Anyone have pics of mushroom filters?
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100% agreed, there are also multiple ways including a bypass filter to prevent this. Also- an open hood dyno in a non-moving car that makes 600ish hp will definitely yield 40ish (not even 10% increase) hp or so vs a closed hood dyno in a moving car. Not to mention he opened up the restrictions on his system as he mentioned. No matter what you guys claim or think an under hood system w/open element will NOT make more power then one that takes from outside air, unless there are other factors at play. It's extremely simple physics- increase efficiency by removing restrictions and decrease temperatures. Perhaps the restriction on rickers car was so great that the loss from hot air was over ridden by the benefit of opening up the airway.
Ricker- what you're doing now will be great, if you do it- I will follow w/a custom hood/intake system for the e55.
Ricker- what you're doing now will be great, if you do it- I will follow w/a custom hood/intake system for the e55.
I don't believe any under hood system will work best. (Not without a custom hood) The factory design is actually very good IMO.
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100% agreed, there are also multiple ways including a bypass filter to prevent this. Also- an open hood dyno in a non-moving car that makes 600ish hp will definitely yield 40ish (not even 10% increase) hp or so vs a closed hood dyno in a moving car. Not to mention he opened up the restrictions on his system as he mentioned. No matter what you guys claim or think an under hood system w/open element will NOT make more power then one that takes from outside air, unless there are other factors at play. It's extremely simple physics- increase efficiency by removing restrictions and decrease temperatures. Perhaps the restriction on rickers car was so great that the loss from hot air was over ridden by the benefit of opening up the airway.
Ricker- what you're doing now will be great, if you do it- I will follow w/a custom hood/intake system for the e55.
Ricker- what you're doing now will be great, if you do it- I will follow w/a custom hood/intake system for the e55.
You guys missed my latest idea, (adding 5"-6" larger flexible plastic tubes like the SL65 Black Series has only bigger, mounting them over Foam Cones then C-Clamping directly to OEM air-inlet holes, removing any mixture w/hot engine air) will be testing/racing vs same friends car for results possibly this Sunday, then Dyno on next thursday, plus 1/8 mile track assaults
I have chosen to do the entire hood fabrication myself excluding bondo/paint, after speaking w/few highend bodyshop's their faces were
in shock @ my request to cut/add hood opening, to quote another MBW member they looked as if I had a kock growing outt've my forehead
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06-30-2009, 05:55 PM
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This may be a silly question ... but I don't suppose anyone has any wind tunnel test data on these cars? Knowing where the highest air pressure area is would be somewhat useful.
06-30-2009, 06:13 PM
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Nope, but I did read on an another Forum most car makers utilize front area by headlights/grill for air-intakes because it is the highest air pressure area on modern import perf-minded vehicles...
06-30-2009, 09:53 PM
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What materials have you guys used to insulate the underside of airbox? Though it is plastic, it gets considerable heat soak and transfers heat to the air that enters the engine. Cheap reflective aluminum tape will only do so much, and I'm sure there is better stuff on the market.
07-01-2009, 02:54 AM
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What materials have you guys used to insulate the underside of airbox? Though it is plastic, it gets considerable heat soak and transfers heat to the air that enters the engine. Cheap reflective aluminum tape will only do so much, and I'm sure there is better stuff on the market.
That lining underneath the hood looks like it would work.
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OK ... so I've already drawn up a design for a cold air intake hood that doubles to remove engine compartment heat more efficiently.
It's for the CLS55 though. Now I'm stoked to make one.
Maybe I should have saved my money on the extended warranty.
I wonder how much interest would their be in a replacement hood with a cold air system that could be easily installed. I wonder how many of you guys would go for it or is this a one off kind of project?
Wouldn't be cheap. And sure eliminates any stealth factor.
It's for the CLS55 though. Now I'm stoked to make one.
Maybe I should have saved my money on the extended warranty.
I wonder how much interest would their be in a replacement hood with a cold air system that could be easily installed. I wonder how many of you guys would go for it or is this a one off kind of project?
Wouldn't be cheap. And sure eliminates any stealth factor.
07-01-2009, 03:53 PM
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OK ... so I've already drawn up a design for a cold air intake hood that doubles to remove engine compartment heat more efficiently.
It's for the CLS55 though. Now I'm stoked to make one.
Maybe I should have saved my money on the extended warranty.
I wonder how much interest would their be in a replacement hood with a cold air system that could be easily installed. I wonder how many of you guys would go for it or is this a one off kind of project?
Wouldn't be cheap. And sure eliminates any stealth factor.
It's for the CLS55 though. Now I'm stoked to make one.
Maybe I should have saved my money on the extended warranty.
I wonder how much interest would their be in a replacement hood with a cold air system that could be easily installed. I wonder how many of you guys would go for it or is this a one off kind of project?
Wouldn't be cheap. And sure eliminates any stealth factor.
07-01-2009, 04:14 PM
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We should have an official MBWORLD exclusive E55 intake shoot out! With the best track results as the winner. Hmmmm, who's down??
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I think the gain would be significant for the simple fact that you could push other mods further. It would also go a long way in reducing that heat soak problem.
It would also be an aesthetic upgrade. Like I said ... one thing you can forget about is being stealth anymore.
It would also be an aesthetic upgrade. Like I said ... one thing you can forget about is being stealth anymore.
07-01-2009, 05:34 PM
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Ok, maybe not.. I hear crickets.
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They won't change a broken button in the interior.
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Drawing detail is *****e ... Image shack is hacking it. The intake cowl is on the hood. Believe it or not that hood line is about 2" higher than stock.
I had to reduce the image for upload (Over 10mb) but I didn't know it would turn it to crap.
I had to reduce the image for upload (Over 10mb) but I didn't know it would turn it to crap.
07-01-2009, 07:06 PM
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my hoodline will remain unchanged, at least height wise
& w/some finesse it could be installed on ANY E55/63 SL/55/600/65 CLS63/55 CL55 etc...
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