V12Godspeed

I think Vadim has them...You may want to contact vadim.

BRABUS786

ok i will contact them and see if i can still get them,

Out of SLR Or kleemans which are better????

thanks

Andy0331

Like I mentioned in my first post, the Kleemanns are drop in cams with no other mods necessary, while the SLR's are not & require some mods to fit and work. Performance wise, I think the SLR's are a bit better, but probably not worth the effort. For max performance, go with the PTE/VRP cams, but they will require retuning to function well.

BRABUS786

hi

With the VRP / PTE cams fit direct in without any mods like the SLR??

i can get the car re-map with no probs again

thanks

acid

blackbenzz

PTE cams require no modification. They drop right in

BRABUS786

Where else can i get them ? do you know anyone else with some for sale, if not i may just get the Kleemans from here, but i can wait a few weeks for the cams as my car is still in the paint shop.

thanks

acid

BRABUS786

hey

I brought the Kleemann Cams as i got them for a goooood price

Thanks everyone for the help

ACID

jikjak

oh nice!
what were u able to get them for and have u installed them yet?

hooleyboy

i just swapped in some E55 cams in my C55 and I gained zero HP. Man I thought I would have picked up some thing or moved the power around. But I got nothing. I might have to try some SLR cams next. Or get a set made to my custom specs.

Tech-Tune

Were they n/a E55 cams or E55 Kompressor cams?

Thanks

hooleyboy

55k cams

Tech-Tune

I've heard theres minor differences between n/a 55 cams and 55K cams.

I'm in the process of upgrading to PTE cams.
Curious to see what gains I get over my 55K cams (post tuning if necessary).

Exotic-metal55

I would and will put my money into porting heads verses the cams specs I have seen floating around so far. Of course, it will take the perfect head porter and one that truly cares about velocity over flow numbers on paper..

prodigymb

why are the e55 cams so expensive. $2.5k + for a set of v8 cams....and i have yet to see a solid before/after cam dyno to show real gains. i have however seen a car make 10 more whp as my car with SLR cams and same torque....on same dyno, same day.

BRABUS786

hey

I will fit the cams in my self , i will do a dyno before and after with the cams and keep you updated,

It will be a few weeks before i fit my mods to the car as its still in the body shop,

I got a spare set off heads which i will port, but again thats a on going mission.

acid

Full Throttle

Because the average MB driver thinks the engine is magic and requires parts to be sold 400/500% over cost. A vendor recently quoted me $7000 for a set of headers and a mid-pipe.

PTE

The OEM cam is a Chilled Cast Iron 1 piece. Economical to make and long life span. Why Mercaeds gets the money they ask , is beyond me $1275.00 apiece for SLR cams. Limited Production Maybe . I can explain way our cams cost more. There are tons of SB Chevy single cam Motors & lot of aftermarket Manufactures for all kinds of cam Grinds. Just a big Market for a Single cam in block motor. COMP Thumper series $295.95

Mercedes M-113 motor has 2 overhead cams

#1 Hollow Billet steel
#2 The lobe blanks are pressed into place & Move to their close reference spot
#3 Then the lobes are furnaced brazed into that spot
#4 Lobes are Ground to spec
#5 Induction Hardened

Very labor intensive . But an excellant product for a limited product, 50 set run. None of the US aftermarket Manufactures wanted to do a small Batch

Then there is Export / Import duties . Shipping from Europe ,Then shipping to you. Insurance to protect you & me.You can add the Numbers up, $795. Euro times 2 cams + Shipping & duties X 1.5 average exchange rate. I wish there was a easier way. Cheers __PTEngineering

PTE

Hooley, I do believe you saw no increase , When going from N/A cams to 55K cams. There just is not enough difference between the two cams. There was not enough difference in LIFT or were valve start to open to make a great torque or HP increase.

When I was doing my own testing on my N/A 55 & on Rflow 306's E-55K. We installed a set of SLR cams & only saw 11 HP on a N/A motor & 16 HP on a 55K motor . all at the rear wheel. A while back somebody had a cam Doctor checker plot done on N/A 55 & 55K , Maybe one of our forum members can search under ( DAMN CAMS) Please remember the Rocker arm ratio is 1.49 to 1 The 1st Attached, is Rflow306 Stock cam V/S SLR cam dyno sheet. The 2nd Attachment is a print spec sheet from a Cam doctor Blue is N/A 55 , Red is 55K , Black is Schrick off the shelve. which is No longer stocked by Schrick . Happy reading__PTEngineering

Found the post https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...er-cams-2.html

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Sunir

Patrick so there is a difference and the cams you made specifically for the AMG - 55K engines are different than say a non-S/C 55 engine. This being the case looks like your PTE cams are the most aggresive and highest hp/tq yeilding cams, correct? This is in comparison to any schrick varient which are Evosport's or Kleemens (from what I understand these are the same)...and the SLR is slightly more aggresice than the shrick but not as high yeilding as your PTE cams...right?

stevebez

Hey PTE thanks for the info ... I dont see the schrick specs on the second attachment... ???

How much more lift / duration do the schricks have? In your opinion how much power do they make?

usmankhan355

asad i saw your last car on youtube!!!!! you slaughtered that lambo!!!! lol

if your ordering the kleeman headers from new let me know and make it x2 - see if we can benifit a discount....

usman (b'mouth)

PTE

Stevebez;The second attachment , I did a cut & paste of Schricks Catilog. It is even milder than a N/A cam. It was a grind for M-113 4.3s & 5.0s

Sunir: I tried to cover N/A 5.5 & 5.5 K with one grind spec. So there is no difference . You are on the money with your synopsis. Just the Schick was a cam built 4.3s & 5.0s for as stated to Stevebez.

I also found the dyno sheet for Rflow306 E-55 with the VRP/PTE cams . It showed a 10 rwhp over the SLR cams & 26 rwhp over the stock cams. No changes were made in the ECU tune Rflow 306 got from Active Autowerke, the BMW tuner in south Miami.. After some fuel was added to the upper RPM band we found another 8 rwhp and buzzed the motor to 6900 rpm. Cheers _PTEngineering

BRABUS786

lol

You see my best time??

acid

stevebez

So is this the Schrick grind used by Kleemann/Evosport? I am told the Kleeman has higher left and longer duration... no clue on exact specs... but thats what they say.

I also heard from before the Kleemann falls somewhere between stock and SLR?

Mrbig

PTE cams how much are they goign for ? Are they in stock ?