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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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EBC Yellowstuff pads?

I was trying to find an upgrade pad compound for the OEM 8 piston Brembos.

Has anyone tried this pad? How was it compared to stock/factory pads?

I don't care about dust, I care about stopping performance, both repeated, as well as cold stop/bite.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:14 AM
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Cannot comment on those, but a few here including myself have Reds which I thoroughly recommend. Good initial bite and very fade resistant from triple digits. Noisy break in period, but no dust nor noise after wards. Plus, these pads come with news sensors and of course a spot to fit them, a few aftermarket pads not not have a provision for the sensors.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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Stick with reds my friend. the yellow require ALOT of heat to work, hence this is why they are a TRACK pad. If your wife or friends drive it, you are asking for problems as they will NOT bite very well when cold.

Even a nut like me only used the reds. A few have done it on the C32, but again I would not recommend it unless you are the ONLY driver and are aware of the poor cold braking.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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How do the Reds compare to OEM? Thanks for the info guys!
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Auraraptor
How do the Reds compare to OEM? Thanks for the info guys!
VASTLY superior my friend.

I run them on ALL of my cars, from fords, MB, and my 300SRT.

Lower dust, GREAT initial bite, and truly track worthy, aka NO fade.

Just remember to READ the instructions, as they give you a GOOD bedding procedure. If you follow it, they will not squeal and work great. If you don't, they can squeal.

Note: ALL brake pads require bedding. This is NOT unique to EBC.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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I`m running on yellows and they do work better when hot !!!! I will be going down the red route next time, I`ve had a few momments when braking from realy high speeds with cold pads. Not recomended for road use.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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No problems what so ever..My car always stop perfectly...I'm not hard on breaks at all either, I try to conserve them and they always bite good for me!
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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When you guys have ordered rotors, do they usually come looking like this?



Dull gray coating?
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nait Sirhc
When you guys have ordered rotors, do they usually come looking like this?



Dull gray coating?
Yup. As soon you give the brakes a good stomp, it will clear up...
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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so your saying as far as the pads to go with the reds what about as far as rotors go??
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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When you guys have ordered rotors, do they usually come looking like this?



Dull gray coating?
Where did you get the rotors and how much?
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Parts.net for $92/ea. They shipped from a Mercedes-Benz dealership in FL.
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Is anyone aware of any aftermarkets pads for the E63? I looked around, and can't seem to find anything for the E63. The only thing going these days are the OEM. Which work great, but the dust in a pain in the ***. Any recommendation is greatly appreciated, and by the way EBC, Akebono and Porterfields do not manufacture pads for the E63.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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Parts.net for $92/ea. They shipped from a Mercedes-Benz dealership in FL.
Wow. They were the correct 360mm disks? That is awesome! BTW, do you know the factory thickness?
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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I don't think anything is much better than the OEM Brembos and they don't squeak. I have heard with various EBCs and Akebonos squeaking stories and they "do not have as good of an initial bite" as the OEMs. I just think the stock Brembos were made for our cars and are the best application for our cars. Brakes are one of the most important pieces on the car and I'll just clean the stupid rims like I've been doing. No biggie.
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Originally Posted by jicl55
I don't think anything is much better than the OEM Brembos and they don't squeak. I have heard with various EBCs and Akebonos squeaking stories and they "do not have as good of an initial bite" as the OEMs. I just think the stock Brembos were made for our cars and are the best application for our cars. Brakes are one of the most important pieces on the car and I'll just clean the stupid rims like I've been doing. No biggie.
Sorry sir, but take your car to the track and you will quickly find out about the short comings of the OEM pad, aka FADE.

I can only tell you that the squeaking, which I have helped a few out here with, comes from improper bedding. ALL pads require bedding, some more so than others.

At the track, both Beaverun and Nelson Ledges my OEM pads would fade after about 16-18 laps. Depending on how hard I was pushing. After EBC redstuff, I could stay out for the full 30 minute session. Hence I am a BIG believer.

If you are NEVER going to the track, then YES OEM pads do work GREAT. However if you are a track junky, or even an occasional warrior, CHANGE THEM NOW
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Does anyone know of any aftermarkets pads for the E63? I looked around, and can't seem to find anything for the E63. By the way EBC, Akebono and Porterfields do not manufacture pads for the E63.
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Sorry sir, but take your car to the track and you will quickly find out about the short comings of the OEM pad, aka FADE.

I can only tell you that the squeaking, which I have helped a few out here with, comes from improper bedding. ALL pads require bedding, some more so than others.

At the track, both Beaverun and Nelson Ledges my OEM pads would fade after about 16-18 laps. Depending on how hard I was pushing. After EBC redstuff, I could stay out for the full 30 minute session. Hence I am a BIG believer.

If you are NEVER going to the track, then YES OEM pads do work GREAT. However if you are a track junky, or even an occasional warrior, CHANGE THEM NOW
Not saying they are the greatest pad ever invented, and for tracking they probably are not. If you do take it to the track often, the EBC reds may be a better way to go. Probably not so great for street driving tho because they have to be heated up more (vs. stock) to work properly and to not have any noises whatsoever. Then again, there are people like you who swear by them, so who knows. I don't take my car to the track, so I think the EBC reds (or yellows) are not what I need, and there is nothing worse than having brand new brakes and squeaking like crazy everywhere you go. Been there, done that, don't want to do it again. So it depends on your application, as you say, and what you want from your brakes. I would love a break pad that works better, makes no noises, makes no dust, lasts longer and costs less. For me, just don't think it's out there right now. But Google and the search button are your best friend... just what I have concluded from using those two.

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Does anyone know of any aftermarkets pads for the E63? I looked around, and can't seem to find anything for the E63. By the way EBC, Akebono and Porterfields do not manufacture pads for the E63.
....not 100%, but I read somewhere, as of right now, I think you are stuck with the OEMs as the only option.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Not saying they are the greatest pad ever invented, and for tracking they probably are not. If you do take it to the track often, the EBC reds may be a better way to go. Probably not so great for street driving tho because they have to be heated up more (vs. stock) to work properly and to not have any noises whatsoever. Then again, there are people like you who swear by them, so who knows. I don't take my car to the track, so I think the EBC reds (or yellows) are not what I need, and there is nothing worse than having brand new brakes and squeaking like crazy everywhere you go. Been there, done that, don't want to do it again. So it depends on your application, as you say, and what you want from your brakes. I would love a break pad that works better, makes no noises, makes no dust, lasts longer and costs less. For me, just don't think it's out there right now. But Google and the search button are your best friend... just what I have concluded from using those two.
I hear you my friend, and completly understand your position

In my C32 I just needed something MORE aggresive. But to be honest, I have enjoyed them in all my cars. And yes NONE of them squeak, which by the way is also a pet peive of mine as well.

Oh well, enough said and take it easy my friend.
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I went on parts.net and saw the same thing that I have seen everywhere I have looked. For some reason every single rotor application whether non amg or amg rotors have been 1/3 the price compared to the cl55amg rotors. Can someone tell me why these are so special that there triple to price of every other rotor e55,s55,cl600 etc. It makes no sense to me
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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That doesn't make sense, either... don't you have the same size rotors as the E55? I'd think that you'd at least have the same ones as the S55, as they're based off the same chassis. What are the part numbers?
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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I don't know but every time I need a part for my cr my *** hurts cause fr some reason its triple every other car. If someone can please tell me if any other rotor besides the ones that are triple for my car fit I would greatly appreciate it
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:57 PM
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I don't know but every time I need a part for my cr my *** hurts cause fr some reason its triple every other car. If someone can please tell me if any other rotor besides the ones that are triple for my car fit I would greatly appreciate it
According to parts.com, 01-03 CL55 (01 and 02 being the non-supercharged version, 03 being supercharged) are $92. 04-06 CL55, rotors are $258. 04-06 E55s are $92. Weird. I have a 2003 CL55, so not sure if the $92 would work, or am I suppose to get the other one. Does the 03 CL55 have different brakes than the 04-06 CL55s? The more expensive one (04-06 CL55 $258) is 220 421 19 12, I believe. This part number is also referenced for 03-06 CL55s. 3 questions: E55 brakes are not the same as the CL55s? Possible, since our car is much heavier. Second question: Which rotor should I (and silvercl55) get? Mine is 03. Final question: best prices for rotors and pads? Parts.com is it or anything better/cheaper? Hope that helps
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Reds provide just as good initial bite as the crappy OEM linings with far far superior fade resistance along with considerably less dust and NO squeal. Even if I were to drive 5 miles a week I would go with the Reds over OEM anytime.
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