. The 180mm increases the SC several thousand RPMs I think. Can someone chime in on this?
If that was the case, I think this would have happened to someone else already..... has this happened to anyone else? But like I said, if the superchargers were working for mercedes (and they didn't have any issues) why would they get rid of them? I'm thinking this is not an absolutely uncommon occurrence..... and who would make a supercharger that you can't get to (and repair) a seal or gasket if it breaks...... or is this the same for ALL superchargers?

Further........ It's my daily driver...... I don't track it, never been down the quarter mile, floor it maybe twice a week..... I really don't abuse this thing...... if anything, I probably would be accused of babying the stupid thing...... starting to think I just got a lemon (got the ride @ 36k miles, who knows what happened/ how it was treated before then)....... little background...... car was a used car, previously 5 owners, was an auction car, carfax didn't report accident, but rear trunk has been replaced and slight overspray is noticeably on the rubber seals..... (when I did the audio install, I found out I had a trunk from an 06 CL55)..... car obviously took a hit in the rear...... but no front damage (that I or anyone else could "notice")...... starting to think "lemon"..... don't know much about the lemon laws (time probably has already passed)...... but that is my honest opinion..... 03 CL55s have problems..... period. Especially mine. When they've been in an accident..... worse. And even before I bought the thing (or my friend bought his that caught on fire and he had NO MODS at all) I knew and he knew that these cars specifically were known for "problems"..... specifically "electrical problems" but problems none-the-less..... (then he got in one, then I got in one, then we both luved 'em.... for a minute)..... his caught fire.... now he has an 06 M5, and I'm not really too mad at him..... and I'm having all sorts of issues. To end this little tirade, that being said, I'm sure (and know of) plenty of others who have not had any problems with their cars and have a lot more miles than me..... Unfortunately, mbworld is still yet a small sampling of AMG drivers, and who knows how many/what kind of issues there have been with this car..... All I know is I'm on the CL55 board today and almost any question (other than mine) not involving a newer CL63 involves some sort of "problem".... and, like I said, our superchargers did not make the cut for the next generation AMG for whatever reason.

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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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If I ever get Robert Bosch between the crosshairs of a Zeiss 20X backed with a 7MM mag round, I may be able to fix alot of the common problems in our cars.... so much overengineering with a suite of sensors wires that boggle the minds of the engineers who created the F-22. And too damn many Bosch components that we are constantly having to change out or repair(like the SBC system!)

I questioned earlier if there was a service internal in our Lysholm blowers as most blower mfgs recommend that gear oil be changed every 50K-100K miles. Not to say that this caused the problem in this case. That said, I cannot believe that they said they cannot get to the damaged seal. There has gotta be some shops around here that can rebuild a Lysholm. Perhaps Vadim or some other knowledgeable folks in the performance world can point you in the right direction. I am really questioning if the seal is the only problem. When you took the car in, was the blower still turning freely? If so, your rotors (screws) may be fine so long as the rotor to rotor seal and clearancing is okay and the blower can be disassembled to access the blown out seal. My guess is that the service techs were clueless as to how to work on the Lysholm. It's really a mechanically simple piece of equipment and the seal could probably be picked up at your local industrial supply shop. I've been searching for schematics on the net but to no avail as of yet as to the design of the Lysholm.

As for the warranty coverage, the stealership may well call out the fact that it is modified. If that is the case, the dealer is required under provisions of the Magnusson-Moss Act (Federal Trade Commission, 1975) to show that the damage was caused by the aftermarket components that you added to the engine, effectively voiding warranty work. I would begin by questioning why the supercharger seal was not accessible. I find that very hard to believe. To simply pull the blower off and not disassemble it to find the damaged component is pretty much representative of the half-@$$ work I see many dealers doing....

Keep us updated!

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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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Once you get more details on the supercharger, you might give Mike at Whipple Superchargers a call. He used to sell Lysholm superchargers back in the day before having a falling out with them and he would be more knowledgeable on the inner workings of these superchargers. My guess is he could better advise you as to repair of your supercharger vs. having to go out and buy a new one. The number to his shop is: (559) 442-1261

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Originally Posted by jicl55
If that was the case, I think this would have happened to someone else already..... has this happened to anyone else? But like I said, if the superchargers were working for mercedes (and they didn't have any issues) why would they get rid of them? I'm thinking this is not an absolutely uncommon occurrence..... and who would make a supercharger that you can't get to (and repair) a seal or gasket if it breaks...... or is this the same for ALL superchargers?

Further........ It's my daily driver...... I don't track it, never been down the quarter mile, floor it maybe twice a week..... I really don't abuse this thing...... if anything, I probably would be accused of babying the stupid thing...... starting to think I just got a lemon (got the ride @ 36k miles, who knows what happened/ how it was treated before then)....... little background...... car was a used car, previously 5 owners, was an auction car, carfax didn't report accident, but rear trunk has been replaced and slight overspray is noticeably on the rubber seals..... (when I did the audio install, I found out I had a trunk from an 06 CL55)..... car obviously took a hit in the rear...... but no front damage (that I or anyone else could "notice")...... starting to think "lemon"..... don't know much about the lemon laws (time probably has already passed)...... but that is my honest opinion..... 03 CL55s have problems..... period. Especially mine. When they've been in an accident..... worse. And even before I bought the thing (or my friend bought his that caught on fire and he had NO MODS at all) I knew and he knew that these cars specifically were known for "problems"..... specifically "electrical problems" but problems none-the-less..... (then he got in one, then I got in one, then we both luved 'em.... for a minute)..... his caught fire.... now he has an 06 M5, and I'm not really too mad at him..... and I'm having all sorts of issues. To end this little tirade, that being said, I'm sure (and know of) plenty of others who have not had any problems with their cars and have a lot more miles than me..... Unfortunately, mbworld is still yet a small sampling of AMG drivers, and who knows how many/what kind of issues there have been with this car..... All I know is I'm on the CL55 board today and almost any question (other than mine) not involving a newer CL63 involves some sort of "problem".... and, like I said, our superchargers did not make the cut for the next generation AMG for whatever reason.
The car has had 5 owners and you're #6 ????????
That makes it a different owner every year!
There has got to be some history about your car.
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Any updates on the car? I'd be very surprise if the Lysholm wasn't repairable, given that it didn't sound like a catastrophic failure.
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The car has had 5 owners and you're #6 ????????
That makes it a different owner every year!
There has got to be some history about your car.
+1 Five dollar hookers get passed around less than that
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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+1 Five dollar hookers get passed around less than that
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Any updates on the car? I'd be very surprise if the Lysholm wasn't repairable, given that it didn't sound like a catastrophic failure.
Ditto, it is just a question of MB not offering the seal and the techs probably not having the experience to install it anyway. If you pulled the SC and took it to a very skilled tech that knows SC assemblies, you could probably find a substitute seal and fix it. For MB, it is easier to simply replace an assembly once things got complicated...no wonder our cars cost so much.
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The car has had 5 owners and you're #6 ????????
That makes it a different owner every year!
There has got to be some history about your car.
Wow...!! looks like everyone want to get their hand on this car include their mother......It would be nice to check all the records before picking up this beast...
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I understand that the factory warranty might cover the supercharger. I just checked my owners manual in the service and warranty book, 7 years and 70k miles. Its part of the emission related components, under Air induction system also the supercharger bypass valve. The cats and the ECM have 8 year/ 80k. I know I have had a turbo charger replaced under the federal extended requirements. Damage due to Alterations is not covered? I may not be understanding this book, and it is for a 2006, but its worth looking into.
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Indeed, educate yourself as much you can on this issue..I know when I've picked up my car I had to literately read almost the whole manuals that come with the car. Had to be familiar with everything.
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