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Old 03-27-2010, 11:20 AM
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2006 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by 930chas
I bought the Dashdaq/Zeitronix package from Dave at HPF. Pricing was really good and shipping was fast. Anyone deciding to start datalogging, this package seems to be the way to go.
That's awesome Charlie! I'm glad you decided to go with my same setup as me because I know you'll love it. If you have any questions regarding this setup let me know. Oh yeah, did you also purchase the ZAVT from Zeitronix? It's a audible and visual unit that you program and setup all your parameter with. For example, I could say when at 95-100% TPS trigger the alarm if AFR's go above 12.5. Or something as simple as setting up max limits on EGT's, timing, boost, knock, or any other parameter you. I have yet installed mine yet but it's going on this weekend. Just make sure you mount the brain from the Zeitronix somewhere that's easily accessible.

Last night I made a few passes and I noticed a few things need to be worked out in my tune. Very little minor things but these are the things I'm capable of doing to get my car running at it's full potential.
Old 03-27-2010, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
That's awesome Charlie! I'm glad you decided to go with my same setup as me because I know you'll love it. If you have any questions regarding this setup let me know. Oh yeah, did you also purchase the ZAVT from Zeitronix? It's a audible and visual unit that you program and setup all your parameter with. For example, I could say when at 95-100% TPS trigger the alarm if AFR's go above 12.5. Or something as simple as setting up max limits on EGT's, timing, boost, knock, or any other parameter you. I have yet installed mine yet but it's going on this weekend. Just make sure you mount the brain from the Zeitronix somewhere that's easily accessible.

Last night I made a few passes and I noticed a few things need to be worked out in my tune. Very little minor things but these are the things I'm capable of doing to get my car running at it's full potential.
Alan, thanks. I am excited. After talking with you , I knew this was the unit I wanted. I will give you a call this week for a few questions on the setup.
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E55, Supercharged Z4 (sold)
[quote=bassn_07;4004241]

Luke, which one did you end up going with?
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Alan,

I'm going with the ZT-2 and I think I'm going to just do the dashdaq as well. It seems to have a lot of cool features the pushed me over the edge like checking and clearing CEL's. I also like that I don't need a labtop. It's completely self contained. I'm also getting the boost gauge to go along with it of course. So AFR straight from a collector, IAT from the OBD-II port as well as RPM, TPS and boost like I said.

Thanks again for your help!

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10 minutes into a 20 minute session at the track.

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I hope you don't mind me posting in this section with my SRT-6. The log could be useful to someone to understand what is being looked at. My mods are a huge H/E, code 3 pulley, dual CAI. NO TUNE! (3.2 AMG engine)

The ambient temperature was 95º, humidity near 100%. With the H/E in front of the radiator my ECT's ran 10º hotter than before. The IAT's climb to 170º under full throttle and drop to 140º under braking. I wonder if a higher GPM pump would lower the IAT's.

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Couple more log files, 1st is a 3rd gear pull from about 40mph
2nd is trying tocapture the 2nd to 3rd gear shift at WOT.

Opinions are very much appreciated!!!!! Especially timing.

BTW logged AFR's as well and at WOT above 3500 RPM it was steady at 10.7, this is with a wideband in between the resonator and muffler.
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Luke, which one did you end up going with?
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Alan,

I'm going with the ZT-2 and I think I'm going to just do the dashdaq as well. It seems to have a lot of cool features the pushed me over the edge like checking and clearing CEL's. I also like that I don't need a labtop. It's completely self contained. I'm also getting the boost gauge to go along with it of course. So AFR straight from a collector, IAT from the OBD-II port as well as RPM, TPS and boost like I said.

Thanks again for your help!
That's awesome Luke! I'm glad a few of you guys are really starting to realize how important a good logging system is.

When you get your combo I would suggest logging timing and IAT's through the OBDII and whatever else direct. IAT's through the OBD is a slow reading logging parameter but I'll be switching to a direct reading within the next couple of weeks. I have some big plans coming up and logging will definitely be important. As for the timing I have no choice but to go through the OBD until my tech figures out how to pick it up through the crank sensor, if even possible.

RPM, boost, TPS, RPM, EGT's and AFR's should be logged directly. Try and monitor as little as possible through the OBD to prevent slower sampling rates. The more parameters you log through the OBD the slower it gets...really sucks. You should also look into the ZAVT because it will give you an audible warning if you ever exceed your set parameters. This will allow you to keep your eyes on the road and still have the added safety of a unit monitoring your car.

Give me a call when you're ready and I could go into detail exactly how I monitor everything. My tech did a wonderful job setting things up for me and without him and Rob this would have never happened. My tech will be taking on a large job coming up in the next couple of weeks and I'll keep you posted. Low 10's will be the goal for the upcoming racing season...
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I can't thank you enough for your help Alan. I thought about using a second IAT sensor and putting it right behind the stock one but for now I'll just use the OBD-II port. Boost and AFR's will be direct so I'm good there. Do you think RPM's TPS and IAT's are to much to get through the OBD-II? I'm thinking that maybe I could do without RPM's or TPS if it is to slow. IDK

I guess I'll see as I use the data logging some. I definitley plan on getting the ZAVT as that is just to cool not to have lol Definitely keep in touch. I'll call you when I get the Zeintronix stuff in. I still haven't taken the time to order from Rob lol To busy but that's a good thing

I hope to get it all going in late June/early July. I'm stoked about doing this. Been looking into maybe getting some 18x10 wheels and just running mickey thompson ET Streets II after talking to you lol We'll see.

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I can't thank you enough for your help Alan. I thought about using a second IAT sensor and putting it right behind the stock one but for now I'll just use the OBD-II port. Boost and AFR's will be direct so I'm good there. Do you think RPM's TPS and IAT's are to much to get through the OBD-II? I'm thinking that maybe I could do without RPM's or TPS if it is to slow. IDK

I guess I'll see as I use the data logging some. I definitley plan on getting the ZAVT as that is just to cool not to have lol Definitely keep in touch. I'll call you when I get the Zeintronix stuff in. I still haven't taken the time to order from Rob lol To busy but that's a good thing

I hope to get it all going in late June/early July. I'm stoked about doing this. Been looking into maybe getting some 18x10 wheels and just running mickey thompson ET Streets II after talking to you lol We'll see.

Thanks again!
No problem Luke. I'm just glad I'm still able to help a few of you guys out just like many have done for me.

Before adding anything else on please let me finish my final plans to attempt a shot at my pb. If it works out I'll have a solution for many of my friends. Not making any promises but I have som really great knowledgable guys working on this with me. I'll be in touch.
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This is a log from one of my runs at MIR yesterday. Ambient temp was roughly 68* and the car had been sitting for 15 minutes, iced. Running on 93 pump.


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Nobody has any comments on this? I'm really just looking for as many set of eyes as possible to confirm that this Eurocharged tune is very safe. I don't have a lot of experience with deciphering these logs. As far as I can see, at full throttle in any gear, It never gets leaner than neg16. Seems safe to me.

I asked Jerry to give me a slightly detuned version of their V12TT shelf tune, and it sure looks like that's exactly what I got.
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
This is a log from one of my runs at MIR yesterday. Ambient temp was roughly 68* and the car had been sitting for 15 minutes, iced. Running on 93 pump.


Thoughts?


Clayton your log looks pretty good... reasonable IATs for the most part (for a stock system), and timing doesn't look too crazy. It would also be helpful to look at your MAP readings.

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Believe it or not, my IAT's persist!

I now have Floored Fab long tubes, a Meziere Pump, etc and I still almost hit 200F! I even wrapped the bottom of my IC when we did my 82mm pulley with some expensive thermal wrap... it has helped a small amount but I am still running way too hot. Temp outside was 77F.

Next up is splitting my cooling circuits... running out of ideas here.

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Holy cow. A spike to near 200? You feel supercharger shut down?

WOW, that is weird.

Split circuits for sure!!! It's a piece of cake.
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Holy cow. A spike to near 200? You feel supercharger shut down?

WOW, that is weird.

Split circuits for sure!!! It's a piece of cake.
No I do not. I did two 50-150 pulls on Saturday evening and the supercharger never shut off. Car pulls cleanly and makes decent power, but obviously could make more with lower IATs.

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I just pulled the trigger and got the KIWI WIFI datalogger which is linked to my Ipod touch. I'm going to put it through it's paces in the next few days.

So far..so good.

It's a fun and useful toy!!!

I have to see how it records the data. And I too need to figure out if it records timing!

Now if I can manage to use the kiwi while driving without crashing..that will be a feat in of its self.
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Believe it or not, my IAT's persist!

I now have Floored Fab long tubes, a Meziere Pump, etc and I still almost hit 200F! I even wrapped the bottom of my IC when we did my 82mm pulley with some expensive thermal wrap... it has helped a small amount but I am still running way too hot. Temp outside was 77F.

Next up is splitting my cooling circuits... running out of ideas here.

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Marcus, there's got to be something else we're missing here why are IATs spiking up so high on your car but not so much on other cars with similar setup? It maybe worth it to try a deeper diagnosis before exploring other options. Maybe the problem is related to your intercooler itself
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Marcus, I agree with Mo.

Has anyone had an issue with their IAT sensor going bad? I know Prodigy posted about something he was going to try and do with it a while back. I can't find the thread.

I've made some runs with my logger and I did see IAT as high as 143 degrees and that was to about 100mph @ WOT.

Earlier in the day when it was 75 degrees out my IAT did get up to about 150 but quickly recovered.
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Marcus, there's got to be something else we're missing here why are IATs spiking up so high on your car but not so much on other cars with similar setup? It maybe worth it to try a deeper diagnosis before exploring other options. Maybe the problem is related to your intercooler itself
Mo,

Do you mean in terms of me not disclosing something or meaning that this just doesn't make sense? I checked to make sure my pump didn't blow a fuse last night after a text from Alan, and sure enough with the ignition on putting your ear down to where the pump is you can hear it running. So that's not the issue. I ordered an IAT sensor replacement, but in my experience with those kind of sensors fail they either don't send a reading at all or send totally messed up readings. My IAT curve makes "sense" in terms of correlating to load/etc, so I'm not sure if a bad sensor is to blame. It's $25, so it's not a big deal to replace.

Aside from that I have had this problem for almost 2 years, I am sad to say.

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Mo,

Do you mean in terms of me not disclosing something or meaning that this just doesn't make sense? I checked to make sure my pump didn't blow a fuse last night after a text from Alan, and sure enough with the ignition on putting your ear down to where the pump is you can hear it running. So that's not the issue. I ordered an IAT sensor replacement, but in my experience with those kind of sensors fail they either don't send a reading at all or send totally messed up readings. My IAT curve makes "sense" in terms of correlating to load/etc, so I'm not sure if a bad sensor is to blame. It's $25, so it's not a big deal to replace.

Aside from that I have had this problem for almost 2 years, I am sad to say.

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I mean that it just doesn't make any sense. And I think it maybe best to hold off on trying to improve cooling until we figure out the problem that exists in the system today and (at least) get your IATs up to the same level as other similar 55ks with the same setup before introducing other possibilities into the scenario. If it's not the sensor and pump, maybe it's somewhere else.... somewhere we're all overlooking. Also, you mentioned that the supercharger doesn't shut off even at those high IAT numbers, which introduces a couple of new puzzles:

- Is the ECU even sending a dis-engage signal to shut off the supercharger or is it not sending the signal despite the high IATs.
- Could there be a short in the system somewhere? Does your supercharger ever turn off when heated?
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I mean that it just doesn't make any sense. And I think it maybe best to hold off on trying to improve cooling until we figure out the problem that exists in the system today and (at least) get your IATs up to the same level as other similar 55ks with the same setup before introducing other possibilities into the scenario. If it's not the sensor and pump, maybe it's somewhere else.... somewhere we're all overlooking. Also, you mentioned that the supercharger doesn't shut off even at those high IAT numbers, which introduces a couple of new puzzles:

- Is the ECU even sending a dis-engage signal to shut off the supercharger or is it not sending the signal despite the high IATs.
- Could there be a short in the system somewhere? Does your supercharger ever turn off when heated?
Mo,

First off I appreciate the questions... my mind is so burnt out from this problem I'm on the verge of lunacy. Everyone here locally is also scratching their heads... I'd really like to sort it out and a fresh set of eyes can sometimes be just what the doctor ordered...

- My car has never disengaged the supercharger due to high IATs. Notice that on my log I only went to 120-130mph (and hit just over 190F), but on Saturday I did TWO clean 50-150mph pulls against another MB and the car did not shut off the supercharger. Looking at my log, if I had kept it in the throttle past 130 to 150 that 2nd run in my log, I would have gone over 200F. I did not datalog the runs on Saturday, but I wish I had.

- My previous 03 E55 had a bad water pump and I know exactly how an E55 feels with a bad pump and what supercharger shutoff feels like. My current car does not exhibit those characteristics, although I do think it should make more power than it does.

- STAR does not turn up any "Intake Air Temp Too High" codes, as a matter of fact, I get codes in the winter of exactly the opposite (either for coolant temp or IAT, I can't recall).

- Have had 3 different pullies, 2 different pumps, and 3 different tunes, all that show the same high IATs.

Some theories:

-My datalogger is messed up
-My IAT needs replacing
-I need to split my cooling circuits
-I need to increase my cooling capacity

Like I mentioned before... I am really running out of ideas.

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Mo,

First off I appreciate the questions... my mind is so burnt out from this problem I'm on the verge of lunacy. Everyone here locally is also scratching their heads... I'd really like to sort it out and a fresh set of eyes can sometimes be just what the doctor ordered...

- My car has never disengaged the supercharger due to high IATs. Notice that on my log I only went to 120-130mph (and hit just over 190F), but on Saturday I did TWO clean 50-150mph pulls against another MB and the car did not shut off the supercharger. Looking at my log, if I had kept it in the throttle past 130 to 150 that 2nd run in my log, I would have gone over 200F. I did not datalog the runs on Saturday, but I wish I had.

- My previous 03 E55 had a bad water pump and I know exactly how an E55 feels with a bad pump and what supercharger shutoff feels like. My current car does not exhibit those characteristics, although I do think it should make more power than it does.

- STAR does not turn up any "Intake Air Temp Too High" codes, as a matter of fact, I get codes in the winter of exactly the opposite (either for coolant temp or IAT, I can't recall).

- Have had 3 different pullies, 2 different pumps, and 3 different tunes, all that show the same high IATs.

Some theories:

-My datalogger is messed up
-My IAT needs replacing
-I need to split my cooling circuits
-I need to increase my cooling capacity

Like I mentioned before... I am really running out of ideas.

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I understand your frustration, as I have lived it a few times in the past.... such is the wonderful world of modding

There are two seperate points to look at here:

1) If the ECU is not disengaging the supercharger, then maybe the issue is related to ECU programming.... not necessarily from an ECU tune, but from programming within the ECU. I wonder if it is possible that an old tune modified a setting in certain maps in the ECU that could have caused this "override". I understand you got a couple of newer tunes after that, but if the newer tunes (based on newer MB software) happen to access maps in different locations, is it possible that an old residual setting remained in your ECU. Sorry, I'm not an expert in this stuff, I'm just trying to explore ideas that maybe outside the "norm" since we've explored almost everything else.

2) The supercharger could be receiving the disengage signal but not responding maybe due to a short or bad wire. Is there a way to check if the ECU (based on the IAT values) is disabling the supercharger? It maybe worth it to flash your car with the most updated stock file, install the stock pulley and try to run the car very hot and see whether the IATs spike or not and if they do whether the supercharger will disengage. I know it is a hassle, but sometimes when all else fails, we have to go back to basics.
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I understand your frustration, as I have lived it a few times in the past.... such is the wonderful world of modding

There are two seperate points to look at here:

1) If the ECU is not disengaging the supercharger, then maybe the issue is related to ECU programming.... not necessarily from an ECU tune, but from programming within the ECU. I wonder if it is possible that an old tune modified a setting in certain maps in the ECU that could have caused this "override". I understand you got a couple of newer tunes after that, but if the newer tunes (based on newer MB software) happen to access maps in different locations, is it possible that an old residual setting remained in your ECU. Sorry, I'm not an expert in this stuff, I'm just trying to explore ideas that maybe outside the "norm" since we've explored almost everything else.

2) The supercharger could be receiving the disengage signal but not responding maybe due to a short or bad wire. Is there a way to check if the ECU (based on the IAT values) is disabling the supercharger? It maybe worth it to flash your car with the most updated stock file, install the stock pulley and try to run the car very hot and see whether the IATs spike or not and if they do whether the supercharger will disengage. I know it is a hassle, but sometimes when all else fails, we have to go back to basics.
Mo,

I actually had an ECU go bad on this car and got a brand new one from MB ($2000) earlier this year, so I don't think that the file is the issue. The car had high IATs with my previous ECU and my current ECU.

As for the supercharger engaging/disengaging, around normal driving the car still does engage/disengage the supercharger at low RPM like a normal 55, so I don't think the ECU is having trouble disengaging the s/c clutch.

-m
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Hey guys I'm new to data logging and from what I hear its the best thing to do to monitor the car. I have a PLX device hooked up, then sent to my Iphone. Here is a run I did a while back and wanted to know what you guys think about my tune, and the way the car is running. I have no idea what I am looking at. I believe this run was from 0-100 please advice on the correct way of logging and what I am looking at, Thank you very much, Chad


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