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20" Monarch Euro 63RS rear caliper clearance Question

Old Apr 23, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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20" Monarch Euro 63RS rear caliper clearance Question

He guys and girls,

I just had my wheels deliverd this morning and had a look at the rear wheel fitment and i dont like what i see, i have under 1mm clearance between the rim and the caliper, if i was to buy 3mm spacers would i have any problems with the hubcentric side of things, meaning will i get any vibration caused by using the 3mm spacers, they come with a 5 mm spacer but i dont think i want to use them as they cause the wheel to have no engagement into the hub at all, I love the look of them but i hate having to use spacers.

someone please tell me that i will be ok if i use 3mm spacers, and where can i get some decent ones.

thanks in advance

Scott
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AUS-E55
He guys and girls,

I just had my wheels deliverd this morning and had a look at the rear wheel fitment and i dont like what i see, i have under 1mm clearance between the rim and the caliper, if i was to buy 3mm spacers would i have any problems with the hubcentric side of things, meaning will i get any vibration caused by using the 3mm spacers, they come with a 5 mm spacer but i dont think i want to use them as they cause the wheel to have no engagement into the hub at all, I love the look of them but i hate having to use spacers.

someone please tell me that i will be ok if i use 3mm spacers, and where can i get some decent ones.

thanks in advance

Scott
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I put my set on last week. I had anticipated this issue, so I ordered a set of 3mm and 5mm with longer bolts for each size. I ended up using the 5mm spacers because the wheel is more flush with the fender. I have no vibration or issues at all. I order all of my spacers and wheel bolts from All Springs.

www.allsprings.com
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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I would order the 3mm if you are concerned about them being hub centric as the 3mm will allow it to bite on the center hub a little more then the 5mm's would

However the 3mm are slightly more expensive at $65 a pair, the 5mm's are $47 a pair.

Longer Bolts are $2.50 a bolt.

Let me know if you need a set.

James
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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It sucks when wheels you buy don't really fit the car right without the need for spacers and adapters. I get that wheel assemblers try to do as close as possible to a one design fits all approach with offsets, but if you end up not being fully hubcentric by adding spacers, plan on living with unwanted vibration.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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I used mine without a rear spacer, however once I got my calipers painted, the clearance was null, and so I went with a 3mm spacer and it was just fine.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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I have them on my ride right now, without spacers, and haven't had any issues out back.... I will let you know if it changes though (it's been only 3-4 days so far).
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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I run the 3mm spacers for the rear. They sit perfect.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AUS-E55
He guys and girls,

I just had my wheels deliverd this morning and had a look at the rear wheel fitment and i dont like what i see, i have under 1mm clearance between the rim and the caliper, if i was to buy 3mm spacers would i have any problems with the hubcentric side of things, meaning will i get any vibration caused by using the 3mm spacers, they come with a 5 mm spacer but i dont think i want to use them as they cause the wheel to have no engagement into the hub at all, I love the look of them but i hate having to use spacers.

someone please tell me that i will be ok if i use 3mm spacers, and where can i get some decent ones.

thanks in advance

Scott
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Let me know if you need the 3mm spacers, since I have a set that I didn't use.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Thanks for the great advice guys i feel a **** load better about my purchase now, I went ahead and bought set of 5mm and a set of 3mm spacers and a set of longer bolts All springs as G Man suggested, thanks Mate !! I'm hoping to be able to get everything installed, a star drop and a wheel alignment done before next weekend as we have a very big cruise down to Galveston and I want the car to be ready for that,

Thanks again for the help.

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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by G Man
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Let me know if you need the 3mm spacers, since I have a set that I didn't use.
G Man, are your 3mm spacers up for sale? I am not currently running spacers, but just in case...... Thanks!
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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G Man, are your 3mm spacers up for sale? I am not currently running spacers, but just in case...... Thanks!
$65 shipped. Let me know.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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$65 shipped. Let me know.
wtf so expensive! You dont need hubcentric spacers, the 3mm will still keep your wheels hubcentric. I'd ship you mine out for free if I was sure I would never need them, but you never know when I might need em..
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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wtf so expensive! You dont need hubcentric spacers, the 3mm will still keep your wheels hubcentric. I'd ship you mine out for free if I was sure I would never need them, but you never know when I might need em..
Here's what I paid...still new in the box. These are not hubcentric, as the need to be at least 10mm for hubcentric construction.

1- Mercedes H&R Wheel Spacers DR 3mm 5x112- $65.50
Subtotal $65.50
Sales Tax $0.00
1- Shipping - $9.10

Total $74.60

I would order the 3mm if you are concerned about them being hub centric as the 3mm will allow it to bite on the center hub a little more then the 5mm's would

However the 3mm are slightly more expensive at $65 a pair, the 5mm's are $47 a pair.

Longer Bolts are $2.50 a bolt.

Let me know if you need a set.

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Apparently, the price is correct.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Godfather
wtf so expensive! You dont need hubcentric spacers, the 3mm will still keep your wheels hubcentric. I'd ship you mine out for free if I was sure I would never need them, but you never know when I might need em..
Yeah, Godfather, I like free a lot better than $65
But I understand you may need yours down the line, so no dice....
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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How much for these rims anyhow?
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Hey,

I am the largest distributor for Monarch and I personally own a 2006 E55. I had the RS wheels with et42 offset in the rear with no spacers and it worked just fine!
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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I fitted the rear wheels without a spacer and I had 0.65 mm clearence, for me personally I am not prepaired to roll the dice, maybe you have a little more clearence ? so i have bought some 3mm spacers as recomended but havent had a chance to fit them up yet. That will be monday as i get my Vredesteins.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Old May 4, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AUS-E55
I fitted the rear wheels without a spacer and I had 0.65 mm clearence, for me personally I am not prepaired to roll the dice, maybe you have a little more clearence ? so i have bought some 3mm spacers as recomended but havent had a chance to fit them up yet. That will be monday as i get my Vredesteins.
Yes its really close!!!! but it doesnt touch. I ripped the car took turns and drifted it and it didnt touch LOL. Vredesteins are a good choice to go!!
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Old May 4, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Yes its really close!!!! but it doesnt touch. I ripped the car took turns and drifted it and it didnt touch LOL. Vredesteins are a good choice to go!!
What do you currently have on your E55? Are those Mandrus Mannheims?
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Old May 4, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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What do you currently have on your E55? Are those Mandrus Mannheims?
No, those are the triple 5-spoke wheels that he sells as well. They're called Hamburg...a knock-off of the stock SL63 wheel, but with a stainless lip. I just got a set of those and put them on an SL500...they are equally as beautiful as the 63RS wheel. I was almost re-thinking myself when i saw the Hamburgs in person.

Warren told me they have more caliper clearance than the RS wheel for the E55 as well.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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i hope their hubcentric..
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Old May 5, 2009 | 02:50 AM
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Yes its really close!!!! but it doesnt touch. I ripped the car took turns and drifted it and it didnt touch LOL. Vredesteins are a good choice to go!!
correct, if it clears it will stay cleared...

i have a few buddies that can only pass a credit card in between the caliper and wheel and they are fine.....even driving in bumpy roads in SF, it's still fine
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Old May 11, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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I've had the 20s on for about a week.

My rear clearance is 0.5mm
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Old May 11, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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What do you currently have on your E55? Are those Mandrus Mannheims?

they are 20" Monarch Hamburgs. 20 by 8.5 and 20 by 10
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