W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

E65 possible.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 04:19 PM
  #1  
Crescendo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
From: Gulf, FL
Takes the bus.
E65 possible.

Anyone know of any w211 e55's fitted with a 65 series engine? Is it possible without redoing the firewall?
Would be a one hell of a sleeper.

Sorry if the title made it sound like an e65 was coming out.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 04:21 PM
  #2  
AZIPOD's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 574
Likes: 1
From: NorCal
W211,E90,E66,E39,E38,NSX,Z32-TT
I think Brabus? had showcased a MB 12-cylinder engine in the W211 before.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 04:23 PM
  #3  
V12Godspeed's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,768
Likes: 5
From: South FL & NYC
Your worst nightmare...
Originally Posted by AZIPOD
I think Brabus? had showcased a MB 12-cylinder engine in the W211 before.
Yeah, they also want an arm and a leg.

The project is definitely doable with patience and of course a V12 motor....
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 04:26 PM
  #4  
Point2Point's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
997.2 GT3
I believe Brabus has shoehorned twin-turbo V12 engines into E, CLS, C and even GLK class vehicles.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 04:29 PM
  #5  
tgoss's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,771
Likes: 0
From: San Diego, CA
'13 GT-R AMS Alpha 9+, CLA45, E55
Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
Yeah, they also want an arm and a leg.

The project is definitely doable with patience and of course a V12 motor....
No doubt, with enough money anything is possible
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 04:57 PM
  #6  
prodigymb's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,172
Likes: 3
From: Philly
997TT, C192 GT63, W464 G550, MS Plaid
it is possible. and it is probably easier then most think. the engine will fit, the mounts can be made or borrowed from other platforms that have both 55 and 65 engines. i would love to do something like that, but then you have the ECU, tc, the can-bus network etc to deal with.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 05:00 PM
  #7  
ZAHANMA's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 344
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
'13 Dodge Dart, '16 Audi Q5
I think the Brabus GLK v12 is something stupid like $500,000.

I mean yes, if you have enough money you can do almost anything...but at some point do it become excessive...


Although I would love to see an E55 w/ a 65 transplant.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 06:48 PM
  #8  
Forrest Gump 9's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,190
Likes: 35
shrimp boat
Why don't you just try to turbocharge the E55? I think it'll be just as potent and probably a lot cheaper.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 07:51 PM
  #9  
E550-Coupe's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 77
Likes: 1
From: Alberta, Canada
2010 E550 Coupe, 2008 ML 320 CDI
Originally Posted by Crescendo
Anyone know of any w211 e55's fitted with a 65 series engine? Is it possible without redoing the firewall?
Would be a one hell of a sleeper.

Sorry if the title made it sound like an e65 was coming out.
yeah it did sound like an e65 was coming out~
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:54 AM
  #10  
i_am_amused's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,071
Likes: 0
From: NoVa
2004 S55 (SOLD, miss it every day), 2009 GL550
Originally Posted by Forrest Gump 9
Why don't you just try to turbocharge the E55? I think it'll be just as potent and probably a lot cheaper.
VW has a European-market vehicle that is both turbocharged and supercharged (apologies for the Popular Science link, but Google didn't pull up any fancy-pants car links )

Now available in Europe in the sporty Golf GT, Volkswagen's Twincharger system consists of a highly economical 1.4-liter direct-injection four-cylinder engine equipped with both a supercharger and a turbocharger. The supercharger, belt-driven off the crankshaft, compensates for the engine's small displacement by forcing air into the cylinders at low revs to bolster torque. As the tachometer climbs, an exhaust-gas-driven turbocharger further boosts the horsepower. The GT hits 62 mph in 7.9 seconds and goes on to 136 mph, while returning an impressive average of 39 mpg.
Imagine doing this with 5.5 liters instead of 1.4

Someone toss a turbo (or perhaps two?) on a 55K and let's see if you can get 39 mpg
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:18 AM
  #11  
Forrest Gump 9's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,190
Likes: 35
shrimp boat
Originally Posted by i_am_amused
VW has a European-market vehicle that is both turbocharged and supercharged (apologies for the Popular Science link, but Google didn't pull up any fancy-pants car links )



Imagine doing this with 5.5 liters instead of 1.4

Someone toss a turbo (or perhaps two?) on a 55K and let's see if you can get 39 mpg
My thought is to ditch the SC system all together. Build a sheet metal intake manifold, two turbo manifold, two 35R turbos, front mount air to air IC. That right there should be more than enough for most of us. Building stuff is the easy part, but I have no clue of any one can tune such set up. May have to resort to Motec or Fast stand alone ECU to tune. Gosh dang it, I'm gonna turn my family cruiser into a track car again!!
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:51 AM
  #12  
Crescendo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
From: Gulf, FL
Takes the bus.
I r can haz turbo w211?
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2010 | 11:25 AM
  #13  
blackbenzz's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 13,489
Likes: 96
haters crazy
Originally Posted by Forrest Gump 9
My thought is to ditch the SC system all together. Build a sheet metal intake manifold, two turbo manifold, two 35R turbos, front mount air to air IC. That right there should be more than enough for most of us. Building stuff is the easy part, but I have no clue of any one can tune such set up. May have to resort to Motec or Fast stand alone ECU to tune. Gosh dang it, I'm gonna turn my family cruiser into a track car again!!
Ding ding ding!!!
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2010 | 11:28 AM
  #14  
Full Throttle's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 971
Likes: 1
From: D.C. METRO AREA
CLS55 AMG
Originally Posted by ZAHANMA
I think the Brabus GLK v12 is something stupid like $500,000.
You can build a 1500whp Gallardo for much less than that.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2010 | 12:24 PM
  #15  
E55AMGFan's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 577
Likes: 0
LS430
Originally Posted by Full Throttle
You can build a 1500whp Gallardo for much less than that.
100-120k for SE 6speed or E-Gear + 100k for UGRs Race Kit.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2010 | 02:27 PM
  #16  
Jakpro1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,092
Likes: 13
From: Salt Lake City (but not Morm)
2003 E55 & 2014 GL550
If Benz didn't make these ()*&()&)in ECU's near impossible to ()&)*&()in mod, we'd all be having a field day with these engines.

I would totally be willing to take a whack at a turb system!

To bad to program these ECU's you gotta fight off the agents and make it to machine city. Programmer after programmer I have talked to says it's a nightmare to try to get all the programs in the matrix to play nice together.

Reply
Old Jan 8, 2010 | 02:42 PM
  #17  
V12Godspeed's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,768
Likes: 5
From: South FL & NYC
Your worst nightmare...
Originally Posted by Jakpro1
If Benz didn't make these ()*&()&)in ECU's near impossible to ()&)*&()in mod, we'd all be having a field day with these engines.

I would totally be willing to take a whack at a turb system!

To bad to program these ECU's you gotta fight off the agents and make it to machine city. Programmer after programmer I have talked to says it's a nightmare to try to get all the programs in the matrix to play nice together.

I agree Jim. But I am sure if brabus does it it is doable, I mean come on, they stuffed the damn V12 in a W203 body...they stuff it in every damn mercedes!! I think its doable, just a matter of time before it happens.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 06:36 PM
  #18  
Luke_M's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 394
Likes: 2
From: Knoxville, TN
E55, Supercharged Z4 (sold)
I would love to see what Undergroud Racing could do to these motors with a turbo. Even dual intercoolers open up the way for 700hp with the stock SC from what I've gathered.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:03 PM.

story-0
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-2
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-5
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-6
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE