blackbenzz

Anyone know if there is any software available for tuning our stock ECU's? I am sick of having to wait months to get a dyno tune and then paying a bunch of money every time. It would be awesome to have software to be able to tweak and tune my own car whenever I want/need. Anyone know if this is available? I know split second allows you to adjust afr but I want something that can actually tune our stock ECU's.

bassn_07

I feel you on the waiting part.... very frustrating. This is another main reason why I went with a somewhat local tuner.

Good luck on your quest!!!

prodigymb

and then you woke up.

i wish we had open source software or even something like LS1edit. in combination with a good data logger and wideband .....possibilities are endless.

OXOJE55

Max.H

I think it will be a lot easier to tune with an actual piggy back system. The stock ECU is written in code. It's nothing like a standard fuel and spark table. My friend has the STAR with some special editing feature that is able to modify engine parameters. But, he mentioned something about it being in German and then you have that code to deal with.

There are so many piggy back computers around. It shouldn't be hard to do. You can let the stock ecu run everything but the fuel and spark.

MJ50

no choice...
gotta do the old school way...

blackbenzz

Well there has to be some kind of software available, otherwise how would the tuners tune the cars? Unfortunately there is no "local" tuner. Anyone know what kind of ECU we have?

prodigymb

Bosch ME2.8 I believe.

Max.H

Not sure, maybe because they cracked the code?

Autoscope

Well, I haven't looked into it but you could do a StandAlone ECU Motec or AEM based?

Then you could do what you wanted....If it worked, which I'm sure it does!

Why not go with Kleemann and call it a day since they already have done the R&D for you!

I promise your "Smile" will be enormous!!!

Let me know if I can help..

blackbenzz

Thank you
Stand alone ECU would be a PITA to wire and Motec only costs about 2 legs and an arm.

What do you mean by Kleemann already did the R&D for me? Nobody is running my set up

c32AMG-DTM

You're in MD, correct? How local are you to VA?

http://www.autothority.com/index.php

Autoscope

Motec cost 3 legs and we only have 2...

Motec is the way to go....

Sorry, I didn't know you were spraying and how custom your MB was. I should of checked first...

So, what are your mods?

blackbenzz

Thanks but I dont think they dyno tune
Exactly lol. If I had that kinda money I would be running 9s lol

I am not currently using the nitrous. Ideally I would like to haveone tune for pump gas and one for race/nitrous. I need a retune now because I maxed out my stock injectorsand have SLR injectors I want to put in but will need to be retuned after.

List of mods will take a long time. Simply put, kleemann charger, PTE cams, and all the bolt ons.

TMC M5

Why are you acting like your car is all fast or something.... J/K

Tom

blackbenzz

Not fast, just different

MB_Forever

That's a valid point..... not only are all the "big" tuners using software, I've seen a bunch of small time shops tuning our cars with different software as well. There must be one or two major software that they all use with slight variations. On the other hand, it maybe too dangerous tuning our own cars, since even a small mistake can be very costly

c32AMG-DTM

Their website says differently - even quotes pricing for the service... but I cannot confirm first-hand that they do. Anyway, just trying to help - do as you see fit.

jangy

http://www.cmdtec.it/prod_map3d2007.asp

http://www.autodijagnostika.eu/eobd2...o-flasher.html

and to learn how:

http://www.boschtechinfo.com/index.c...ormat=Training Courses

sneakyneon

I keep looking at budget ways to approch this subject, I kinda think a apexi AFC neo might do the trick for leaning out the car, It seems like the car is just drowing in fuel. Plus if you cut the voltage to the map I'm betting you would get some more timing as well. By know means is this for a beginner to try but I think if you were able to do the install and had a wideband you could have a "fair" set up for under 500.00. You get a lot more from a tune then just fuel and timing, no cel, no speed limiter, highr RPM ect, So I guess it depends on what you wanted to get out of it.

blackbenzz

Thanks for all the info. One of my friends is going to try a piggy back solution and if it works for him I will probably try it too. Depends on how soon I could get someone to come dyno tune my stock ECU.

Fr33kn63

I would stay away from them. I used to have Minh at pitstop do a lot of work for me. He is waay expensive and overcharges like NO tomorrow! Trust me. After working with him for over 5 years on a previous project of mine he is NOT someone you want to do business with.
Unless you dont mind him wrecking your ride!(trust me...long story)

Max.H

On second thought, I remember reading somewhere on here that in order to tune our ecu's that the eprom has to be removed. If that's the case its a bit more involved.

Basically, you will need an eprom emulator, tuning software, desoldering gun with built in vacuum, a quality soldering station, and tuning background to even attempt this on your own. Very possible but, a piggy back is simpler. I have been thinking about a few possibility's myself.

jangy

Mine was updated through the OBDII

prodigymb

that's teh old school way. the chip no longer has to be removed. our ecy can be read out and flashed over using a laptop or a handheld programmer.

i do want to help you out blackbenzz. two europe based companies that i know of that may have what you are looking for are Optican and Alientech. Alientech does a lot of diesel cars but Optican can do it all. i do not know the current pricing. let me know if you have any luck