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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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E63 vs CLS55 ...

Both have about 1 year left on warranty.

The E63 is a 2007 with 30K miles. Has a minor nick on rear bumper and keyed door (about 2-3")

The CLS 55AMG is a mint 2006, CPO 33K miles. 030 package.

Both are optioned about the same other than the 030 package. (The E63 has navigation p1 and p2 packages.)

Which would you prefer and why?

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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JustPete
Both have about 1 year left on warranty.

The E63 is a 2007 with 30K miles. Has a minor nick on rear bumper and keyed door (about 2-3")

The CLS 55AMG is a mint 2006, CPO 33K miles. 030 package.

Both are optioned about the same other than the 030 package. (The E63 has navigation p1 and p2 packages.)

Which would you prefer and why?

Thanks.
CLS55 FTW...

- lower miles per year on average.
- CPO
- 030 package (a big positive)
- to some a more attractive looking vehicle
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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CLS55 FTW...

- lower miles per year on average.
- CPO
- 030 package (a big positive)
- to some a more attractive looking vehicle
Can you tell me about the 030 package? I know it's a limited slip differential and it's got a delimit on the 155 governor to 186 (Like I can use that here in the USA ... bummer) And suspension is supposed to be more performance oriented (But seeing as how these are air suspensions ... isn't that just some programming???)
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Uh oh, now we are going to have a fight between the CLS and E boys...
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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NAH .... let's not fight about it!

I just want to know the pros and cons of the E vs the CLS.

To be honest ... I'm not 100% sold on the looks of the CLS where as I LOVE the look of the E63.

But that's because I've never seen a CLS and it's one of those things that, like a good song, you might not like it at first, but then you grow to really love it.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Just some pics and video in motion...
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Originally Posted by AMGfan

- lower miles per year on average.
- CPO
- 030 package (a big positive)
- to some a more attractive looking vehicle
+1

And plus...it's easier to make power in the 55K motor then the 63 motor.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JustPete
NAH .... let's not fight about it!

I just want to know the pros and cons of the E vs the CLS.

To be honest ... I'm not 100% sold on the looks of the CLS where as I LOVE the look of the E63.

But that's because I've never seen a CLS and it's one of those things that, like a good song, you might not like it at first, but then you grow to really love it.
The E63 has a little more room, and will likely be more functional. The CLS has more of an exotic look. It carries a higher status than the E. However, the back area is not as roomy, and some have complained that the rear windows are too small, which creates more blind spots. In terms of engines, the 55 will be a lot cheaper and easier to mod than the 63. For example, you can probably extract 120 hp out of the 55 engine with just simple bolt-ons for $6k to $7k while you can only extract about 50 hp for the same amount of money on the 63.

However, the 63 is a great engine. It is by no means torquless or "have no torque" as many tend to believe. The torque output is no where near as low as on the M5/M6s. In fact, the 63 engine has a lot of torque. It offers a happy medium between brute low-end "torqy" engines and very strong top-end engines. A stock E63 will "easily" hang with a stock E55 down below and will definitely hang with a stock M5/M6 at high speeds. It's kind of a medium-range engine. It's not as strong as the E55 in terms of low-end torque, but will still hang with it in the 1/4 mile. And it's not as strong in the top-end range as the M5/M6, but will still hang with it in high speed runs. You get the best of both worlds

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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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I love the look of the CLS as very sleek and distinctive. Those fantastic lines come with the tradeoff of less usable space and more difficult ingress/egress, though. Putting aside the issue of 55 vs. 63, I'd probably go with the CLS on looks alone.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Right now I'm leaning towards the CLS 55AMG.

If the deal goes through with my trade ... by this afternoon I'll own it.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Did you get it? CLS55 030 is AWESOME!!!
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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I did ... Overall the car is beautiful.

Test drive was solid .... Didn't really floor it , but a 3/4 throttle run on the highway and she definitely pulls like a beast.

I have to admit I a little disappointed in the quality of the stereo. The dealer which is mediocre at best.

Do these not come with the same stereo that's standard in the E55?

The display says Logic7

The Sticker says Standard Radio
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JustPete
I did ... Overall the car is beautiful.

Test drive was solid .... Didn't really floor it , but a 3/4 throttle run on the highway and she definitely pulls like a beast.

I have to admit I a little disappointed in the quality of the stereo. The dealer which is mediocre at best.

Do these not come with the same stereo that's standard in the E55?

The display says Logic7

The Sticker says Standard Radio
Congratulations!!! The CLS55 AMG 030 is an awesome car. Don't worry, the stereo in the E55/E63 suck just as much. If you want, there is a company called Reus Audio that specializes in updating all Mercedes Stereos to sound amazing. They will come to you. Do a search on the forum and you will find their information. You have a very rare and amazing car. You definitely made the right choice. Enjoy!!!!
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by france2112
Congratulations!!! The CLS55 AMG 030 is an awesome car. Don't worry, the stereo in the E55/E63 suck just as much. If you want, there is a company called Reus Audio that specializes in updating all Mercedes Stereos to sound amazing. They will come to you. Do a search on the forum and you will find their information. You have a very rare and amazing car. You definitely made the right choice. Enjoy!!!!
Thanks ... I'm pretty excited about it.

I'm still not sure what I gain with the 030 package ... no one seems to know the details of this package at the dealer . Just that it supposedly has it.

Is there a way to tell for sure that it exists on the car?
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JustPete
Thanks ... I'm pretty excited about it.

I'm still not sure what I gain with the 030 package ... no one seems to know the details of this package at the dealer . Just that it supposedly has it.

Is there a way to tell for sure that it exists on the car?
  • car will have different rims
  • bigger drilled/sloted brakes
  • different steering wheel
  • higher top speed
  • and an LSD
  • also belive the suspention is a little lower
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Zod
  • car will have different rims
  • bigger drilled/sloted brakes
  • different steering wheel
  • higher top speed
  • and an LSD
  • also belive the suspention is a little lower

Here's a pic from the dealer site ... what do you think?














Can this stereo be upgraded as is. I've read there's a way to upgrade it's performance without changing this head unit in the car?

Also curious how many speakers does this "standard" radio have?
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Congrats very nice ride. The steering wheel says P30 loud and clear. Enjoy your new ride.
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Originally Posted by JustPete
Right now I'm leaning towards the CLS 55AMG.

If the deal goes through with my trade ... by this afternoon I'll own it.
I'd get it just for the simple fact that, now correct me if I am wrong but isn't 2006 the only year for the CLS55? If so, you will have a car in which you may see a CLS500,550 or CLS63 but you won't see to many CLS55's......

just my .55
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Congratulations, that is one fine CLS 55 and looks to me like the 030 wheels, Steering Wheel, ect.
Do you have a large version of that pic? Only a thumbnail will come up?

Also ... per our other discussion, can you tell me if there's a way to find out if they "de-tuned" the car?
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I'd get it just for the simple fact that, now correct me if I am wrong but isn't 2006 the only year for the CLS55? If so, you will have a car in which you may see a CLS500,550 or CLS63 but you won't see to many CLS55's......

just my .55
Yes ... I believe that's correct. Someone in another forum told me the same.
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Originally Posted by JustPete
Here's a pic from the dealer site ... what do you think?




Can this stereo be upgraded as is. I've read there's a way to upgrade it's performance without changing this head unit in the car?

Also curious how many speakers does this "standard" radio have?
Congratulations, that is one fine CLS 55 and looks to me like the 030 wheels, Steering Wheel, ect.

BTW what source are you using for testing the audio quality?
The bit rate from Sat SIRI is super low quality.
Attachment 155433
Sorry I'll try to find the file, this is the thumb,
As I recall 10 speakers plus two for hands free phone.
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
Congratulations, that is one fine CLS 55 and looks to me like the 030 wheels, Steering Wheel, ect.

BTW what source are you using for testing the audio quality?
The bit rate from Sat SIRI is super low quality.
Attachment 155433
Sorry I'll try to find the file, this is the thumb,
As I recall 10 speakers plus two for hands free phone.
Just my ears ... output is mediocre at best before it begins to break up. And the balance in highs and lows is not very good either. Bass is non existent.

Do these cars come standard with subs?
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Hey guys ... also, just out of curiosity what's your opinion on extending the CPO?

The car is factory warrantied until January 2010. Then Certified up to 100,000 mile until 2011 in the deal.

They offered me addition 1 or 2 years.

1year to 2012 for $2100+

2years to 2013 for 2850.

I was told these prices come from Mercedes and are non negotiable (Everything is negotiable IMO)

Do these rates sound reasonable and would you do it.

Supposedly, because I'm a repeat Mercedes customer I get a $700 discount.

Thanks

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Do you have a large version of that pic? Only a thumbnail will come up?

Also ... per our other discussion, can you tell me if there's a way to find out if they "de-tuned" the car?
Sorry I guess I lost that file, anyway the dealer can run the VIN and give you the compleete service History, I forget the number but the wordage is Secondary Air Injection Pump. If you see that it means the car was flashed.
There are many tuners ie. Renntech, Kleenman, VRP, LET, EvoTech tat can get you fixed up, the biggest gain on the tune comes with a pulley. Ok now you'll be search, read, drive for the next month..
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