this a close up of the Kompressor
02-18-2003, 03:21 AM
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what ever I like
this a close up of the Kompressor
this is the real deal . A close up and personal view of the 55 kompressor on the bench out side of the car about to be installed .
02-18-2003, 09:51 AM
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Re: this a close up of the Kompressor
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this is the real deal . A close up and personal view of the 55 kompressor on the bench out side of the car about to be installed .
this is the real deal . A close up and personal view of the 55 kompressor on the bench out side of the car about to be installed .
Where did you buy that kompressor? And is that really the same as in the new W211 55 kompressor? Sorry it just looks a little bit different as the word AMG are angled?
02-21-2003, 05:57 PM
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Thats the AMG 55 S/C for sure, if anybody have the guts to start
a home install or know some who will be interested in purchasing
AMG 55 S/C and intercoolers, I have them stacked up and willing to sell for a fair price.
S/C and intercooler cost approx. $ 5.000,00 here in Denmark at any MB dealer.
a home install or know some who will be interested in purchasing
AMG 55 S/C and intercoolers, I have them stacked up and willing to sell for a fair price.
S/C and intercooler cost approx. $ 5.000,00 here in Denmark at any MB dealer.
02-21-2003, 06:43 PM
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Sure- any MBZ dealer will take all of the at least 100 parts required to do a full AMG SC conversion and stick them on your 10:1 CR engine for you. The warranty will be in place and you will spend pennies to have an AMG engine.
Wake up!
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02-21-2003, 07:17 PM
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SLeuqualsSOFTsausage.
Yes, you can buy it as spareparts in any MB shop.
But like KLEEMANN is saying, come on
.
Buy it as spareparts or buy it from me, what you do with it is your
problem.
Yes, you can buy it as spareparts in any MB shop.
But like KLEEMANN is saying, come on
.Buy it as spareparts or buy it from me, what you do with it is your
problem.
02-24-2003, 10:58 AM
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You want an AMG 55 motor and kompressor. Wait awhile - plenty may be available from wrecked cars. All that power and speed will mean more wrecks.
After a couple of years there will probably be many more independant shops and enthusiasts doing AMG supercharger installs. Especially if the parts cost only cost $5k.
After a couple of years there will probably be many more independant shops and enthusiasts doing AMG supercharger installs. Especially if the parts cost only cost $5k.
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03-01-2003, 01:20 AM
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yes in fact that is the factory AMG Kompressor and it will fit on 55 motor and 500 motor as well, you can buy it for 65% cheeper than the Kleeman" water cooler" supercharger ,
I know I will get some hate mail now . but who cares you can make your car faster for alot less money .........
whant even cheeper try 3:27 diff gear ratio and etc control unit should drop 0 to 60 time by close to 1 second...
should cost around 3,000 to 3,500 for that set up ....
I know I will get some hate mail now . but who cares you can make your car faster for alot less money .........
whant even cheeper try 3:27 diff gear ratio and etc control unit should drop 0 to 60 time by close to 1 second...
should cost around 3,000 to 3,500 for that set up ....
03-02-2003, 09:27 PM
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suspension king, has that kompressor been installed yet? What car? Let us know how the install went and the outcome. Thanks.
03-03-2003, 04:01 PM
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Power is great, but without reliability, what's the point? You can not simply add the AMG Kompressor to a naturally-aspirated 500/55 motor, and expect everything to be peachy. The 55k motors are built to handle big boost, the naturally-aspirated 500/55 are not. Sure, you can save money on the supercharger, Lucas volunteered to sell a whole shelf full! But fixing your motor out of warranty will be a lot more expensive in the long run than the Kleemann.
A 3.27 diff is a cheaper and reliable alternative to the Kleemann, but you will not have the monster power that a Kleemann 55 would.
A 3.27 diff is a cheaper and reliable alternative to the Kleemann, but you will not have the monster power that a Kleemann 55 would.
03-03-2003, 05:33 PM
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WHY ARE YOU DISSING THIS GUY!
Originally posted by Mach430
Power is great, but without reliability, what's the point? You can not simply add the AMG Kompressor to a naturally-aspirated 500/55 motor, and expect everything to be peachy. The 55k motors are built to handle big boost, the naturally-aspirated 500/55 are not. Sure, you can save money on the supercharger, Lucas volunteered to sell a whole shelf full! But fixing your motor out of warranty will be a lot more expensive in the long run than the Kleemann.
A 3.27 diff is a cheaper and reliable alternative to the Kleemann, but you will not have the monster power that a Kleemann 55 would.
Power is great, but without reliability, what's the point? You can not simply add the AMG Kompressor to a naturally-aspirated 500/55 motor, and expect everything to be peachy. The 55k motors are built to handle big boost, the naturally-aspirated 500/55 are not. Sure, you can save money on the supercharger, Lucas volunteered to sell a whole shelf full! But fixing your motor out of warranty will be a lot more expensive in the long run than the Kleemann.
A 3.27 diff is a cheaper and reliable alternative to the Kleemann, but you will not have the monster power that a Kleemann 55 would.
You don't even know what car is going to get it and your post sounds like the guy will be foolish for doing so. The car may already be out of warranty and you don't know the person's skill level nor if he is a mechanic. Who knows the person posting could be a NASCAR or NHRA Crew Chief or an engine builder.
Are you trying to discourage this guy and others from doing his/their own work without knowing who he is or what his qualifications are. Your post sounds like no one can install an supercharger but EVOSport or Kleemann centers.
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03-03-2003, 06:11 PM
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I wish you the best of luck and if some want's to purchase V8 AMG systems from me please send me a mail.
Installing a Supercharger on an engine, is easy as scratching you own a$$, makeing the engine run afterwards, it's here the challenge waits ahead. 1 thing is to make it run, but run great and pass polution test as TÜV / CARB is even more a challenge.
This why a KLEEMANN system is more expensive.
Installing a Supercharger on an engine, is easy as scratching you own a$$, makeing the engine run afterwards, it's here the challenge waits ahead. 1 thing is to make it run, but run great and pass polution test as TÜV / CARB is even more a challenge.
This why a KLEEMANN system is more expensive.
03-03-2003, 10:54 PM
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Re: WHY ARE YOU DISSING THIS GUY!
Originally posted by E55 KEV
I would think that the person doing a self-install already knows that the car will not be covered under warranty. A Mercedes with a Kleemann is not covered under the Mercedes warranty either, so what is your point.
You don't even know what car is going to get it and your post sounds like the guy will be foolish for doing so. The car may already be out of warranty and you don't know the person's skill level nor if he is a mechanic. Who knows the person posting could be a NASCAR or NHRA Crew Chief or an engine builder.
Are you trying to discourage this guy and others from doing his/their own work without knowing who he is or what his qualifications are. Your post sounds like no one can install an supercharger but EVOSport or Kleemann centers.
I would think that the person doing a self-install already knows that the car will not be covered under warranty. A Mercedes with a Kleemann is not covered under the Mercedes warranty either, so what is your point.
You don't even know what car is going to get it and your post sounds like the guy will be foolish for doing so. The car may already be out of warranty and you don't know the person's skill level nor if he is a mechanic. Who knows the person posting could be a NASCAR or NHRA Crew Chief or an engine builder.
Are you trying to discourage this guy and others from doing his/their own work without knowing who he is or what his qualifications are. Your post sounds like no one can install an supercharger but EVOSport or Kleemann centers.
I dont think anyone is trying to discourage anything, perhaps those who are posting have already "been there and done that".
Ill re-hash a whole bunch of right here for you:
You cannot, and I mean CANNOT just stick the AMG SC right onto a M113 engine and do nothing else. The CR of the standard engine is way too high for the 14+ psi of the AMG SC. At the very least you need to lower the boost- how much? Well I know, but why should I do everyone elses homework for them? Sure the SC FITS on the engine- what a silly thing to say- of course is does, its the same BLOCK.
The SC and manifolds (with intercooler) are approx $5 large, just like Lucas said. But what about the "other" or "anciliary" parts required to "make it fit". ALL the pulleys (8 rib VS 6, dual drive plane), air intake (AMG has no MAF, so no provision for it, cooling lines, water pump, radiator, wiring, fuel system, engine programming blah, blah, blah. Sure its possible, anything is possible, the question is are you up to it? And are willing to risk your $29K engine trying to learn about it?
Of course its possible- this is exactly what RennTech does. "Their" SC system is off the shelf AMG parts, with a boost pressure lowering for their "low boost" system (read: standard CR friendly). Price? $19K- pretty much the same or MORE than a KLEEMANN SC (guess what, the power is LOWER).
RT's "high boost" system (which is the 496hp AMG duplicate, on par with KLEEMANN for power) requires that they rebuild the bottom end to AMG SC spec- price? $40K out the door.
Of course I am an arrogant, biased, intolerant monkey loving bozo whose only purpose in life is to disuade others from trying anything that isnt OUR products.
:p 
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03-04-2003, 11:51 AM
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Lucas & Kleemann, I agree, lot's of work involved this is true.
However, we can not assume that no person, no other mechanic nor any other engine shop in Somewhere USA or elsewhere can not be successful in adding a Kompressor and that the only competant mechanics to do this work are only found at RennTech and Kleemann centers. That would be good for your business but not reality.
I just thought that it was a little insensitive to gauge someone's skill level. We don't know who he is nor his skills. We should be supportive and as I asked him - let us know how the install is going.
However, we can not assume that no person, no other mechanic nor any other engine shop in Somewhere USA or elsewhere can not be successful in adding a Kompressor and that the only competant mechanics to do this work are only found at RennTech and Kleemann centers. That would be good for your business but not reality.
I just thought that it was a little insensitive to gauge someone's skill level. We don't know who he is nor his skills. We should be supportive and as I asked him - let us know how the install is going.
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Kev, your right and I still wish the poor guy all the luck he can get.
Lets say it might work, for which model ????
To be any kind of a tuner, you have to able to supply to all models
CLK, E, C, S. CL, ML, SL, G, then he have to earn a living have stock and hire people to help him, and boom it will cost 20.000,00.
That 1 garage mechanic can build him self a cheap kit no question,
but that anybody else should benefit from that I will doubt.
Lets say it might work, for which model ????
To be any kind of a tuner, you have to able to supply to all models
CLK, E, C, S. CL, ML, SL, G, then he have to earn a living have stock and hire people to help him, and boom it will cost 20.000,00.
That 1 garage mechanic can build him self a cheap kit no question,
but that anybody else should benefit from that I will doubt.
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ones too fast according to CHP!
Re: WHY ARE YOU DISSING THIS GUY!
Originally posted by E55 KEV
I would think that the person doing a self-install already knows that the car will not be covered under warranty. A Mercedes with a Kleemann is not covered under the Mercedes warranty either, so what is your point.
You don't even know what car is going to get it and your post sounds like the guy will be foolish for doing so. The car may already be out of warranty and you don't know the person's skill level nor if he is a mechanic. Who knows the person posting could be a NASCAR or NHRA Crew Chief or an engine builder.
Are you trying to discourage this guy and others from doing his/their own work without knowing who he is or what his qualifications are. Your post sounds like no one can install an supercharger but EVOSport or Kleemann centers.
I would think that the person doing a self-install already knows that the car will not be covered under warranty. A Mercedes with a Kleemann is not covered under the Mercedes warranty either, so what is your point.
You don't even know what car is going to get it and your post sounds like the guy will be foolish for doing so. The car may already be out of warranty and you don't know the person's skill level nor if he is a mechanic. Who knows the person posting could be a NASCAR or NHRA Crew Chief or an engine builder.
Are you trying to discourage this guy and others from doing his/their own work without knowing who he is or what his qualifications are. Your post sounds like no one can install an supercharger but EVOSport or Kleemann centers.
Just FYI.
Misleading users into thinking that he is a private indivudal rather then a shop is not appropriate for this board. We DO infact know what his qualifications are and what he can do. You assume that we do not have this info!
Thanks
Brad
03-04-2003, 10:29 PM
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Re: Re: WHY ARE YOU DISSING THIS GUY!
Originally posted by otoupalik
First of all, we need FULL DISCLOSURE. This is NOT a private individual. This is the owner of RB Tech in Los Angeles.
Just FYI.
Misleading users into thinking that he is a private indivudal rather then a shop is not appropriate for this board. We DO infact know what his qualifications are and what he can do. You assume that we do not have this info!
Thanks
Brad
First of all, we need FULL DISCLOSURE. This is NOT a private individual. This is the owner of RB Tech in Los Angeles.
Just FYI.
Misleading users into thinking that he is a private indivudal rather then a shop is not appropriate for this board. We DO infact know what his qualifications are and what he can do. You assume that we do not have this info!
Thanks
Brad
03-05-2003, 04:06 AM
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so brad, why is this suspension king guy being suspended? what did he do?!
suspension king, now will ya install that ang 55 SC on mbworld's member for 5000??? and the dfferential ratio for 3k??? say yes and im sure u can start a wait list!!
suspension king, now will ya install that ang 55 SC on mbworld's member for 5000??? and the dfferential ratio for 3k??? say yes and im sure u can start a wait list!!
