TPMS-Option or Come Standard
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TPMS-Option or Come Standard
My brother in law just bought a 2008 E63
and he doesn't have TPMS indicator in the cluster, not that we can see. I thought this was a standard option on all late model car or is this a factory option?
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The TPMS wheels sensors were an option, I believe for 2010 they are standard. Some say the sensors can be a pain in the butt at times. I have them on my C300, and after you calibrate your car, they work just fine. If the tire pressure defiant form what was calibrated then, they will alert you. Now tire pressures fluctuate during the summer and winter, pressures rise and fall, just be aware of that fact. But I like them, I wish I had order them on my E63, I just check my wheels every month, to check tire pressure which is a god thing. we should all check tire pressures every month.
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I love the TPMS on my Turbo, it show all 4 wheels psi. I think this should be how TPMS should be on all car not just a light that come on so yo cna guess which tire is low.
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Same here on mine plus the GTR- the M3 and ISF just have warnings if the pressure leaves a certain range. But the M3 will say which tire is low if the warning is triggered.
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The TPMS wheels sensors were an option, I believe for 2010 they are standard. Some say the sensors can be a pain in the butt at times. I have them on my C300, and after you calibrate your car, they work just fine. If the tire pressure defiant form what was calibrated then, they will alert you. Now tire pressures fluctuate during the summer and winter, pressures rise and fall, just be aware of that fact. But I like them, I wish I had order them on my E63, I just check my wheels every month, to check tire pressure which is a god thing. we should all check tire pressures every month.
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Keep in mind that MB dumbed down the system when compared to previous optional system. Its all in the interest of JDP. You all know that there are enough out there that will see a psi drop/rise due to temperature and immediately call, etc.
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I have the TPMS on my 2009 E63. It's like most systems that only goes off when one or more tires are low. The advanced system sold on Canada cars tells what each tire pressure is at. The manual really sucks because it does not tell how to calibrate the system. Checked the damn tires for the first time and they all had about 25 lbs.
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07 E63, 12 E350, 14 GLK350, 16 C450
No TPMS on Mine
I have an 07 E63 P2 pkg, no TPMS. My Service Advisor was very surprised to see it not there, but I guess if you think about how its also extra for the bluetooth hookup makes sense. I have a buddy with SL55 and he turned his off cuz it sucks. I have had it on my past M3 and was great, and also past Acura and Infiniti and worked well too. Sounds like MB's just blows...
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All engine with serial numbers before 60658, had the inferior head bolts. All Serial numbers after 60658, were equipped with the new improved head bolts.
My 07 E63 engine serial number is 156983 60 006635, so it was the 006635 engine produced which is before 60658, so I had the inferior head bolts.
I can tell you that all 2007 thru 2009 have the bad head bolts, but only a small number of these had actual documented failures.
So AMG started installing the new revised head bolts, on all the M156 engine produced after the 60658 engine rolled out of their Affalterbach assembly plant.
And I believe that this started happening in 2010-2011 time frame.
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Welcome and you are doing all the right things to line out your ride. You may want to give your VIN to a friendly service tech and have him see what all has been serviced or warrantied out on your car.
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MY 2007 E63 (build date in 2006) did NOT have TPMS, but I went and paid full boat for a set of 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors to install after receiving confirmation from some AVIN "tech" (I am using that term very loosely here!) that their TPMS Control Unit would work with "any" 433 TPMS. Well, I should have known better than to take their wholesome knowledge for it! That said, I have 4 new tires installed with them and I'm trying to make it work. Problem is, I'm not entirely sure the 433 Frequency will work with parts given under the EPC, even though they were supposedly standard with the Siemen's System since 2005? The reason I'm not sure is due to the Beru Systems being used in W211 until 2004. Being that my E63 is a first year, it may have retained the Beru Main Harness connection (under rear NAV or under Driver Seat?) for whatever reason until perhaps a later date and the EPC will not necessarily specify which one is which but only to provide a part #!?
I want TPMS due to the fact that during a brief time of driving (4 months) between my first build where I had the IM, Heads rebuilt, front suspension, billet pulleys, F1 Fabrications Adjustable Front Upper Control Arms, and before my current latest build that started 5000 mi later at the dawn of the CCP Virus after my Rear Main Seal went and I proceeded to rebuild the whole rear end with 3.06 Gears, I was driving across Florida to Tampa and found myself passing a couple Semi's in 4th gear at around 5000rpm! A couple miles down the road I pulled over to check Oil (due to my leaking Rear Main causing white smoke to emanate from the X-pipe of my exhaust!) and I happened to look down and notice my Driver Rear Tire was completely flat!! Only the beefy Michelin Sidewalls were what kept my rims from getting eaten alive that day! Turns out I had a roofing nail hit perfectly in between treads, so I repressurized the tire and got it fixed locally in about an hour! I was amazed that the rest of the suspension/car was so evenly weighted that I wouldn't have even noticed it had it not been for my pulling over and seeing it!!! I was blown away that I made that pass without even feeling it!! Fortunately it was a dead straight road otherwise I might have realized it too late!!
After some further research in EPC, it appears that in the Model W211277 Wagon (E63) the Siemens system allows for either a 315 or 433 Frequency Antennae in the rear but only allows for 2 X 125 Frequency Antennae in the front. So, being that there are no 125 Frequency TPMS Sensors at all, does this mean that the Front 125 Frequency can recognize both 315 and 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors? In addition, it offers a non- descript Control Unit (that must pick-up both 315 & 433 TPMS in the Front & Rear) lodged in the rear. I’ve heard people chime in stating to be sure to pair the Antennae with the TPMS Sensor, but this fact throws that reasoning into question! Could it be that the 125 Frequency Front Antennae can recognize either the 315 or 433 but output at 125 Frequency to allow the Control Unit to distinguish between front and rear? Otherwise, why does not EPC list anything but 125 Frequency for Siemens Front Antennae but only list 315 and 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors for the rear? The “Tire Pressure Control” Harness that is offered are either the Code “470”, which references Fan Clutch, ABS, and TPM “Low Line 470” in its description, or the Code “475” TPC (control) & TPM (monitor), or “475 Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) High Line/Mid Line + 489 (Airmatic Dual Control Semi Active) + 809 ( After May -2005). The latter part No. is (A211-440-10-05 or 12-05).
The W212077 (E63), on the other hand, has only the 433.92 Frequency TPMS Sensors, no Antennae in any wheel wells ( Bonus! ), One Control Unit in the Rear (A000-900-37-04) along with a short Harness #50 in Diagram (which itself may be some sort of Antenna because of its odd shape?) Part No- ( A212-540-78-13) which appears to connect to item #590 TPC Harness (A212-540-69-35) that is wired from the rear passenger side wheel well to B Pillar across Drivers Side presumably to “connect” under driver seat to the Main Wiring Harness (Hmmm?). Could this be universally “connected to” earlier (ie-2007 E63) Main Harnesses? If so, where might this harness connect to in my 2007E63? Under the NAV Unit/Driver Seat/Other? Is there a specific socket for it to connect to or is the fact that the harness comes from the Control Unit thereby mean it can be connected to the CANBUS, which can be done in multiple places, as that may make installation even easier if this harness can be run from the Rear Wheel Well to possibly the Spot Under the Rear NAV Unit?!? But that would make it too easy!
The W212077 (E63 Sedan) however has only the 433.92 Frequency TPMS Sensors, no Antennae in any wheel wells ( Bonus! ), One Control Unit in the Rear (A 000-900-37-04, along with a short Harness #50 in Diagram ( A212-540-78-13) yet with item #590 TPC Harness (A212-540-69-35) that appears to connect w/#50 and then be wired from the rear passenger side to B Pillar across Drivers Side presumably to “connect” under driver seat to the Main Wiring Harness (Hmmm?). Could this be universally available on earlier (ie-2007 E63) Main Harnesses? That would be much easier!
I want TPMS due to the fact that during a brief time of driving (4 months) between my first build where I had the IM, Heads rebuilt, front suspension, billet pulleys, F1 Fabrications Adjustable Front Upper Control Arms, and before my current latest build that started 5000 mi later at the dawn of the CCP Virus after my Rear Main Seal went and I proceeded to rebuild the whole rear end with 3.06 Gears, I was driving across Florida to Tampa and found myself passing a couple Semi's in 4th gear at around 5000rpm! A couple miles down the road I pulled over to check Oil (due to my leaking Rear Main causing white smoke to emanate from the X-pipe of my exhaust!) and I happened to look down and notice my Driver Rear Tire was completely flat!! Only the beefy Michelin Sidewalls were what kept my rims from getting eaten alive that day! Turns out I had a roofing nail hit perfectly in between treads, so I repressurized the tire and got it fixed locally in about an hour! I was amazed that the rest of the suspension/car was so evenly weighted that I wouldn't have even noticed it had it not been for my pulling over and seeing it!!! I was blown away that I made that pass without even feeling it!! Fortunately it was a dead straight road otherwise I might have realized it too late!!
After some further research in EPC, it appears that in the Model W211277 Wagon (E63) the Siemens system allows for either a 315 or 433 Frequency Antennae in the rear but only allows for 2 X 125 Frequency Antennae in the front. So, being that there are no 125 Frequency TPMS Sensors at all, does this mean that the Front 125 Frequency can recognize both 315 and 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors? In addition, it offers a non- descript Control Unit (that must pick-up both 315 & 433 TPMS in the Front & Rear) lodged in the rear. I’ve heard people chime in stating to be sure to pair the Antennae with the TPMS Sensor, but this fact throws that reasoning into question! Could it be that the 125 Frequency Front Antennae can recognize either the 315 or 433 but output at 125 Frequency to allow the Control Unit to distinguish between front and rear? Otherwise, why does not EPC list anything but 125 Frequency for Siemens Front Antennae but only list 315 and 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors for the rear? The “Tire Pressure Control” Harness that is offered are either the Code “470”, which references Fan Clutch, ABS, and TPM “Low Line 470” in its description, or the Code “475” TPC (control) & TPM (monitor), or “475 Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) High Line/Mid Line + 489 (Airmatic Dual Control Semi Active) + 809 ( After May -2005). The latter part No. is (A211-440-10-05 or 12-05).
The W212077 (E63), on the other hand, has only the 433.92 Frequency TPMS Sensors, no Antennae in any wheel wells ( Bonus! ), One Control Unit in the Rear (A000-900-37-04) along with a short Harness #50 in Diagram (which itself may be some sort of Antenna because of its odd shape?) Part No- ( A212-540-78-13) which appears to connect to item #590 TPC Harness (A212-540-69-35) that is wired from the rear passenger side wheel well to B Pillar across Drivers Side presumably to “connect” under driver seat to the Main Wiring Harness (Hmmm?). Could this be universally “connected to” earlier (ie-2007 E63) Main Harnesses? If so, where might this harness connect to in my 2007E63? Under the NAV Unit/Driver Seat/Other? Is there a specific socket for it to connect to or is the fact that the harness comes from the Control Unit thereby mean it can be connected to the CANBUS, which can be done in multiple places, as that may make installation even easier if this harness can be run from the Rear Wheel Well to possibly the Spot Under the Rear NAV Unit?!? But that would make it too easy!
The W212077 (E63 Sedan) however has only the 433.92 Frequency TPMS Sensors, no Antennae in any wheel wells ( Bonus! ), One Control Unit in the Rear (A 000-900-37-04, along with a short Harness #50 in Diagram ( A212-540-78-13) yet with item #590 TPC Harness (A212-540-69-35) that appears to connect w/#50 and then be wired from the rear passenger side to B Pillar across Drivers Side presumably to “connect” under driver seat to the Main Wiring Harness (Hmmm?). Could this be universally available on earlier (ie-2007 E63) Main Harnesses? That would be much easier!
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