SLequalsHARDON

Does AMG offer it's V8 Kompressor as just a part you can buy? I know any Mercedes "500" engine with a V8 Kompressor still wouldn't have all the suspension/tranny tuning or exhaust etc, but just from a purely performance point of view. And of course the AMG Intercooler etc.


Or, does any other manufacturer offer forced induction for a 5.0 L Benz engine...


just curious...

awiner

The AMG 5.5 Kompressed engines are actually built for the Kompressor with heavier parts internally than a standard 500 engine. Therefore, it would not be wise to attempt such a feat. I would recommend going for a Kleemann supercharger setup for a 500 engine.

Mach430

The AMG Kompressor produces too much boost to be put on a different engine without modifying the engine's internals. Like Awiner said, the best aftermarket option would be the Kleemann.

SLequalsHARDON

Wow, I just looked at the Kleeman option, and it's quite impressive.

500 Metric HP, 493 American... around 500 lbs-ft. This out of 5 litres.

Will modifying the bore and stroke (thereby increasing displacement) to 5.5 or above, have effect on the torque and horsepower? Do aftermarkets perform this, or on request?

Mach430

Displacement will allow for more torque. But the costs of modifying the engine cost much more than the Kleemann SC, and net less power. We can do either. In fact, we are currently doing both together on a CLK6.2K.

SLequalsHARDON

How about in conjunction with a blower? Perhaps my incoherency had a bit part in the miscommunication.

I have come to know that a G4 Kleemann Supercharger w/o installation is about 14,000. With installation, how much does evosport charge?

Then, how much does increasing displacement to say, 5.5 litres cost?

Mach430

The SC is $14,350. Install is another $1500.

Increasing displacement is much more costly. Prices vary from job to job, but you are looking at at least the cost of the SC, for less gains. If the 500 HP is not enough, I would recommend either headers, a new differential, cams, lightweight body parts, etc from there.

SLequalsHARDON

yup... your right, 500 should be enough

what is the 0-60 and 1/4 mile on that? SL55 AMG or better?


And is that SC price negotiable? Woosh!.. and unless I had an incredible knowledge of cars shouldn't attempt to install myself right?

that 500HP is metric right? not English HP.


and honestly, between you and me... why does modifying the stroke from the stock 84 to 92 that expensive? It's just 8 mm!

and between you and me, is there a place that'll do the stroke for cheap? Like 5 g's? MB dealer, independant garage, by myself? Guy who knows cars?



and last question, the whole detonation factor of forced induction. Apparrenty dropping the compression ratio helps.

But my question is, after adding a Kleemann SC and modifying the stroke, what is the increased chance of detonation?

Does evosport, when installing the SC, take measures to avoid this?


Thanks.

Mach430

We take all precautions necessary to avoid detonation with the Kleemann SC, but to be honest, the way it is designed, detonation is not an issue. When finished, you will have one of the most efficient intercooling systems, which combined with .5 bar will result in a/f ratios of about 12.5.

Almost all Mercedes work is more expensive than other cars. This is due to the narrow product line, and the price of the car. Kleemann's supercharger upgrade is more than $10,000 cheaper than other upgrades of simliar results. With the Kleemann, you can expect 50% more power than what your car dyno's before the installation. MSRP is $14,350 with install at $1,500. I have not seen an authorized dealer do it for less. Install can only be performed by a Kleemann dealer, as it is necessary to ensure proper installation and a trouble-free experience.

Feel free to call or email me with any further questions. It's hard to answer between you and me on a public forum!

Thanks,
Ben