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Old 10-24-2009, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
Hey might be able to make it, but I dont really under stand the bracket racing thing???
Best way to race comparing drivers vs. the cars they drive.

You pick an ET
closest to the ET wins without going faster(break out) or leaving early (red light)

On your window you write in a dial(the time you will run closest to) say 12.51

The light is timed based on your dial( time on your car)

The driver with the best reaction time usually wins this race

Of course knowing your car and consistancy are also important.

Here is an example of a bracket race

car #1 dial=12.55
car #2 dial= 12.99

The tree is staggered giving car #2 a head start over car #1(.44)
Car #2 has a .250 reaction time
Car #1 has a .011 reaction time

Car #2 runs a 13.08
Car#1 runs a 12.60

Who wins?

I wanna say car #1 catches and passes but I want Evan to figure this out using algebra
Old 10-24-2009, 09:21 PM
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oh I see seems a lil confusing but im sure i can catch on, are other tuned performance car allowed besides MB's?
Old 10-24-2009, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
oh I see seems a lil confusing but im sure i can catch on, are other tuned performance car allowed besides MB's?
For sure.

This is all about the driver and the drivers ability in his own car.

The easiest way to think about it is as follows

The faster car is giving the slower car a jump. How big the jump is up to the drivers.

Say you pick 12.75 and I pick 12.75, we would leave at the same time the tree would be the same for both of us.

If you pick 13.75 you would be given a 1 second head start.
Old 10-24-2009, 09:38 PM
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ohh ok I think i get it now well I think Im going to come and my Brother in-law with his supercharged 600rwhp SRT-10 I keep talking about. We were gonna hit up speed world this weekend but he had a little accident so his car is getting repaired.
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:22 AM
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:58 AM
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Best way to race comparing drivers vs. the cars they drive.

You pick an ET
closest to the ET wins without going faster(break out) or leaving early (red light)

On your window you write in a dial(the time you will run closest to) say 12.51

The light is timed based on your dial( time on your car)

The driver with the best reaction time usually wins this race

Of course knowing your car and consistancy are also important.

Here is an example of a bracket race

car #1 dial=12.55
car #2 dial= 12.99

The tree is staggered giving car #2 a head start over car #1(.44)
Car #2 has a .250 reaction time
Car #1 has a .011 reaction time

Car #2 runs a 13.08
Car#1 runs a 12.60

Who wins?

I wanna say car #1 catches and passes but I want Evan to figure this out using algebra
Great scenario car 1 catches and passes on the top end because car one gave back .239 at the starting line based on reaction time. So car #1 can run 12.789 and still win the race. Car#2 also gave back .04 on Elapsed Time as well, giving Car #1 more room.

Now lets say your Car#2 and you get the head start and your almost at the finish and Car #1 is nowhere in sight (maybe they spun the tires and you got a great start), then you can let off and slow down so you don't run under your dial and breakout.

Also the term fender racing comes into play. This is how it works. Car #2 gets the head start and waits for Car#1 to catch up around 3/4 of the way down, and just when Car #1 starts to catch your bumper, you then step on it and keep him a fender behind all the way to the finish. It keeps you from breaking out, and forces Car #1 to stay in the throttle trying to catch you and possibly making them breakout if the dialed too high.

So the 3 qualifying sessions we get are important to get good launches and run 3 good baseline runs so you know what to dial in the first round. Yes it's ok to dial higher than your best run that day, so you can have some room to fender race. Just not like a whole second slower, then we call that sandbagging.

It's up to you if you prefer to chase or being chased. I like to chase and don't like to be chased by 9 second cars. It's pretty scary hearing a 9 second car come roaring at you, but feels great to beat one.

Originally Posted by RenntechE55
oh I see seems a lil confusing but im sure i can catch on, are other tuned performance car allowed besides MB's?
Yes all are welcome. The more the better and the greater the mix the better the bracket racing is. Last year it was myself and a 13 second car in the final. He did a great job and beat quite a few faster cars to get there.

Originally Posted by RenntechE55
ohh ok I think i get it now well I think Im going to come and my Brother in-law with his supercharged 600rwhp SRT-10 I keep talking about. We were gonna hit up speed world this weekend but he had a little accident so his car is getting repaired.
That's great. Look forward to seeing you out there. I was out there last night and won the event. It was heads up 11.99-12.99 class. You couldn't run faster than 11.99, and won the final with a 12.06 to a losing 12.04. I gained more than .02 at the starting line and passed him at the line without about 3' to go. It was a great race against one of the best out there.

Originally Posted by jangy
I'm out. Sorry.
Aw man, I was looking forward to spending the day with you again. I hope plans change and you can make it. I might make famoso, but not sure I want to miss a race.

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I'm in. Like to break-in my new custom motor in grand fashion!
oooohhhh a boosted C55!!! This may be round 2 of Famoso for you and Hooley. Wow that is going to be awesome. Thanks for coming.

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3. Juicee63
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5. Mercwhip
6.AMGCL65
7.Rennteche55
8.SRT-10 truck
Shaping up very nice. I have a few more from the other site. I'll update it in a few.

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Old 10-25-2009, 04:46 PM
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Evan, what kind of notice would be needed.
Old 10-26-2009, 04:38 AM
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Evan, what kind of notice would be needed.
The night before so I can put your name on a list at the gate. No prepay for racing, will be at the gate.
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
Evan, what kind of notice would be needed.
Lets drive down together
Old 10-27-2009, 06:31 PM
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Lets drive down together
Sounds like a good idea, a few spirited runs along the way
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I might have a friend with a VW Rabbit , with a few mods thats up on the fence about coming. Is he allowed and if so I just need to tell you the day before? Thanks
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Lets drive down together
I'm really considering it since I can't make Famoso this year. I'm hoping my wife will complete here deadline before the 18Th so she could visit her family in LA while a go to AZ and play.
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I'm really considering it since I can't make Famoso this year. I'm hoping my wife will complete here deadline before the 18Th so she could visit her family in LA while a go to AZ and play.
i wanna see your car here. i have a buddy whose car may be done by then that might make for a good race. he'll likely trap much higher, but b/c he wont be ableto launch it or get much traction, i bet it would be a good race.

and plus, i wanna see your fast/awesome/awesomely fast car
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Originally Posted by jturkel
i wanna see your car here. i have a buddy whose car may be done by then that might make for a good race. he'll likely trap much higher, but b/c he wont be ableto launch it or get much traction, i bet it would be a good race.

and plus, i wanna see your fast/awesome/awesomely fast car
Haha.....you already have a E that's gonna be much quicker than me. I promise I'll make it if I can. My boss already approved my time off for Friday and Monday and now the ***** in my wife's court. It will be a brutal trip though...12 hours.
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
Haha.....you already have a E that's gonna be much quicker than me. I promise I'll make it if I can. My boss already approved my time off for Friday and Monday and now the ***** in my wife's court. It will be a brutal trip though...12 hours.
the car i'm talking about is not an E (rather around a 700-750whp supra....we're getting the motor in now)....though i would love to see a race between you and mikey (chiromikey)

GL with the wife lol

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I'm really considering it since I can't make Famoso this year. I'm hoping my wife will complete here deadline before the 18Th so she could visit her family in LA while a go to AZ and play.
if you come are you going to trailer or drive? i might have a project for you if you trailer.
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if you come are you going to trailer or drive? i might have a project for you if you trailer.
I think trailering would be the smart move....just in case ! What's up?
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I think trailering would be the smart move....just in case ! What's up?
wanna drop off my duc in the bay area on your way back...it needs custom tuning at factorypro?
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I might have a friend with a VW Rabbit , with a few mods thats up on the fence about coming. Is he allowed and if so I just need to tell you the day before? Thanks
Sure, last time I was trying to keep it as much MB's as possible and some that came didn't want to race. So this time all are welcome. I'd like to see a MB or Crossfire win the race against all comers. So yes have your buddies come out and have some fun. Maybe they will get hooked and come out more often.

So Mikey we making plans for Famoso yet?
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...So Mikey we making plans for Famoso yet?
i'd love to but things still have not come together yet.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i'd love to but things still have not come together yet.
Are you going to be able to make it to speedworld on the 19th , I would really like to see you run.
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Are you going to be able to make it to speedworld on the 19th , I would really like to see you run.
I'm planning on it.


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