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08-04-2009, 04:03 PM
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Besides a bit of belt slip up top, his car is within spec. You should come over and try our heartbreaker dyno....more like grab-your-heat-and-throw-on-the-floor dyno. 
The last (stg 2+) E55 I tuned on it put down under 465 RWHP....and just ran 11.3x in 80+ degree heat.
Dynos are tools, much like wrenches and lifts.
The last (stg 2+) E55 I tuned on it put down under 465 RWHP....and just ran 11.3x in 80+ degree heat.
Dynos are tools, much like wrenches and lifts.
465rwhp is very much inline with what an 11.3 car should make on a Dyno Dynanics. rberga1 made roughly the same at CPT and he is right at around the same ET. That is also what a stock 65 or ECU'd 600 makes... all 11 second candidates (although 11.3 is tough cause they are heavier). I have a real hard time believing that there's 60rwhp difference between MLR's car and this Stage 2 car if MLR's car is running perfectly or was dyno'd correctly. That's a LOT of HP difference for minimal differences in mods.
Just calling it the way I see it...
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08-04-2009, 04:07 PM
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so would it be possible? or what would it take for a v8K (SL55, E55 whatever) to make 600rwhp and over 600rwtq (since it's S/C figure tq would be more than hp anyways)
08-04-2009, 04:18 PM
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Seriously, we've seen over 600RWTQ, but the HP number likely needs top-mounts, nitrous, or both to achieve with factory Kompressor.
Heads and cams, rear ice reservoir, LTs and ported blower could get you oh-so-close.....but the Kompressor runs out of air and efficiency right about there.
08-04-2009, 06:57 PM
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Seriously, we've seen over 600RWTQ, but the HP number likely needs top-mounts, nitrous, or both to achieve with factory Kompressor.
Heads and cams, rear ice reservoir, LTs and ported blower could get you oh-so-close.....but the Kompressor runs out of air and efficiency right about there.
Seriously, we've seen over 600RWTQ, but the HP number likely needs top-mounts, nitrous, or both to achieve with factory Kompressor.
Heads and cams, rear ice reservoir, LTs and ported blower could get you oh-so-close.....but the Kompressor runs out of air and efficiency right about there.
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08-04-2009, 09:53 PM
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Let me know if you are interested...I need a good comparison of my car to another E55
08-04-2009, 10:01 PM
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Wayne - no question dynos show discrepancies... but you are talking about 30-40% from one dyno to another, and they are the same manufacturer, at relatively the same part of the country, elevation, etc. I understand it's possible for them to vary.
465rwhp is very much inline with what an 11.3 car should make on a Dyno Dynanics. rberga1 made roughly the same at CPT and he is right at around the same ET. That is also what a stock 65 or ECU'd 600 makes... all 11 second candidates (although 11.3 is tough cause they are heavier). I have a real hard time believing that there's 60rwhp difference between MLR's car and this Stage 2 car if MLR's car is running perfectly or was dyno'd correctly. That's a LOT of HP difference for minimal differences in mods.
Just calling it the way I see it...
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465rwhp is very much inline with what an 11.3 car should make on a Dyno Dynanics. rberga1 made roughly the same at CPT and he is right at around the same ET. That is also what a stock 65 or ECU'd 600 makes... all 11 second candidates (although 11.3 is tough cause they are heavier). I have a real hard time believing that there's 60rwhp difference between MLR's car and this Stage 2 car if MLR's car is running perfectly or was dyno'd correctly. That's a LOT of HP difference for minimal differences in mods.
Just calling it the way I see it...
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Marcus - Don't know what to tell ya, except lets line up at the track and do a few runs...I do not get caught up in the numbers like most, all I care about is what the car made before each mod and what the mod changed.
Let me know if you are interested...I need a good comparison of my car to another E55
Let me know if you are interested...I need a good comparison of my car to another E55
FWIW, Do you datalog?
08-04-2009, 10:15 PM
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I feel exactly the same, use the dyno as a tool and not for bragging rights. I think most will agree that dyno numbers will vary drastically from dyno to dyno and trying to compare these numbers will be pointless. I will be adding one last mod :rolleyes (haha, I don't know how many times I said that) and whether or not I keep this mod will solely depend on my gains over my previous setup. If I see a substantial gain under the curve I should run faster, if not, it will be up for sale and on goes the old system.
08-04-2009, 10:16 PM
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Marcus - Don't know what to tell ya, except lets line up at the track and do a few runs...I do not get caught up in the numbers like most, all I care about is what the car made before each mod and what the mod changed.
Let me know if you are interested...I need a good comparison of my car to another E55
Let me know if you are interested...I need a good comparison of my car to another E55
The point of my post was really to help - we know that E55s are NOTORIOUS for having gremlins that can rob HP - and it would seem to me a car that puts down 372rwhp @ Stage 1 either has something wrong with it or maybe the dyno is suspect or SOMETHING is up. This is a Dyno Dynamics dyno so I know it's a good machine, but 372rwhp just seems a bit suspect.
Have you been to the drag strip with the car yet? Any trap speeds?
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08-04-2009, 10:51 PM
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MLR... I'm not trying to "challenge" you... although I'm always up to helping out a fellow enthusiast and having a little fun.
The point of my post was really to help - we know that E55s are NOTORIOUS for having gremlins that can rob HP - and it would seem to me a car that puts down 372rwhp @ Stage 1 either has something wrong with it or maybe the dyno is suspect or SOMETHING is up. This is a Dyno Dynamics dyno so I know it's a good machine, but 372rwhp just seems a bit suspect.
Have you been to the drag strip with the car yet? Any trap speeds?
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The point of my post was really to help - we know that E55s are NOTORIOUS for having gremlins that can rob HP - and it would seem to me a car that puts down 372rwhp @ Stage 1 either has something wrong with it or maybe the dyno is suspect or SOMETHING is up. This is a Dyno Dynamics dyno so I know it's a good machine, but 372rwhp just seems a bit suspect.
Have you been to the drag strip with the car yet? Any trap speeds?
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No Drag Time yet (really need some real-time numbers) & and No not "Challenging You", we are both local to one another and as I said would like to run against another E55...Win, Lose or Draw really don't care, but it would be a good test to run our cars head to head. I am traveling quite a bit in August, but anytime in September I am in (except week of Labor Day - annual Vegas Trip).
08-05-2009, 05:49 AM
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08-07-2009, 10:24 AM
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Sorry for the delay, but here is a recent dyno graph of an E55 with the 172 pulley, HE, CM30 and our software.
Marcus is right, his car makes low power...but it did so in stock form too.
Marcus is right, his car makes low power...but it did so in stock form too.
08-07-2009, 04:47 PM
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08-07-2009, 09:40 PM
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Are the headers ready yet? Are they shipping? Do they fit the CL class and other 55`s besides the E class?
Why did the pictures of the headers, on the first page go dead?
Any news or pictures on the mid pipe?
Why did the pictures of the headers, on the first page go dead?
Any news or pictures on the mid pipe?
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08-09-2009, 01:06 AM
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Jerry, MLR and who it may concern. I have an all stock 2006 e55. I am going to let Jerry work his magic. I am going to have him install pump, exchanger, 172mm pulley on. Originally when I first bought my car 50,000 miles, now has 60 I put down 362/450 on a dyno dynamics. We will see what kind of gains I will get from this procedure. I believe my car is a lower horsepower car so this should be interesting. My fastest time is a 12.6 with no experience driving the car. I had it for 3 days before I had it at the track. Now I have 285 nitto street slicks and with Jerrys work we will see the numbers and times. This will give MLR something to compare to and show what LET can do.
08-12-2009, 10:51 AM
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We have 3 sets in stock, ready to ship. I'm not sure about CL fitment, but I would love to know if they fit.
Fixing pics now..
Fixing pics now..
08-12-2009, 10:59 AM
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To help move these headers, I will be willing to throw in our software with rear 02 delete at no additional charge.
3 sets left!
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08-12-2009, 11:40 AM
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thanks man
08-12-2009, 12:37 PM
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08-12-2009, 01:41 PM
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Never tried buddy!
Pics on first post are up again!
Pics on first post are up again!
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Does someone loose boost with headers?
because the flow ist better?
I have 2 Cars,
the first with headers ( 177mm Pulley , 82 mm TB, no cats , supersprint headers ) and second with oem headers ( 172mm Pulley ),
the second car, has a higher boost than the car with headers .
The difference will be 0,05-0,1 bar.
is it possibel ?
because the flow ist better?
I have 2 Cars,
the first with headers ( 177mm Pulley , 82 mm TB, no cats , supersprint headers ) and second with oem headers ( 172mm Pulley ),
the second car, has a higher boost than the car with headers .
The difference will be 0,05-0,1 bar.
is it possibel ?
01-22-2010, 08:07 PM
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Yes, you will lose boost with headers, but that is a good. Less restriction after the kompressor will lower boost by improving flow, and create more horsepower.
With a positive displacement blower, more boost does not always = more horsepower.
With a positive displacement blower, more boost does not always = more horsepower.
