Oil change on an E63?
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Many years ago, I found out something the hard way. I used the wrong size crush washer on the oil pan.
I had oil sprayed all in the engine belly pans. So having the right oil pan crush washer is critical.
Not to mention, I had to do another oil service. No that the oil was bad, but because I needed to replace the crush washer.
I had oil sprayed all in the engine belly pans. So having the right oil pan crush washer is critical.
Not to mention, I had to do another oil service. No that the oil was bad, but because I needed to replace the crush washer.
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True proper oil change includes the main oil pan, the front oil cooler and the Passenger side oil cooler for an E63. All 3 of these will get you to the 9.5 qts refill.
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So where is the drain plug located at, on the passenger side oil cooler? Because I don't remember every seeing one. But I do drain both the oil pan and the front oil cooler.
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cCn we drain the passenger side cooler? I only drained the pan and front oil cooler. How much oil should be refilled if those are drained?
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I've looked at countless photo of the passenger oil cooler, and I can't find a single photo the shows a drain plug. So I convinced that there isn't one. Proof me otherwise.
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does anybody have a picture of the bumper not mounted? would it be that the passenger side cooler is higher than the front cooler so by default it will gravity drain through the front cooler?
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Having done numerous oil changes; I gave this some thought and realized since the passenger side oil cooler doesn't have a drain.
It probably does drain by gravity back to the front oil cooler. As you do get a substantial amount of oil from it when drained.
It probably does drain by gravity back to the front oil cooler. As you do get a substantial amount of oil from it when drained.
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Does anybody know how many mm the oil should be? E55 guys say that it is supposed to be 165 mm for their engine. Since the updated dipstick is useless I want to use the one that shows oil depth in mm.
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Remember someone told me, that 165mm is about right for the E55. I'm certainly glad that the E63 came with a proper dipstick.
The dipstick never lies
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BTW guys, in my post above about draining all three areas of the E63, I never said there is a drain *plug* for the cooler up under the right side of the bumper cover in front of the passenger wheel. There is an aluminum tube fitting into the cooler and a single screw holding the fitting into the cooler. Remove the screw, pull out the aluminum fitting (there is a rubber O-ring on the fitting) and voila, another stream of oil will drain out. The oil pan and front center cooler have drain plugs. Next time I do an oil change, I'll take a pic or two.
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BTW guys, in my post above about draining all three areas of the E63, I never said there is a drain *plug* for the cooler up under the right side of the bumper cover in front of the passenger wheel. There is an aluminum tube fitting into the cooler and a single screw holding the fitting into the cooler. Remove the screw, pull out the aluminum fitting (there is a rubber O-ring on the fitting) and voila, another stream of oil will drain out. The oil pan and front center cooler have drain plugs. Next time I do an oil change, I'll take a pic or two.
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The oil extraction method, doesn't get all of the oil out. Only the oil that is in the pan. You still have oil in both the front and right oil coolers, and by draining the front cooler you remove most of the oil in the right oil cooler as well.
But its your call, and your AMG.
Do it your way.....
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I followed @W126AMG's posts above, when I recently drained my 2007 E63's oil. Indeed, I believe that the passenger-side oil cooler drained more oil by removing the line from it, than the main oil cooler did! I would put the amount of oil from this secondary cooler at around 1/2 quart, maybe more.
When I gravity-drained all three (both coolers and the main oilpan), definitely a full-on 9.5 quarts was replaced back into the engine.
It's really not any more effort to drain this secondary cooler than it is to do the main cooler. I would recommend having an extra green viton o-ring in your parts stock, for the secondary cooler line, and replacing this o-ring every second or third oil change.
When I gravity-drained all three (both coolers and the main oilpan), definitely a full-on 9.5 quarts was replaced back into the engine.
It's really not any more effort to drain this secondary cooler than it is to do the main cooler. I would recommend having an extra green viton o-ring in your parts stock, for the secondary cooler line, and replacing this o-ring every second or third oil change.
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I followed @W126AMG's posts above, when I recently drained my 2007 E63's oil. Indeed, I believe that the passenger-side oil cooler drained more oil by removing the line from it, than the main oil cooler did! I would put the amount of oil from this secondary cooler at around 1/2 quart, maybe more.
When I gravity-drained all three (both coolers and the main oilpan), definitely a full-on 9.5 quarts was replaced back into the engine.
It's really not any more effort to drain this secondary cooler than it is to do the main cooler. I would recommend having an extra green viton o-ring in your parts stock, for the secondary cooler line, and replacing this o-ring every second or third oil change.
When I gravity-drained all three (both coolers and the main oilpan), definitely a full-on 9.5 quarts was replaced back into the engine.
It's really not any more effort to drain this secondary cooler than it is to do the main cooler. I would recommend having an extra green viton o-ring in your parts stock, for the secondary cooler line, and replacing this o-ring every second or third oil change.
Draining the usual cooler at the line gets a verified 1L extra out of the system.
Extraction leaves too much old oil in there for my liking, and I need the car up on QuickJacks anyway to service it...so if there's another easily accessible component to drain, I'm all for it.
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Curious if the R230 (which shares a lot with the W211) also has the secondary oil cooler.
Draining the usual cooler at the line gets a verified 1L extra out of the system.
Extraction leaves too much old oil in there for my liking, and I need the car up on QuickJacks anyway to service it...so if there's another easily accessible component to drain, I'm all for it.
Draining the usual cooler at the line gets a verified 1L extra out of the system.
Extraction leaves too much old oil in there for my liking, and I need the car up on QuickJacks anyway to service it...so if there's another easily accessible component to drain, I'm all for it.
I have used top-end extraction for the past 25+ years on every other MB engine I've owned -- M103, several M104s, M117s, M119, M116, etc. Works fine for those applications, but the M156 is a totally different situation.
