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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Track with drag radials, do you run in dyno mode?

I am getting excited about running the car at the track with drag radials this season. Up until now its been on street tires and the lack of traction is a killer. My question is for those that are currently running at the track with drag raidials....

Do you put the car into dyno mode so you can heat up the tires and run the 1/4 mile still in dyno mode?

What is your technique?

It just seems unsafe to run in dyno mode, given that it disables a lot.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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nah no dyno mode. just TC off. play with tire pressure too...

i may go to Atco this Sunday morning. get your tires yet?
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
nah no dyno mode. just TC off. play with tire pressure too...

i may go to Atco this Sunday morning. get your tires yet?
+1 start at 26psi and work your way down atleast that's what I did and I ended up loving the feel at 20psi.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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+1 start at 26psi and work your way down atleast that's what I did and I ended up loving the feel at 20psi.
Yeah agree. I ran my 18" Nittos at 24psi.

I run the 16" M/Ts at 18psi
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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The first time I went out with my drag package set up, I ran the car in dyno mode. This past weekend, I ran with just ESP off and it ran the same!

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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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So, you didn't heat the tires prior to running? Just holding the brake down with the TC off doesn't allow me to get a good burn.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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I didn't realize they were open yet! I am getting them sunday morning. Text me to discuss. I might be able to get them sooner.
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So, you didn't heat the tires prior to running? Just holding the brake down with the TC off doesn't allow me to get a good burn.
Were you askin me?

If so....

A burnout of NECESSARY. Ask the guys that were at the Famoso event this past weekend. I did a lil burnout

If you turn off TC, you should be able to hold on the brake, gas it and get the wheels to spin like no tomorrow. It should be a smoke show even if yer stock.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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.....dumb question then. With street tires, I was unable to get a burnout, so I am assuming that with the DR's, its much easier with just the TC off? My car is far from stock, yet with the street tires last season at the track, I couldn't warm them up even if I wanted to. The TC is never fully disabled and it would kick in, and cut the power off.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevinw23michele
.....dumb question then. With street tires, I was unable to get a burnout, so I am assuming that with the DR's, its much easier with just the TC off? My car is far from stock, yet with the street tires last season at the track, I couldn't warm them up even if I wanted to. The TC is never fully disabled and it would kick in, and cut the power off.
i do a 2 gear burnout with just TC off. yea Atco may open this Sunday if it's not wet and above 35 degress. forecast says 36 and sunny....fingers crossed.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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never in dyno for me

After watching a mustang crash into the guard rails, I decided never to have dyno mode enabled when doing the 1/4.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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After watching a mustang crash into the guard rails, I decided never to have dyno mode enabled when doing the 1/4.
Maybe he just couldnt drive.. LOL

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Maybe he just couldnt drive.. LOL

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what's your web address?
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
i do a 2 gear burnout with just TC off
+1
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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I always run with the car NOT in dyno mode. Even more interestingly i have run my fastest times with the TC on. If you heat the tires up and launch this car correctly it will make no difference if the TC is on or off. I know there are other track gurus here that will agree.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
i do a 2 gear burnout with just TC off. yea Atco may open this Sunday if it's not wet and above 35 degress. forecast says 36 and sunny....fingers crossed.

Do click into 2nd or let it auto shift?
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Maybe he just couldnt drive.. LOL

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I always have traction control off. My car doesn't have dyno mode
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Do click into 2nd or let it auto shift?
autoshift
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:47 PM
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FWIW, I also couldn't get a burn-out going without dyno mode on both street tires and DRs. After dyno mode, putting on a smoke show was cake.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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I would have bet the bank that you needed Dyno to run 10's and 11's but ole Hammer and Alan continue to prove me wrong.

I can't wait to make it down to Sacto to try a run without dyno mode.

I guess the trick is getting those tires to really heat up and plant off the line. Once that yellow triangle of death kicked in, my runs were always toast (well any chance of records)
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
I would have bet the bank that you needed Dyno to run 10's and 11's but ole Hammer and Alan continue to prove me wrong.

I can't wait to make it down to Sacto to try a run without dyno mode.

I guess the trick is getting those tires to really heat up and plant off the line. Once that yellow triangle of death kicked in, my runs were always toast (well any chance of records)
Hey Jim! What's shaken buddy.

I honestly believe running in dyno mods is useless and pointless. There is no extra power to be had and our cars could launch fine with ESP on or off, that's a fact. I have ran 10's with ESP on and off and also dip into 1.58's on my 60' times.

BTW...Jim when do you plan on coming to Sacramento? You should come soon well the weather is still good. IMO 10's should be rather easy for your beast and if needed Ill have my drag setup on standby.

Just this past weekend I ran Mike's AMG's car at Famoso and got better times than Sacramento in 1000 feet higher DA. Due to Mike's burnout issues I ended up doing my burnout in dyno mode, come out of the box, dyno mode off, shut the car off, start the car, ESP off, and stage.....

I now launch with ESP off just for the fact that there's one less thing I need to worry about at the lights. Bottom line, either you hook or you don't, whether it's in dyno mode, ESP on or off it doesn't matter. Here's something else worth noting, doing that 1st gear slow long burnout is also a waste of time. It's all about tire speed and not the length of your burnout. I probably do a 4-5 second burnout and come out in 3rd gear. I dead hook every time.

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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
I would have bet the bank that you needed Dyno to run 10's and 11's but ole Hammer and Alan continue to prove me wrong.

I can't wait to make it down to Sacto to try a run without dyno mode.

I guess the trick is getting those tires to really heat up and plant off the line. Once that yellow triangle of death kicked in, my runs were always toast (well any chance of records)
Hey Jim, let me know if you plan to come down to Sac and I'll head up to run with you and I'm sure Alan and Mike will head up as well.
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
I now launch with ESP off just for the fact that there's one less thing I need to worry about at the lights. Bottom line, either you hook or you don't, whether it's in dyno mode, ESP on or off it doesn't matter. Here's something else worth noting, doing that 1st gear slow long burnout is also a waste of time. It's all about tire speed and not the length of your burnout. I probably do a 4-5 second burnout and come out in 3rd gear. I dead hook every time.
Do you continue to let the RPMs rise and the car shifts or what? The issue I had was the car killing the power before I could see any smoke. I'd spin for a second and my power would be gone forcing me out of the burn out. Seemed like the ECU wasn't happy with the tires spinning yet not going anywhere. Maybe my RPMs were too high, too low?
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