Intake setup
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Intake setup
How many guys here would be interested in purchasing a affordable intake tube similar to the fangs? I plan on talking with 034 Motorsport here in the Bay Area and working with them on developing something. I will use my car as the Ginni pig in developing this. They have their own dyno in house and have engineers on site that could help with the design. I will definitely have before and after numbers to see if it's really worth the money. They haven't worked on many Mercedes but have done a ton of other imports. It's just a thought and I'm getting tired of waiting for one. If anyone has any input on whether this is a waste of time or not please feel free to voice your opinion.
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I have a few ideas for an intake as well. I just haven't found the time to get this project off the ground yet. I hope your comes out good though!
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Maybe you'll get yours done first and see good results. I'll be talking with some of the guys at 034 Motorsports to see what they have in mind. They seem very knowledgable and have their own dyno. I will post results regardless, good or bad. They have developed some very fast street cars and I'm really curious to see what they can do. This weekend I'll be talking with a coupld of their guys.
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Nice! It sounds promising.
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I'm interested
I'd definitely be game as this is one of the first mods I'd like to do to my engine.
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I recently completed my own home brewed CAI w/Foam Cones/Dremeled the hell outt've the innards, made excellent SOTP difference @ high speeds + Turbo wastegate sounds incredible.
Was wondering what the rest of you power fiends thought of wrapping the underside of airboxes/tubes w/this REAL Carbon Fiber tape (obvious insulation from heat) or is it a waste? http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...bon+Fiber+Tape
Alan, a Fang type of CAI design will be awseome especially if you add the Foam Cones I used, they flow much better than Cotton K&N's your Blower whine will be intense
Was wondering what the rest of you power fiends thought of wrapping the underside of airboxes/tubes w/this REAL Carbon Fiber tape (obvious insulation from heat) or is it a waste? http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...bon+Fiber+Tape
Alan, a Fang type of CAI design will be awseome especially if you add the Foam Cones I used, they flow much better than Cotton K&N's your Blower whine will be intense
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2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
I recently completed my own home brewed CAI w/Foam Cones/Dremeled the hell outt've the innards, made excellent SOTP difference @ high speeds + Turbo wastegate sounds incredible.
Was wondering what the rest of you power fiends thought of wrapping the underside of airboxes/tubes w/this REAL Carbon Fiber tape (obvious insulation from heat) or is it a waste? http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...bon+Fiber+Tape
Alan, a Fang type of CAI design will be awseome especially if you add the Foam Cones I used, they flow much better than Cotton K&N's your Blower whine will be intense![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
Was wondering what the rest of you power fiends thought of wrapping the underside of airboxes/tubes w/this REAL Carbon Fiber tape (obvious insulation from heat) or is it a waste? http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...bon+Fiber+Tape
Alan, a Fang type of CAI design will be awseome especially if you add the Foam Cones I used, they flow much better than Cotton K&N's your Blower whine will be intense
![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
I tired looking on the WEST SYSTEMS website to see if the CF tape provides insulation against heat, could not find anything. But I like your idea of wrapping the air boxes and tubes.
This may also work, but i like the CF look better
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Desig...QQcmdZViewItem
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PICS of you set up please.
I tired looking on the WEST SYSTEMS website to see if the CF tape provides insulation against heat, could not find anything. But I like your idea of wrapping the air boxes and tubes.
This may also work, but i like the CF look better
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Desig...QQcmdZViewItem
I tired looking on the WEST SYSTEMS website to see if the CF tape provides insulation against heat, could not find anything. But I like your idea of wrapping the air boxes and tubes.
This may also work, but i like the CF look better
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Desig...QQcmdZViewItem
I have a really interesting quote I found from the Manufacturers site on WHY the Foam Filters feel so cool to touch even after long periods of driving & DO NOT get heat soaked vs K&N's Cotton folded variants (K&N's get heat soaked like the rest of your oem or after market airbox, try my little test: go drive around for 20 min pull your K&N/Green/AFE/BMC filters out or just touch them
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Therefore it is important that our Filters do not get heatsoak to block the cold Front. That is why the Ram-Filter doesn't use metal. Other types of Filters utilize metal screen to hold the paper/ cotton & they create a Hot Front the opposite of our positive effect. In many applications the Ram-Filter doesn't require any extra shielding since it doesn't absorb heat at the cone.
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I realize the OEM filters kept that debris @ bay before entering engine, but that's too close for comfort + obvious that trapped extra Sand/Rocks/Dirt are majorly cloging further airflow up VS Cone-Foam filters mounted on the outside of airboxes eliminating ANY heavy debris like that from ever entering the airbox system altogether.
Info from their site on Air filteration:
The composition of our poly foam filters is a series of tiny interlocking cells of uniform size without straight through passageways, that create an impossible journey for dirt particles. Each passageway is like hundreds of very small cells connected one to another. The cell strands stop the dirt, while the oil film holds the dirt like fly paper until removed when the filter is cleaned. This is why foam filters are referred to as "full depth" filters. Foam filters are over 12 times thicker than paper or gauze elements, which are screens, or "surface type" filters. Because foam is a full depth filter even as dirt is being stopped, airflow can continue at a high rate by simply going around the trapped dirt. Unlike paper and gauze filters, foam filters will continue to perform well as the filter gets dirty. With its lifetime warranty these filters are washable and reusable to give any automobile a lifetime of great filtration and performance.
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On my SL600, I didn't need to use their extra supplied metal tubes (I'm betting nearly all forced induction models wont either, I didn't find my model MB on Ebay when I ordered so I just bought the SL55 kit, it fits like a glove) link to the "Bay" http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...Q5fAccessories
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Info from their site on Air filteration:
They have a kit for pretty much every model MB http://www.ram-filter.com/index.html Their site doesn't seem to be operating correctly, Sales of these items are found on Ebay $240 delivered
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On my SL600, I didn't need to use their extra supplied metal tubes (I'm betting nearly all forced induction models wont either, I didn't find my model MB on Ebay when I ordered so I just bought the SL55 kit, it fits like a glove) link to the "Bay" http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...Q5fAccessories
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Only time you'll draw hot air is while siting in traffic @ a standstill. Proof is in the perf & cool to the touch foam filters, even after a long trip to LA (mostly in traffic) the Foam filters were cool to touch vs touching the rest of the airbox or engine cover, if the foam filters were mostly drawing hot engine air the Filters would be scorching hot regardless of what their made of.
The pix from site show them mounted too far from OEM holes (I believe they did this for product exposure/show-off what your buying) the kit allows plenty of leeway/room to mash these Foam filters snugly against OEM holes.
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i would use this for heat insulation
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INSUL...3A1|240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INSUL...3A1|240%3A1318