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Old May 22, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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the new CTS V is a POS. The old CTS V is a POS. There I said it. If you want a POS American car that goes fast then go get a Corvette like I did. Why buy a 4 door POS from America like the CTS V? Get a Merc so you have a fine piece of machinery, then go get a Corvette so you get a cheap POS that goes fast. This concludes my lesson for the day.
This concludes you basking in ignorance, not intelligence.
Old May 22, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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I like to think Im not pretentious. I bought a Nissan, yes its a performer but at the end of the day its Nissan. And Id rather drive it over any Benz Ive owned (55's and 65), BMW (M3, M5, M6) but not over the 997TT.

I wonder how the CTS-V would sit? Bang for the buck, it has to be one of the best out there right? Good sedan handling, great power, modability???
Old May 22, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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I like to think Im not pretentious. I bought a Nissan, yes its a performer but at the end of the day its Nissan. And Id rather drive it over any Benz Ive owned (55's and 65), BMW (M3, M5, M6) but not over the 997TT.

I wonder how the CTS-V would sit? Bang for the buck, it has to be one of the best out there right? Good sedan handling, great power, modability???
Oh yes, definitely modable.
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Who really cares about the C300? There are a few MB's that come in a manual other than that. We are talking about the AMG vs. the CTS-V, which, once again, fact is Cadillac gives you the option and MB doesn't.
Ok, no need to get defensive. I thought you were making a generalazation. Your the person who said MB doesnt offer manual tranny. I just corrected you. Maybe, you should clarify what your saying. This is the internet in case you havent noticed.

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Old May 22, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Ok, no need to get defensive. I thought you were making a generalazation. Your the person who said MB doesnt offer manual tranny. I just corrected you. Maybe, you should clarify what your saying. This is the internet in case you havent noticed.
Um well what about the SL63 then?

100 mils to slow for a shift speed ?
Manual trannies are out; none of the top performing cars have them today it seems

note am not refering to u max ;p
Old May 22, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Ok, no need to get defensive. I thought you were making a generalazation. Your the person who said MB doesnt offer manual tranny. I just corrected you. Maybe, you should clarify what your saying. This is the internet in case you havent noticed.
I figured most people were intelligent enough to put it together that when discussing the CTS-V in the AMG forum, the comparison is between those TWO models not the entire model range of both manufacturers.

I thought the mentioning of the C300 by you was gettting defensive as it was quite obvious by your post you were drawing a comparison to the E55 with the auto tranny comment. I think the C300 being manual comment was designed to take attention away from the mistake you made, which I corrected.

I never said anything along the lines of mercedes has no manuals, I said Mercedes does not give you the option, which it DOES NOT with the AMG's. So what exactly are you correcting again?

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Old May 22, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Um well what about the SL63 then?

100 mils to slow for a shift speed ?
Manual trannies are out; none of the top performing cars have them today it seems

note am not refering to u max ;p
I suppose you have never heard of the ZR-1, Z06, GT3, GT2, F430, Gallardo, Ford GT, 911 turbo, or Viper ACR. Unless you don't consider those top performing?

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Old May 22, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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I can see why you're banned at M5board...too much shouting at ppl from behind the keyboard...
That was shouting? I can see you are sensitive.
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I might be wrong but I thought the SLK AMG had the manual option a few years back??

I think it was for non AMG's.
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Originally Posted by sticky2
I suppose you have never heard of the ZR-1, Z06, GT3, GT2, F430, Gallardo, Ford GT, 911 turbo, or Viper ACR. Unless you don't consider those top performing?
Old May 23, 2009 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sticky2
I figured most people were intelligent enough to put it together that when discussing the CTS-V in the AMG forum, the comparison is between those TWO models not the entire model range of both manufacturers.

I didn't know you had to be a mind reader to participate in an online forum discussion... regardless, your point is taken. Thanks for clearing that up.

I thought the mentioning of the C300 by you was gettting defensive as it was quite obvious by your post you were drawing a comparison to the E55 with the auto tranny comment. I think the C300 being manual comment was designed to take attention away from the mistake you made, which I corrected.

That couldn't be farther from the truth. I want an auto tranny. I can care less about the majority of row boat tranny's out there.

I never said anything along the lines of mercedes has no manuals, I said Mercedes does not give you the option, which it DOES NOT with the AMG's. So what exactly are you correcting again?
You didn't say "AMG's" either. You said "MB" Never assume.
Old May 23, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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You didn't say "AMG's" either. You said "MB" Never assume.
Pretty sure MB produces AMG's, don't they? Look, you didn't know the Caddy came in manual and auto, move on. Fairly obvious the comparison is between the AMG E's and the CTS-V, despite your attempt at saving face by bringing up a model MB does offer in manual... which is not an E AMG, now is it?
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Originally Posted by sticky2
I suppose you have never heard of the ZR-1, Z06, GT3, GT2, F430, Gallardo, Ford GT, 911 turbo, or Viper ACR. Unless you don't consider those top performing?
um if i am not mistaken...the lambos. P cars, F cars , M cars all perform better with the non manual trany...even the CTS V no ?
ill add an other one GTR and Formula 1

Manual trany seems to be phasing out from what I can see...

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Old May 23, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Old May 23, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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CTS-V(auto)-7:58:32

These are the official "Ring" times. It'll more then edge them out.
Exactly, the times don't lie....The CTS-V is an awesome machine, and I don't think its right to bash the interior considering many of the car magazines think its of top quality. I've sat and drove in one and it's actually a very nice interior, especially with the Recaro Racing seats. I think it's the chrome and unique shapes in the interior that present themselves in a different manner compared to a european car and in the end it's just a different style that people who drive european cars think is cheap. GM spent alot of time and money in creating that cabin, plus a Motortrend car of the year says alot.....
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when all is said and done....there are some cars that beat AMGs...but its a CADILLAC...IMHO from an E55 to a CTS-V is a major downgrade
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Exactly, the times don't lie....The CTS-V is an awesome machine, and I don't think its right to bash the interior considering many of the car magazines think its of top quality. I've sat and drove in one and it's actually a very nice interior, especially with the Recaro Racing seats. I think it's the chrome and unique shapes in the interior that present themselves in a different manner compared to a european car and in the end it's just a different style that people who drive european cars think is cheap. GM spent alot of time and money in creating that cabin, plus a Motortrend car of the year says alot.....
Please read the thread....those are *not* comparable times, so they DO lie.

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Pretty sure MB produces AMG's, don't they? Look, you didn't know the Caddy came in manual and auto, move on. Fairly obvious the comparison is between the AMG E's and the CTS-V, despite your attempt at saving face by bringing up a model MB does offer in manual... which is not an E AMG, now is it?
It's actually You that is trying to save face by your blanket statements and your notion that we are all mind readers so, we should "assume" that you only ment AMG's. News flash... You never said that. You said MB. That is back pedaling if I ever seen it... But, coming from a person who likes the taste of his own shoe. I am not surprised.


I already mentioned that I stand corrected about the CTS-V and it's tranny's... Does it bother me? No. Fact still remains the same... You made a generalization about MB automatic tranny's. You were corrected. End of story. No need to get all fussy about it. Just move on.
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Originally Posted by Max.H
It's actually You that is trying to save face by your blanket statements and your notion that we are all mind readers so, we should "assume" that you only ment AMG's. News flash... You never said that. You said MB. That is back pedaling if I ever seen it... But, coming from a person who likes the taste of his own shoe. I am not surprised.


I already mentioned that I stand corrected about the CTS-V and it's tranny's... Does it bother me? No. Fact still remains the same... You made a generalization about MB automatic tranny's. You were corrected. End of story. No need to get all fussy about it. Just move on.
Since you do not seem to know when you are beat, let me expound on it.

If AMG models do not offer a manual option, saying MB does not give you the option makes sense as MB produces AMG models doesn't it?

See, the issue is, even though obviously you were wrong you can't accept it. I made an accurate statement regarding transmission options regarding MB AMG models, namely the E class vs. the CTS-V.

How crazy, in the AMG W211 forum, when discussing the CTS-V IN COMPARISON, to mention MB does not give you a manual option. MERCEDES DOES NOT GIVE YOU A MANUAL OPTION. Does it need to be bold? Will it finally sink in?

When you made your comment about wishing it had an automatic what were you juxtaposing the CTS-V against? How long until you swallow your pride and realize you are way out of your element?

MB not offering a manual is not a negative or a positive, simply a fact in relation to the AMG models WE ARE DISCUSSING IN THIS FORUM.

You are done.
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um if i am not mistaken...the lambos. P cars, F cars , M cars all perform better with the non manual trany...even the CTS V no ?
ill add an other one GTR and Formula 1

Manual trany seems to be phasing out from what I can see...
No, they don't, you did not realize some of those cars only come in manual and I did not mention M cars.

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I'll be very careful how I word my responses to you as I don't want you to break into tears, knowing how much words typed on the internet seem to emotionally affect you.
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RE: 09 CTS-V

I've had my 09 CTS-V since January.

It is not a Benz, but aside from being delivered slightly out of alignment, has been completely trouble free. It is very fast, corners and stops like stink. I am very happy with it, particularly at it's price point. The car, drivetrain, suspension, and interior are all of high quality, and the electronics are super if one cares about such things.

I bought it because I saw it, test drove it and wanted it. I have not regretted that decison.

I'm still very much a Benz guy, am looking to add a W211 E63 to my garage, but suggest that you test drive the CTS-V and make your own decision.

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Originally Posted by sticky2
Since you do not seem to know when you are beat, let me expound on it.

If AMG models do not offer a manual option, saying MB does not give you the option makes sense as MB produces AMG models doesn't it?

See, the issue is, even though obviously you were wrong you can't accept it. I made an accurate statement regarding transmission options regarding MB AMG models, namely the E class vs. the CTS-V.

How crazy, in the AMG W211 forum, when discussing the CTS-V IN COMPARISON, to mention MB does not give you a manual option. MERCEDES DOES NOT GIVE YOU A MANUAL OPTION. Does it need to be bold? Will it finally sink in?

When you made your comment about wishing it had an automatic what were you juxtaposing the CTS-V against? How long until you swallow your pride and realize you are way out of your element?

MB not offering a manual is not a negative or a positive, simply a fact in relation to the AMG models WE ARE DISCUSSING IN THIS FORUM.

You are done.
That's redundant. Who cares who wins an argument about an automatic tranny that neither person has ... I'm just pointing out that you are very argumentative and that's why you get BANNED from practically EVERY MAJOR BMW FORUM. Even your own kind doesn't want you. Win? Win what? At arguing with everyone? LoL. That's no contest... You win that for sure.

Meanwhile back in the in real world...

Soooo, didn't you also say that you wanted to run me at the last famoso race??? So uhh, what happened? I thought you were going to show me what your m3 is going to do to my e55 . You even tried to call me out on 6speed . Funny, you never once lined up with me. What was your best time that day? 12.2-12.3?? After all that talk... It's a good thing you didn't line up. Because, Your m3 would have gotten destroyed. Have a Happy Memorial day. CHECK MATE.
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