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Old 10-16-2009 | 03:12 AM
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If VRUS is banned, then what about VRP claims?

What has this board come to? VRUS is banned. Vadim is in hiding. And now i hear that the VRP 4 spline pulleys have been giving way, so how is a client to get some customer service? I suppose contact VRP directly, but that sucks.
Old 10-16-2009 | 03:40 AM
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There's been a lot of "under-the-cover" incidents that have taken place specifically in the past year and a half or so that were very damaging to VRP. Almost everyone knows about it but no one talks about it publicly. PM, apparently, has been the way to go.
Old 10-16-2009 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
There's been a lot of "under-the-cover" incidents that have taken place specifically in the past year and a half or so that were very damaging to VRP. Almost everyone knows about it but no one talks about it publicly. PM, apparently, has been the way to go.
Yup...
Old 10-16-2009 | 05:34 AM
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Time to speak up guys....
Old 10-16-2009 | 07:31 AM
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I am also having issues getting a hold of victor.
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I was thinking of trying his 190mm pulley. But everything seems so shady now, I think I may just stick with my tried and true evosport 175mm.
Old 10-16-2009 | 10:10 AM
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I was thinking of trying his 190mm pulley. But everything seems so shady now, I think I may just stick with my tried and true evosport 175mm.
That would be a good idea....
Old 10-16-2009 | 11:05 AM
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I have not heard from VRP neither, I am sure there is a legitimate reason for this... I am sure if you try to reach victor and explain your frustration you might get somewhere.

I am in no means a poster boy for VRP, but just a fanatic of their product and admire their research and development for this community.
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VRUS banned?

What was the reason? I'm sure all members can learn from this.
Old 10-16-2009 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
There's been a lot of "under-the-cover" incidents that have taken place specifically in the past year and a half or so that were very damaging to VRP. Almost everyone knows about it but no one talks about it publicly. PM, apparently, has been the way to go.
Old 10-16-2009 | 11:50 AM
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I will start. Again I have yet to be paid back a refund by either Vadim or VRP.. Nothing but B.S... It's always Next week, I have a client paying, I got a charge back, I'm sick, the shop burnt, insurance delays, car broke down, and on and on and on.. Does this sound like the same stories you guys have heard? I bet it does.. I'm for one am tiered of the B.S.. I am ready to answer all and tell all. But I think we all know already..
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Honestly, I didn't start this thread to get a new head count of who is owed what. No disrespect, since I am also in that pack.


My intent was to see where the E55k R&D is going to be coming from? For all of their faults, both VRUS and Vadim thought me a great deal and were instrumental in getting our rides to where we are today. Now, if they can't save face, who do we turn to? Personally, I have no defect issues, so no worries. But, I know a number of people are stuck with Pullies that they may or may not be confident in. This issue was brought up even with VRP's first rendition and we never came to a consensus. From what i see being offered by all the tuners, the "re-making" of a stock pulley (ala ASP) seems to be the trend. I wonder why?
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
I will start. Again I have yet to be paid back a refund by either Vadim or VRP.. Nothing but B.S... It's always Next week, I have a client paying, I got a charge back, I'm sick, the shop burnt, insurance delays, car broke down, and on and on and on.. Does this sound like the same stories you guys have heard? I bet it does.. I'm for one am tiered of the B.S.. I am ready to answer all and tell all. But I think we all know already..
been there done that...
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Jangy there is a place right here in Poway that is the best pulley maker around.. What ever happened to J&R Euro Specialist
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Damn guys, I was considering between VRP and Kleemann. I guess there are only 2-3 companies left that got enough ballz to stay in business.
Old 10-16-2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
What has this board come to? VRUS is banned. Vadim is in hiding. And now i hear that the VRP 4 spline pulleys have been giving way, so how is a client to get some customer service? I suppose contact VRP directly, but that sucks.
Voctor's account is banned at this time because there is a dispute with internet brands. As far as pulley issues go, after 2 of the old version of the vrp pulley came apart VRP recalled over 40 units and sent out new updated replacements out to every customer that had the old version. Contacting Victor is hard to do but mainly because VPR is not his only and primary buisness. His full time job is software design. I am deal with him alot and it is very hard to get a hold of him, but leave a message or email him and he will get backj to you.
Old 10-16-2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
I will start. Again I have yet to be paid back a refund by either Vadim or VRP.. Nothing but B.S... It's always Next week, I have a client paying, I got a charge back, I'm sick, the shop burnt, insurance delays, car broke down, and on and on and on.. Does this sound like the same stories you guys have heard? I bet it does.. I'm for one am tiered of the B.S.. I am ready to answer all and tell all. But I think we all know already..
Who did you pay to have the kit started? Was is VRP or was it Vadim?
Old 10-16-2009 | 01:19 PM
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Damn guys, I was considering between VRP and Kleemann. I guess there are only 2-3 companies left that got enough ballz to stay in business.

Don't forget LET/Eurocharged, hopefully people with issues get the support they paid for by getting VRP products..
Old 10-16-2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
Jangy there is a place right here in Poway that is the best pulley maker around.. What ever happened to J&R Euro Specialist
Yes, I have noticed that there are quite a few fabricators here in SD. I love it!!

J&R has the business plans set and is waiting on financing . Get her done!!
Old 10-16-2009 | 01:54 PM
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Voctor's account is banned at this time because there is a dispute with internet brands.
Dispute with Internet Brands? OK

As far as pulley issues go, after 2 of the old version of the vrp pulley came apart VRP recalled over 40 units and sent out new updated replacements out to every customer that had the old version. Contacting Victor is hard to do but mainly because VPR is not his only and primary buisness. His full time job is software design. I am deal with him alot and it is very hard to get a hold of him, but leave a message or email him and he will get backj to you.
They only made 20 of the "old" version, so i am confused on why to send 40 replacements. Are you talking about their "newer" one with 4 splines?
Old 10-16-2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
My intent was to see where the E55k R&D is going to be coming from? For all of their faults, both VRUS and Vadim thought me a great deal and were instrumental in getting our rides to where we are today. Now, if they can't save face, who do we turn to?
You turn to vendors smart enough to stay away from using the forum as a way to interact with customers. Advertise, sponsor, fine. But many vendors on this forum have been character assasinated for having a customer problem dragged across these threads and posts.
Old 10-16-2009 | 02:59 PM
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Vadim is still doing fine. He is putting the finishing touches on my car which may be in the LA Auto Show again. He is busy with Lambos and Bently's now.
hmm. so what?? Why does some people on this board have to wait for a long time because he is busy. We are still people that are interested to pay money for the products, yes, may be we are not ballerz enough comparing to Lambo's and Bently's, but it is not how you run business.
Old 10-16-2009 | 02:59 PM
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I suspect that what we're seeing is a result of typical small business problems, especially those of small businesses with high average ticket size and the aftermarket car business in general.

It's always one more week, and $1,000 more dollars for aftermarket parts. It's just a pain getting them from the machinist, then the powerder coaters, and R&D in general. I've been on the vendor side and let's be real. This isn't PhD work here, just people who decided to turn there love of cars into a business.

Bigger businesses can avoid that problem due to higher cash flow and to some extent better standing with banks but I personally don't think that what we are seeing here is a problem with scammers but rather finances.

So for me it seems that instead of destroying vendors that are known for pushing the envelope and who are behind some of the fastest 55k's around we should be waiting and hoping for the best. It only makes the situation worse.

Now if I was owed $3k then I might be singing a different tune but bottom line: It's a economic problem, not the products themselves. If they could they would pump out 100 items a day.

This is why I got out of the parts business myself...
Old 10-16-2009 | 03:02 PM
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hmm. so what?? Why does some people on this board have to wait for a long time because he is busy. We are still people that are interested to pay money for the products, yes, may be we are not ballerz enough comparing to Lambo's and Bently's, but it is not how you run business.
Call him at 949-584-4446. I bet you he will answer the phone. He is always available and answer any questions. I call him practically everyday and he answers 99.9% of the time.

His products are still the best value you can find anywhere.


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