Why are headers so much $$?
06-06-2009, 10:25 AM
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I'll be selling my 2 month old VRP shorty headers very soon, if anyone is interested. Direct bolt-on replacement for the E55 OEM manifolds.
06-06-2009, 02:27 PM
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As for the headers, let me figure it out and I'll give you a PM.
06-06-2009, 08:29 PM
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The reason why headers are so expensive is... Most headers are small production runs. when you think about Vette's and mustangs or even shopping at Costco. Buying in bulk i will most always lower the price. There are lots of Mustangs and Vettes out there versus the small amount of AMG's.
Small production runs are not very cost effective or lucrative for fabricators and its labor intensive. Jigs have to made and a whole bunch or R&D. Now doing this for the maybe 20 sets or so of AMG headers isnt that profitable when compared to the man hours it takes to make them.
Also Alot of headers for large production runs are sent over sea's to be duped for a much lesser cost. I deal alot with over sea's vendors in my family business and If I want 20 items made they wouldn't do it. Now if I wanted 200 or 500 items then they would do it pending on what it is.
If Mercedes were a dime a dozen like Vette's and mustangs in term or production numbers parts would be cheaper and their would be a lot of choices in terms of headers for your car.
Small production runs are not very cost effective or lucrative for fabricators and its labor intensive. Jigs have to made and a whole bunch or R&D. Now doing this for the maybe 20 sets or so of AMG headers isnt that profitable when compared to the man hours it takes to make them.
Also Alot of headers for large production runs are sent over sea's to be duped for a much lesser cost. I deal alot with over sea's vendors in my family business and If I want 20 items made they wouldn't do it. Now if I wanted 200 or 500 items then they would do it pending on what it is.
If Mercedes were a dime a dozen like Vette's and mustangs in term or production numbers parts would be cheaper and their would be a lot of choices in terms of headers for your car.
You clearly are lost, and do not belong here. Move along now, before you hurt someone with this sound reasoning.
06-07-2009, 01:06 AM
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. edit again: let's just move on, shall we? I think that's best since we're all friends again, and I have a beer waiting in Phoenix!
Nice. I guess my attempt at mocking *others* who post nonsense by pointing out how much sense hooleyboy actually made didn't go over very well. Sorry hooleyboy, I really did mean to indicate that your post made complete sense, and was mocking those posts that are similar to the "how do I look cool in my C63" rubbish.
Unfortunately, it looks like I exposed a very ugly side of this forum, and for that I am truly saddened.
And I guess I'll get banned soon, as well.
By all, it was fun while it lasted. All of 10 posts.
edit: "hate" wow.....
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06-07-2009, 01:35 AM
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i am amused,
"look at you, making perfect sense. You clearly are lost, and do not belong here. Move along now, before you hurt someone with this sound reasoning."
.......I also took this as being intended to be negative. Perhaps this is a product of seeing many instances where someone new will join the forum just to create trouble in the way of taunts and jibes.......
You are new and people here don't yet know you're "style" of posting so realize that this could be misinterpreted..
"look at you, making perfect sense. You clearly are lost, and do not belong here. Move along now, before you hurt someone with this sound reasoning."
.......I also took this as being intended to be negative. Perhaps this is a product of seeing many instances where someone new will join the forum just to create trouble in the way of taunts and jibes.......
You are new and people here don't yet know you're "style" of posting so realize that this could be misinterpreted..
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06-07-2009, 01:49 AM
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i am amused,
"look at you, making perfect sense. You clearly are lost, and do not belong here. Move along now, before you hurt someone with this sound reasoning."
.......I also took this as being intended to be negative. Perhaps this is a product of seeing instances where someone new will join the forum just to create trouble in the way of taunts and jibes.......
"look at you, making perfect sense. You clearly are lost, and do not belong here. Move along now, before you hurt someone with this sound reasoning."
.......I also took this as being intended to be negative. Perhaps this is a product of seeing instances where someone new will join the forum just to create trouble in the way of taunts and jibes.......
yep, I saw that you didn't "get it" either. That's fine, but at least you didn't go all "hate" on me.
I still don't "get it" about the "hate", I guess that makes us even?
if the admins don't "get it" either, I'm sure I'll be gone, but if they don't "get it" then I am on the wrong board anyway, so no harm done.
I joined to learn about care and maintenance of my vehicle, which I can do by reading the forums post-ban, or by visiting other MB sites.
oh well, it is what is it
*AND* I learned why MB headers are so expensive
06-07-2009, 04:46 AM
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yep, I saw that you didn't "get it" either. That's fine, but at least you didn't go all "hate" on me.
I still don't "get it" about the "hate", I guess that makes us even?
if the admins don't "get it" either, I'm sure I'll be gone, but if they don't "get it" then I am on the wrong board anyway, so no harm done.
I joined to learn about care and maintenance of my vehicle, which I can do by reading the forums post-ban, or by visiting other MB sites.
oh well, it is what is it
*AND* I learned why MB headers are so expensive
I still don't "get it" about the "hate", I guess that makes us even?
if the admins don't "get it" either, I'm sure I'll be gone, but if they don't "get it" then I am on the wrong board anyway, so no harm done.
I joined to learn about care and maintenance of my vehicle, which I can do by reading the forums post-ban, or by visiting other MB sites.
oh well, it is what is it
*AND* I learned why MB headers are so expensive
You are a tool. I think myself and Wawy are wondering what in the Hell are you talking about? If you came here to learn than sit back and shut up. There are lots of members on this board that know the ins and outs of your car. This isnt your old Honda forum so your smartass remarks should go the way of your last car. If you keep up your ways the Mods will ban you. If you want to know about service and maintenance ask your Service Advisor about an extended warranty.
06-07-2009, 07:47 AM
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You are a tool. I think myself and Wawy are wondering what in the Hell are you talking about? If you came here to learn than sit back and shut up. There are lots of members on this board that know the ins and outs of your car. This isnt your old Honda forum so your smartass remarks should go the way of your last car. If you keep up your ways the Mods will ban you. If you want to know about service and maintenance ask your Service Advisor about an extended warranty.
that's the second time you've played the "mods are going to ban me" card. I get it, ok?
I can tell it's not the old honda forum, because 100% of the posts there were oddly enough quite polite. I hadn't really noticed that until you bought up the old forum, but the difference is actually quite striking.
Look man, i really did not mean to offend you. Unfortunately, I have, and apparently more so than at any other time in your life. I meant to contrast your common sense reply with the idiocy that is not rare here (for instance: "would you have sex in your C63"), but obviously there is nothing that will convince you otherwise.
oh well. c'est la vie
to prevent any further damage, I'll put you on my ignore list so I won't have even an accidental opportunity to offend you further or again.
you have a nice day, and good luck with your business ventures.
06-07-2009, 08:50 AM
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that's the second time you've played the "mods are going to ban me" card. I get it, ok?
I can tell it's not the old honda forum, because 100% of the posts there were oddly enough quite polite. I hadn't really noticed that until you bought up the old forum, but the difference is actually quite striking.
Look man, i really did not mean to offend you. Unfortunately, I have, and apparently more so than at any other time in your life. I meant to contrast your common sense reply with the idiocy that is not rare here (for instance: "would you have sex in your C63"), but obviously there is nothing that will convince you otherwise.
oh well. c'est la vie
to prevent any further damage, I'll put you on my ignore list so I won't have even an accidental opportunity to offend you further or again.
you have a nice day, and good luck with your business ventures.
06-07-2009, 09:31 AM
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06-07-2009, 10:42 AM
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Dude! What are you doing??? I'm a Caps fan! Since back in the days of Hunter, Gartner, etc.
you're killing me here...
Remember Hunter's cheap shot on Turgeon after the game ended? Classic cheap shot by which all other cheap shots should be measured. Got him only 21 games, should have been 80.
you're killing me here...
Remember Hunter's cheap shot on Turgeon after the game ended? Classic cheap shot by which all other cheap shots should be measured. Got him only 21 games, should have been 80.
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06-07-2009, 11:33 AM
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Nice. I guess my attempt at mocking *others* who post nonsense by pointing out how much sense hooleyboy actually made didn't go over very well. Sorry hooleyboy, I really did mean to indicate that your post made complete sense, and was mocking those posts that are similar to the "how do I look cool in my C63" rubbish.
06-07-2009, 01:10 PM
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Dude! What are you doing??? I'm a Caps fan! Since back in the days of Hunter, Gartner, etc.
you're killing me here...
Remember Hunter's cheap shot on Turgeon after the game ended? Classic cheap shot by which all other cheap shots should be measured. Got him only 21 games, should have been 80.
you're killing me here...
Remember Hunter's cheap shot on Turgeon after the game ended? Classic cheap shot by which all other cheap shots should be measured. Got him only 21 games, should have been 80.
06-07-2009, 04:54 PM
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In any event, boy did this thread take a turn for the ugly in a hurry...
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I read this post as a compliment to hooleboy, for knowing his stuff and making sense, and as a mocking dig to the people who pretend to know their stuff but clearly don't (many of whom seem to post regularly) - but maybe I "got it" because, by nature, I tend to have a sarcastic sense of humor?
In any event, boy did this thread take a turn for the ugly in a hurry...
In any event, boy did this thread take a turn for the ugly in a hurry...
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I read it and knew he was mocking others and complimenting you. What he wrote was funny - in a good way.
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