Stage 2 Eurocharged e55 11.514@122.90 with the esp on,124.9 mph traps with esp off
12-07-2009, 02:51 AM
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If you beleive what Juicce posted....I am as sure my car trapped 119.5 stock as I am that hes an ******* with some kind of personal agenda and he really needs to quit with the bull****.
I never questioned that it might not have trapped 119.5 stock.It did and many cars have been faster.....Show me where that could have even come from besides Juicces imagination.
I never questioned that it might not have trapped 119.5 stock.It did and many cars have been faster.....Show me where that could have even come from besides Juicces imagination.
Sorry but I just had to ask this last question.
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12-07-2009, 02:56 AM
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Dont worry though,I will be doing the same mods and well see if 133mph traps are doable without n2o.Personally,I think 10's are possible without exhaust work with a race gas tune and Stage 2 but what do I know...I dont think the mph is possible just because these cars dont seem to high mph,probably because of the bypass bleeding off boost....
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12-07-2009, 02:59 AM
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Its safe to say my car trapped 119.5 on a 95 degree day in Alabama,dunno what the humidity is but here in the south I would think at least 60-70%.
I dont know what to tell u guys but the car was a strong runner stock and ALWAYS runs best when hot lapped,ALWAYS.Stock or modified.That alone defy's logic but its true....
12-07-2009, 03:02 AM
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I didnt say I may have been wrong about the stock trap.I am as sure about that as I am that you are an *******.
MANY,MANY,MANY,MANY e55's have trapped over 120 stock,in 2003,Motor Trend was running 121.More than 20 on youtube alone at last count,some as old as 3 years....but I am a liar and I am taking away from his huge 119mph accomplishment?Give it up dude....
And last I checked,the thread in question was about stock cars trapping 119 and over.You are the one hopping iin threads posting non relevant info,not me.
And forum rules prohibit personal attacks and you still wont quit with yours.
TEAM AMG??
MANY,MANY,MANY,MANY e55's have trapped over 120 stock,in 2003,Motor Trend was running 121.More than 20 on youtube alone at last count,some as old as 3 years....but I am a liar and I am taking away from his huge 119mph accomplishment?Give it up dude....
And last I checked,the thread in question was about stock cars trapping 119 and over.You are the one hopping iin threads posting non relevant info,not me.
And forum rules prohibit personal attacks and you still wont quit with yours.
TEAM AMG??
So you trapped 119.5 stock in 95 degrees and 100% humidity?
And now with a LET tune, a pulley, a heat exchanger and a pump, and drag radials you have gone 122.90 in 45 degrees
All those mods for 3.4 mph gain from stock, on a fifty degree cooler day.
The mods have made your E55 slower.
Another way you can say this is your mods have done absolutely nothing.
You don't get it do you ?
THE E55 stock NEVER TRAPPED 119.50 or better in 95 degrees and 100% humidity. Sure you could do it today at Alabama International, you said yourself IT IS COLD!!!
12-07-2009, 03:09 AM
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Its safe to say my car trapped 119.5 on a 95 degree day in Alabama,dunno what the humidity is but here in the south I would think at least 60-70%.
I dont know what to tell u guys but the car was a strong runner stock and ALWAYS runs best when hot lapped,ALWAYS.Stock or modified.That alone defy's logic but its true....
I dont know what to tell u guys but the car was a strong runner stock and ALWAYS runs best when hot lapped,ALWAYS.Stock or modified.That alone defy's logic but its true....
E.T. 11.51 (sec)
Trap Speed 122.90 (mph)
Measured DA -700 (feet)
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Corrected to 3200(feet) DA
Corrected ET 12.061 (sec)
Corrected Trap Speed 117.182 (mph)
12-07-2009, 03:10 AM
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So you trapped 119.5 stock in 95 degrees and 100% humidity?
And now with a LET tune, a pulley, a heat exchanger and a pump, and drag radials you have gone 122.90 in 45 degrees
All those mods for 3.4 mph gain from stock, on a fifty degree cooler day.
The mods have made your E55 slower.
Another way you can say this is your mods have done absolutely nothing.
You don't get it do you ?
THE E55 stock NEVER TRAPPED 119.50 or better in 95 degrees and 100% humidity. Sure you could do it today at Alabama International, you said yourself IT IS COLD!!!
And now with a LET tune, a pulley, a heat exchanger and a pump, and drag radials you have gone 122.90 in 45 degrees
All those mods for 3.4 mph gain from stock, on a fifty degree cooler day.
The mods have made your E55 slower.
Another way you can say this is your mods have done absolutely nothing.
You don't get it do you ?
THE E55 stock NEVER TRAPPED 119.50 or better in 95 degrees and 100% humidity. Sure you could do it today at Alabama International, you said yourself IT IS COLD!!!
The esp killed many hp.
I dont care whos e55 ran today,stock or not,it would have spun horribly,might have come close to the 119mph but it would have been in the high 12's.
And my 123 mph is better than many cars with headers/tb.On a day that the esp can be turned off,there are several .10's in et reduction
Have you not said that esp kills power and et??And that I have posted that I ran 115 or 116 hot lapping the car with the esp on?Dont think with the esp off or cool down that it could pick up?Yes/No?
Thts not the case as it was hot lapped and still had the esp on when it ran 119.5 but still....
Im done,ill post agian when its in the 10's.....
12-07-2009, 03:11 AM
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Your car right now could not trap 119.50 on a clean pass in 95 degrees and 100% humidity
E.T. 11.51 (sec)
Trap Speed 122.90 (mph)
Measured DA -700 (feet)
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Corrected to 3200(feet) DA
Corrected ET 12.061 (sec)
Corrected Trap Speed 117.182 (mph)
E.T. 11.51 (sec)
Trap Speed 122.90 (mph)
Measured DA -700 (feet)
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Corrected to 3200(feet) DA
Corrected ET 12.061 (sec)
Corrected Trap Speed 117.182 (mph)
I am done....
Ill be back soon with a 10 second slip and yall can still talk trash...
12-07-2009, 03:20 AM
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You just dont understand and I will lay it out for ya....
The esp killed many hp.
I dont care whos e55 ran today,stock or not,it would have spun horribly,might have come close to the 119mph but it would have been in the high 12's.
And my 123 mph is better than many cars with headers/tb.On a day that the esp can be turned off,there are several .10's in et reduction
Have you not said that esp kills power and et??And that I have posted that I ran 115 or 116 hot lapping the car with the esp on?Dont think with the esp off or cool down that it could pick up?Yes/No?
Thts not the case as it was hot lapped and still had the esp on when it ran 119.5 but still....
Im done,ill post agian when its in the 10's.....
The esp killed many hp.
I dont care whos e55 ran today,stock or not,it would have spun horribly,might have come close to the 119mph but it would have been in the high 12's.
And my 123 mph is better than many cars with headers/tb.On a day that the esp can be turned off,there are several .10's in et reduction
Have you not said that esp kills power and et??And that I have posted that I ran 115 or 116 hot lapping the car with the esp on?Dont think with the esp off or cool down that it could pick up?Yes/No?
Thts not the case as it was hot lapped and still had the esp on when it ran 119.5 but still....
Im done,ill post agian when its in the 10's.....
He means the ESP will kill power when it's activated, tire slippage causes this. If the ESP is off and your tires spin, much like you did off the line, you lose momentum and waste power. Your ET will be slower correct? ESP will not be why you lost power, ESP will stop the spinning and slow the engine down to stop the power being wasted and to get the car moving forward. Having ESP on will only act as an aid of a bad run by activating the warning light for you. With ESP off you will keep spinning until traction is gained, what would the reason for the slower ET then be? A clean run requires no tire slippage, ESP on or off will not and should not be the blame for the lose in power. THe power is lost prior to it coming on.
12-07-2009, 03:31 AM
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Even with the esp off,it is still "on" and will activate.If u hit the button on the dash to turn off,it will still work.
You have to put the car in dyno mode for it not to activate.
Maybe you guys dont know how the esp works but it works on applying the breaks and dropping cylinders so it certainily does cut down on power,ALOT of power.
When you go WOT at around 50mph in my car with the esp off,it will jump sideways spinning and then it kills the ignition and loses 100's of hp,almost like reaching up and turning the ignition off.MURDERS power.And the faster your car is,the more power you are losing in esp.
You have to put the car in dyno mode for it not to activate.
Maybe you guys dont know how the esp works but it works on applying the breaks and dropping cylinders so it certainily does cut down on power,ALOT of power.
When you go WOT at around 50mph in my car with the esp off,it will jump sideways spinning and then it kills the ignition and loses 100's of hp,almost like reaching up and turning the ignition off.MURDERS power.And the faster your car is,the more power you are losing in esp.
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- He does a lot of research and mods his car and gets it dialed in nicely, then dynos on a dynojet.
----> Some doubt his numbers, some accuse him of lying, and others write it off as something wrong with the machine. Everyone asks him to dyno somewhere else and actually point him to a dyno place that is supposed to be verified and reads very low.
- He travels 6+ hours and takes his car to that dyno dynamics place known to "dyno low" compared to others and the car dynos well
----> People think his numbers are still too high and now they accuse that dyno machine of reading too high and ask him to back it up at the track.
- He goes to Sacramento Raceway and traps 129 to 130 mph
----> People immediately accuse him of lying and running nitrous while others ask him to run at a different track.
- He invites people to look at his car, examine it, and verify that it has NO NITROUS at the track right before each run
----> Every single person who actually verified the car at the track (including myself and other respected members) ends up being called a liar as well trying to hide the truth.
- He travels 7+ hours to race at one of the worst tracks in California.... he races at Fontana, and he does so at WORST possible conditions
----> Here is an idea of what the conditions at Fontana are like:
- He races in mid July @ 105 F and approximately 4000+ ft of DA
- The track is already at 1250 ft elevation
- The track goes 1.6% uphill near the last 240 ft
- The track is surrounded by crappy air full of dust and ash from surrounding factories and commercial train stations
- The track suffers from head and cross winds way too often
- Track prep is sometimes a hit or miss
- There are usually 400+ cars on an open test n tune day, which means he would get only 3 runs in about 8 hours
- And to top it all off, the track is 7+ hours away from him, which means it would cost him 2 days of travel yet he still does it
- He continues to mod his car and then traps 133 mph back at Sacramento
----> He is further accused of using nitrous, and just as they accused the dyno machine, some are now accusing the entire track of being defective
In the mean time, the number of people who have actually met him at the race track and were welcomed to look at his car and examine it is growing but they are still being referred to as the ever-growing group of liars...... and still no sign of nitrous.The man dynoed his car at so many different places, raced it at so many different tracks, tried all kinds of different runs, video tapped his races, and did everything else possible that was asked of him yet some people (including yourself) still think he is using nitrous and regardless of what he does to convince them, they'll still think something is off.
- He mods his car some more and continues to enjoy it and then he stops posting his times completely on this board (not to mention that he hasn't even posted his latest times yet....)
----> Now people are asking him to hire an official NHRA inspector/examiner to certify that the car has no nitrous. Ironically, even if he did hire an NHRA examiner and had him examine his car and video tape the examination, someone would still accuse the examiner of being involved in a conspiracy theory. What's next? Take the car to U.S. customs and have them X-Ray the whole thing?
Anyways, so to answer your question...... yes, he was called a liar and attacked a few times my friend (and then some)
Oh.... and this is just a summary of what happened to him (with a lot of other details left out)
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Even with the esp off,it is still "on" and will activate.If u hit the button on the dash to turn off,it will still work.
You have to put the car in dyno mode for it not to activate.
Maybe you guys dont know how the esp works but it works on applying the breaks and dropping cylinders so it certainily does cut down on power,ALOT of power.
You have to put the car in dyno mode for it not to activate.
Maybe you guys dont know how the esp works but it works on applying the breaks and dropping cylinders so it certainily does cut down on power,ALOT of power.
Whether ESP is on or off if you don't have a clean run you will not run the fastest. You can still have tire slippage and in turn the run will be slower. Dyno mode does not give you more power, it just delays the cars safety systems. It's not a magical feature that gives you 30+ hp and better traction to ensure a clean run.
The extra trap speed you are getting when you run with ESP off isn't because you stopped ESP from stealing it away from you. It's from your tires spinning and with ESP off, that yellow triangle isn't flashing in your face telling you you just lost power and the car in turn applied the brakes to stop the spinning. If you are not sure of what I am explaing ask someone else to explain it in their own way and maybe it will make sense to you.
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Are YOU kidding me? Here's a quick summary of what happened to Alan.
- He does a lot of research and mods his car and gets it dialed in nicely, then dynos on a dynojet.
----> Some doubt his numbers, some accuse him of lying, and others write it off as something wrong with the machine.
- He takes his car to a dyno dynamics place known to "dyno low" compared to others
----> His numbers are still too high and people now accuse that dyno machine of being too high and ask him to back it up at the track.
- He goes to the track and traps 129 to 130 mph
----> People immediately accuse him of lying and running nitrous while others ask him to run at a different track.
- He invites people to look at his car, examine it, and verify that it has NO NITROUS at the track right before each run
----> Every single person who verified the car at the track (including myself and other respected members) ends up being called liars as well.
- He travels 7+ hours to race at one of the worst tracks in California.... he races at Fontana, and he does it at WORST conditions possible
----> Here is an idea of what the conditions at Fontana are like:
- He continues to mod his car and then traps 133 mph
----> He is further accused of using nitrous, and like the dyno machine, the entire track is now being accused of being defective In the mean time, the number of people who have actually met him at the race track and were welcomed to look at his car and examine it is growing but they are still being referred to as the ever-growing group of liars...... and still no sign of nitrous.
The man dynoed his car at so many different places, raced it at so many different tracks, tried all kinds of different runs, video tapped his races, and did everything else possible that was asked of him yet some people (including yourself) still think he is using nitrous and regardless of what he does to convince them, they'll still think something is off. I bet even if he did hire an NHRA examiner and had him examine his car and video tape the examination, someone would accuse the examiner of being involved in a conspiracy theory
Anyways, so to answer your question...... yes, he was called a liar and attacked a few times and then some
Oh.... and this is just a summary with a lot of other details left out
- He does a lot of research and mods his car and gets it dialed in nicely, then dynos on a dynojet.
----> Some doubt his numbers, some accuse him of lying, and others write it off as something wrong with the machine.
- He takes his car to a dyno dynamics place known to "dyno low" compared to others
----> His numbers are still too high and people now accuse that dyno machine of being too high and ask him to back it up at the track.
- He goes to the track and traps 129 to 130 mph
----> People immediately accuse him of lying and running nitrous while others ask him to run at a different track.
- He invites people to look at his car, examine it, and verify that it has NO NITROUS at the track right before each run
----> Every single person who verified the car at the track (including myself and other respected members) ends up being called liars as well.
- He travels 7+ hours to race at one of the worst tracks in California.... he races at Fontana, and he does it at WORST conditions possible
----> Here is an idea of what the conditions at Fontana are like:
- He races in mid July @ 105 F and approximately 4000 ft of DA
- The track is already at 1250 ft elevation
- The track goes 1.6% uphill near the last 240 ft
- The track is surrounded by crappy air full of dust and ash from surrounding factories and commercial train stations
- The track suffers from head and cross winds way too often
- Track prep is a hit or miss
- There are usually 400+ cars on an open test n tune day, which means he would get only 3 runs in about 8 hours
- And to top it all off, the track is 7+ hours away from him yet he still does it
- He continues to mod his car and then traps 133 mph
----> He is further accused of using nitrous, and like the dyno machine, the entire track is now being accused of being defective
In the mean time, the number of people who have actually met him at the race track and were welcomed to look at his car and examine it is growing but they are still being referred to as the ever-growing group of liars...... and still no sign of nitrous.The man dynoed his car at so many different places, raced it at so many different tracks, tried all kinds of different runs, video tapped his races, and did everything else possible that was asked of him yet some people (including yourself) still think he is using nitrous and regardless of what he does to convince them, they'll still think something is off. I bet even if he did hire an NHRA examiner and had him examine his car and video tape the examination, someone would accuse the examiner of being involved in a conspiracy theory
Anyways, so to answer your question...... yes, he was called a liar and attacked a few times and then some
Oh.... and this is just a summary with a lot of other details left out
Let me address your reply MO, first off this is all
Stop lying to protect Alan! Liar!
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Well I know one of them has enough pull to have movie directors put MB's into their movies. Wish I knew that guy!
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12-07-2009, 10:25 AM
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hey guys,didnt read the thread yet since im off to work but you got me excited for my beast,i have the same mods and a 82mm tb coming,I will have dynos stock,then modded,then retuned,then tb,then retuned tb ect.
I have run my car over 15 times at the track and have all the slips some where
stock
modded
and will have new times with the new tb next season.
I hope to break the 530-550whp mark with the bigger tb also
I have run my car over 15 times at the track and have all the slips some where
stock
modded
and will have new times with the new tb next season.
I hope to break the 530-550whp mark with the bigger tb also
12-07-2009, 11:23 AM
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12-07-2009, 12:27 PM
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LOL! Broke, I'm sure you must have heard this before but I'm saying it anyways, If you didn't come off as such a "know it all" you would be better accepted.
Thanks for posting the vids. Maybe next time they will just let you start at the 60ft mark and not make you back up?
Just breaking your shoes, not picking on you.
Congrats on your new PB's
Thanks for posting the vids. Maybe next time they will just let you start at the 60ft mark and not make you back up?
Just breaking your shoes, not picking on you. Congrats on your new PB's
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Are YOU kidding me? Here's a quick summary of what happened to Alan.
- He does a lot of research and mods his car and gets it dialed in nicely, then dynos on a dynojet.
----> Some doubt his numbers, some accuse him of lying, and others write it off as something wrong with the machine.
- He takes his car to a dyno dynamics place known to "dyno low" compared to others
----> His numbers are still too high and people now accuse that dyno machine of being too high and ask him to back it up at the track.
- He goes to the track and traps 129 to 130 mph
----> People immediately accuse him of lying and running nitrous while others ask him to run at a different track.
- He invites people to look at his car, examine it, and verify that it has NO NITROUS at the track right before each run
----> Every single person who verified the car at the track (including myself and other respected members) ends up being called liars as well.
- He travels 7+ hours to race at one of the worst tracks in California.... he races at Fontana, and he does it at WORST conditions possible
----> Here is an idea of what the conditions at Fontana are like:
- He continues to mod his car and then traps 133 mph
----> He is further accused of using nitrous, and like the dyno machine, the entire track is now being accused of being defective In the mean time, the number of people who have actually met him at the race track and were welcomed to look at his car and examine it is growing but they are still being referred to as the ever-growing group of liars...... and still no sign of nitrous.
The man dynoed his car at so many different places, raced it at so many different tracks, tried all kinds of different runs, video tapped his races, and did everything else possible that was asked of him yet some people (including yourself) still think he is using nitrous and regardless of what he does to convince them, they'll still think something is off.
- Now he mods some more and continues to enjoy his car and he hasn't even posted his latest times yet....
----> and now people are asking him to hire an official NHRA inspector/examiner to certify that the car has no nitrous. Ironically, even if he did hire an NHRA examiner and had him examine his car and video tape the examination, someone would still accuse the examiner of being involved in a conspiracy theory. What's next? Take the car to U.S. customs and have them X-Ray the whole thing?
Anyways, so to answer your question...... yes, he was called a liar and attacked a few times my friend (and then some)
Oh.... and this is just a summary of what happened to him (with a lot of other details left out)
- He does a lot of research and mods his car and gets it dialed in nicely, then dynos on a dynojet.
----> Some doubt his numbers, some accuse him of lying, and others write it off as something wrong with the machine.
- He takes his car to a dyno dynamics place known to "dyno low" compared to others
----> His numbers are still too high and people now accuse that dyno machine of being too high and ask him to back it up at the track.
- He goes to the track and traps 129 to 130 mph
----> People immediately accuse him of lying and running nitrous while others ask him to run at a different track.
- He invites people to look at his car, examine it, and verify that it has NO NITROUS at the track right before each run
----> Every single person who verified the car at the track (including myself and other respected members) ends up being called liars as well.
- He travels 7+ hours to race at one of the worst tracks in California.... he races at Fontana, and he does it at WORST conditions possible
----> Here is an idea of what the conditions at Fontana are like:
- He races in mid July @ 105 F and approximately 4000 ft of DA
- The track is already at 1250 ft elevation
- The track goes 1.6% uphill near the last 240 ft
- The track is surrounded by crappy air full of dust and ash from surrounding factories and commercial train stations
- The track suffers from head and cross winds way too often
- Track prep is a hit or miss
- There are usually 400+ cars on an open test n tune day, which means he would get only 3 runs in about 8 hours
- And to top it all off, the track is 7+ hours away from him yet he still does it
- He continues to mod his car and then traps 133 mph
----> He is further accused of using nitrous, and like the dyno machine, the entire track is now being accused of being defective
In the mean time, the number of people who have actually met him at the race track and were welcomed to look at his car and examine it is growing but they are still being referred to as the ever-growing group of liars...... and still no sign of nitrous.The man dynoed his car at so many different places, raced it at so many different tracks, tried all kinds of different runs, video tapped his races, and did everything else possible that was asked of him yet some people (including yourself) still think he is using nitrous and regardless of what he does to convince them, they'll still think something is off.
- Now he mods some more and continues to enjoy his car and he hasn't even posted his latest times yet....
----> and now people are asking him to hire an official NHRA inspector/examiner to certify that the car has no nitrous. Ironically, even if he did hire an NHRA examiner and had him examine his car and video tape the examination, someone would still accuse the examiner of being involved in a conspiracy theory. What's next? Take the car to U.S. customs and have them X-Ray the whole thing?
Anyways, so to answer your question...... yes, he was called a liar and attacked a few times my friend (and then some)
Oh.... and this is just a summary of what happened to him (with a lot of other details left out)
Bassn - I hope none of my postings have influenced your decision to remain "hush-hush" about your significant track achievements; I thought the statistical data shared in the thread hhughes started was one of the more interesting discussions to be had on this topic in recent threads. Best of luck the rest of the season - hope you improve on your own records.
