Retrofitting TPMS?
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Retrofitting TPMS?
I have an '04 E55 that does not have TPMS. It had a couple of rough wheels, so I ended up buying a set of '06 E55 wheels on ebay that happen to have TMPS sensors in them.
Does anyone know what I would need to do to get sensors talking to the car? Is there some module to add to the car?
It sounds like a lot of folks here think TPMS is more trouble than it is worth. I had it on previous Corvettes and liked it. Are Mercedes more issue prone?
Does anyone know what I would need to do to get sensors talking to the car? Is there some module to add to the car?
It sounds like a lot of folks here think TPMS is more trouble than it is worth. I had it on previous Corvettes and liked it. Are Mercedes more issue prone?
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Yes, possible.
I had it retrofitted in my cls but not an easy p&p: you'll need its control module, an antenna fitted into each wheel arc, its special cable ran for connecting all said things together .. and the system reprogrammed through DAS for recognizing the new device.
not cheap either ..
I had it retrofitted in my cls but not an easy p&p: you'll need its control module, an antenna fitted into each wheel arc, its special cable ran for connecting all said things together .. and the system reprogrammed through DAS for recognizing the new device.
not cheap either ..
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If the batteries are good and you don't want to go through the hassle I'll buy them off you. Mine are out of batteries and to get new sensors it's $200 so I just left them off. Let me know.
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Retrofitting tpms no w164 ml
Yes, possible.
I had it retrofitted in my cls but not an easy p&p: you'll need its control module, an antenna fitted into each wheel arc, its special cable ran for connecting all said things together .. and the system reprogrammed through DAS for recognizing the new device.
not cheap either ..
I had it retrofitted in my cls but not an easy p&p: you'll need its control module, an antenna fitted into each wheel arc, its special cable ran for connecting all said things together .. and the system reprogrammed through DAS for recognizing the new device.
not cheap either ..
Thanks.
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Wow ... super old thread .. I did this a few months ago .. you need DAS developer to enable the functions. There are probably fewer and fewer dealers that can or are willing to do something like this these days.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I use too das in developer mode. But I can't see the tpms unit. I did everything like:
Activate in cgs
Activate in can
I don't know how can activate in ki(instrument cluster€
Install all components (harness, antenna, control unit)
Sensor wheels are not installed yet. I ll do it after control unit is recognized.
Actually I don't know what to do.
Thanks.
Activate in cgs
Activate in can
I don't know how can activate in ki(instrument cluster€
Install all components (harness, antenna, control unit)
Sensor wheels are not installed yet. I ll do it after control unit is recognized.
Actually I don't know what to do.
Thanks.
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Any chance of a part number list and where the control module would be plugged in? Been contemplating adding this for a while but not so much info out there each time I've searched.
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I got my stuff from Ebay.de (much easier to find) so mine is for European version. The only difference is that you need to use 433MHz sensors instead of 315MHz. 433MHz sensors are actually marginally cheaper.
Controller 2118207085 (433.9MHz)
Harness 2115406207 - this one actually came with high and low pressure lines which are not needed. Can use the cheaper version .. can't recall cheaper version part number - maybe try 2114406605 ... it is way cheaper.
Antennae - I need to search for the part numbers .. it's been a while. Four antennae are needed (one for each wheel well). They are all the same but make sure that you get the right antenna for the right controller. 433.9MHz for example. The Antenna frequency needs to match the frequency of the controller.
Brackets for wheel well:
2115461743
2115461843
2115461943
2115462043
Controller 2118207085 (433.9MHz)
Harness 2115406207 - this one actually came with high and low pressure lines which are not needed. Can use the cheaper version .. can't recall cheaper version part number - maybe try 2114406605 ... it is way cheaper.
Antennae - I need to search for the part numbers .. it's been a while. Four antennae are needed (one for each wheel well). They are all the same but make sure that you get the right antenna for the right controller. 433.9MHz for example. The Antenna frequency needs to match the frequency of the controller.
Brackets for wheel well:
2115461743
2115461843
2115461943
2115462043
Last edited by turbo97se; 12-16-2014 at 01:53 PM.
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THANK YOU!!
This is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you once again kind sir
I got my stuff from Ebay.de (much easier to find) so mine is for European version. The only difference is that you need to use 433MHz sensors instead of 315MHz. 433MHz sensors are actually marginally cheaper.
Controller 2118207085 (433.9MHz)
Harness 2115406207 - this one actually came with high and low pressure lines which are not needed. Can use the cheaper version .. can't recall cheaper version part number - maybe try 2114406605 ... it is way cheaper.
Antennae - I need to search for the part numbers .. it's been a while. Four antennae are needed (one for each wheel well). They are all the same but make sure that you get the right antenna for the right controller. 433.9MHz for example. The Antenna frequency needs to match the frequency of the controller.
Brackets for wheel well:
2115461743
2115461843
2115461943
2115462043
Controller 2118207085 (433.9MHz)
Harness 2115406207 - this one actually came with high and low pressure lines which are not needed. Can use the cheaper version .. can't recall cheaper version part number - maybe try 2114406605 ... it is way cheaper.
Antennae - I need to search for the part numbers .. it's been a while. Four antennae are needed (one for each wheel well). They are all the same but make sure that you get the right antenna for the right controller. 433.9MHz for example. The Antenna frequency needs to match the frequency of the controller.
Brackets for wheel well:
2115461743
2115461843
2115461943
2115462043
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pls list ALL of the part #s so i can figure out how much it's gonna cost me...
I got my stuff from Ebay.de (much easier to find) so mine is for European version. The only difference is that you need to use 433MHz sensors instead of 315MHz. 433MHz sensors are actually marginally cheaper.
Controller 2118207085 (433.9MHz)
Harness 2115406207 - this one actually came with high and low pressure lines which are not needed. Can use the cheaper version .. can't recall cheaper version part number - maybe try 2114406605 ... it is way cheaper.
Antennae - I need to search for the part numbers .. it's been a while. Four antennae are needed (one for each wheel well). They are all the same but make sure that you get the right antenna for the right controller. 433.9MHz for example. The Antenna frequency needs to match the frequency of the controller.
Brackets for wheel well:
2115461743
2115461843
2115461943
2115462043
Controller 2118207085 (433.9MHz)
Harness 2115406207 - this one actually came with high and low pressure lines which are not needed. Can use the cheaper version .. can't recall cheaper version part number - maybe try 2114406605 ... it is way cheaper.
Antennae - I need to search for the part numbers .. it's been a while. Four antennae are needed (one for each wheel well). They are all the same but make sure that you get the right antenna for the right controller. 433.9MHz for example. The Antenna frequency needs to match the frequency of the controller.
Brackets for wheel well:
2115461743
2115461843
2115461943
2115462043
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I'll try to look them up .. Also there is a change in 2006. So if you are 2006 then the part numbers may not be valid.
The other thing is that the coding was not so straightforward. I had to update my CGW software revision for some reason before the menu for the TPMS would show up ... it is strange because TPMS was available before 2005 for sure.
Lastly, I cannot remember all the steps to get this to work I flipped just about every setting in the Kombi cluster to get it to work and even then it did not want to show up right away. I think the TPMS is just finicky.
The other thing is that the coding was not so straightforward. I had to update my CGW software revision for some reason before the menu for the TPMS would show up ... it is strange because TPMS was available before 2005 for sure.
Lastly, I cannot remember all the steps to get this to work I flipped just about every setting in the Kombi cluster to get it to work and even then it did not want to show up right away. I think the TPMS is just finicky.
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Here is the complete list for 2005 E55 AMG:
433.9 MHz TPMS (Europe)
Antenna: 0018274001 x4
TPMS Controller: 2118207085 x1 or 2118204026 (Newer version)
Brackets for wheel well: 2115461743, 2115461843, 2115461943, 2115462043
Harness: 2115406207 (or possibly 2114406605) x1
433.9 MHz TPMS (Europe)
Antenna: 0018274001 x4
TPMS Controller: 2118207085 x1 or 2118204026 (Newer version)
Brackets for wheel well: 2115461743, 2115461843, 2115461943, 2115462043
Harness: 2115406207 (or possibly 2114406605) x1
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Here is the complete list for 2005 E55 AMG:
433.9 MHz TPMS (Europe)
Antenna: 0018274001 x4
TPMS Controller: 2118207085 x1 or 2118204026 (Newer version)
Brackets for wheel well: 2115461743, 2115461843, 2115461943, 2115462043
Harness: 2115406207 (or possibly 2114406605) x1
433.9 MHz TPMS (Europe)
Antenna: 0018274001 x4
TPMS Controller: 2118207085 x1 or 2118204026 (Newer version)
Brackets for wheel well: 2115461743, 2115461843, 2115461943, 2115462043
Harness: 2115406207 (or possibly 2114406605) x1
What about the part numbers for the antennas harnesses?
And the big question is ?? Does the TPMS you installed give you tire pressures as soon as you turn the key to Position 1? You installed the Beru system correct?
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MY 2007 E63 (build date in 2006) did NOT have TPMS, but I went and paid full boat for a set of 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors to install after receiving confirmation from some AVIN "tech" (I am using that term very loosely here!) that their TPMS Control Unit would work with "any" 433 TPMS. Well, I should have known better than to take their wholesome knowledge for it! That said, I have 4 new tires installed with them and I'm trying to make it work. Problem is, I'm not entirely sure the 433 Frequency will work with parts given under the EPC, even though they were supposedly standard with the Siemen's System since 2005? The reason I'm not sure is due to the Beru Systems being used in W211 until 2004. Being that my E63 is a first year, it may have retained the Beru Main Harness connection (under rear NAV or under Driver Seat?) for whatever reason until perhaps a later date and the EPC will not necessarily specify which one is which but only to provide a part #!?
I want TPMS due to the fact that during a brief time of driving (4 months) between my first build where I had the IM, Heads rebuilt, front suspension, billet pulleys, F1 Fabrications Adjustable Front Upper Control Arms, and before my current latest build that started 5000 mi later at the dawn of the CCP Virus after my Rear Main Seal went and I proceeded to rebuild the whole rear end with 3.06 Gears, I was driving across Florida to Tampa and found myself passing a couple Semi's in 4th gear at around 5000rpm! A couple miles down the road I pulled over to check Oil (due to my leaking Rear Main causing white smoke to emanate from the X-pipe of my exhaust!) and I happened to look down and notice my Driver Rear Tire was completely flat!! Only the beefy Michelin Sidewalls were what kept my rims from getting eaten alive that day! Turns out I had a roofing nail hit perfectly in between treads, so I repressurized the tire and got it fixed locally in about an hour! I was amazed that the rest of the suspension/car was so evenly weighted that I wouldn't have even noticed it had it not been for my pulling over and seeing it!!! I was blown away that I made that pass without even feeling it!! Fortunately it was a dead straight road otherwise I might have realized it too late!!
After some further research in EPC, it appears that in the Model W211277 Wagon (E63) the Siemens system allows for either a 315 or 433 Frequency Antennae in the rear but only allows for 2 X 125 Frequency Antennae in the front. So, being that there are no 125 Frequency TPMS Sensors at all, does this mean that the Front 125 Frequency can recognize both 315 and 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors? In addition, it offers a non- descript Control Unit (that must pick-up both 315 & 433 TPMS in the Front & Rear) lodged in the rear. I’ve heard people chime in stating to be sure to pair the Antennae with the TPMS Sensor, but this fact throws that reasoning into question! Could it be that the 125 Frequency Front Antennae can recognize either the 315 or 433 but output at 125 Frequency to allow the Control Unit to distinguish between front and rear? Otherwise, why does not EPC list anything but 125 Frequency for Siemens Front Antennae but only list 315 and 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors for the rear? The “Tire Pressure Control” Harness that is offered are either the Code “470”, which references Fan Clutch, ABS, and TPM “Low Line 470” in its description, or the Code “475” TPC (control) & TPM (monitor), or “475 Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) High Line/Mid Line + 489 (Airmatic Dual Control Semi Active) + 809 ( After May -2005). The latter part No. is (A211-440-10-05 or 12-05).
The W212077 (E63), on the other hand, has only the 433.92 Frequency TPMS Sensors, no Antennae in any wheel wells ( Bonus! ), One Control Unit in the Rear (A000-900-37-04) along with a short Harness #50 in Diagram (which itself may be some sort of Antenna because of its odd shape?) Part No- ( A212-540-78-13) which appears to connect to item #590 TPC Harness (A212-540-69-35) that is wired from the rear passenger side wheel well to B Pillar across Drivers Side presumably to “connect” under driver seat to the Main Wiring Harness (Hmmm?). Could this be universally “connected to” earlier (ie-2007 E63) Main Harnesses? If so, where might this harness connect to in my 2007E63? Under the NAV Unit/Driver Seat/Other? Is there a specific socket for it to connect to or is the fact that the harness comes from the Control Unit thereby mean it can be connected to the CANBUS, which can be done in multiple places, as that may make installation even easier if this harness can be run from the Rear Wheel Well to possibly the Spot Under the Rear NAV Unit?!? But that would make it too easy!
I want TPMS due to the fact that during a brief time of driving (4 months) between my first build where I had the IM, Heads rebuilt, front suspension, billet pulleys, F1 Fabrications Adjustable Front Upper Control Arms, and before my current latest build that started 5000 mi later at the dawn of the CCP Virus after my Rear Main Seal went and I proceeded to rebuild the whole rear end with 3.06 Gears, I was driving across Florida to Tampa and found myself passing a couple Semi's in 4th gear at around 5000rpm! A couple miles down the road I pulled over to check Oil (due to my leaking Rear Main causing white smoke to emanate from the X-pipe of my exhaust!) and I happened to look down and notice my Driver Rear Tire was completely flat!! Only the beefy Michelin Sidewalls were what kept my rims from getting eaten alive that day! Turns out I had a roofing nail hit perfectly in between treads, so I repressurized the tire and got it fixed locally in about an hour! I was amazed that the rest of the suspension/car was so evenly weighted that I wouldn't have even noticed it had it not been for my pulling over and seeing it!!! I was blown away that I made that pass without even feeling it!! Fortunately it was a dead straight road otherwise I might have realized it too late!!
After some further research in EPC, it appears that in the Model W211277 Wagon (E63) the Siemens system allows for either a 315 or 433 Frequency Antennae in the rear but only allows for 2 X 125 Frequency Antennae in the front. So, being that there are no 125 Frequency TPMS Sensors at all, does this mean that the Front 125 Frequency can recognize both 315 and 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors? In addition, it offers a non- descript Control Unit (that must pick-up both 315 & 433 TPMS in the Front & Rear) lodged in the rear. I’ve heard people chime in stating to be sure to pair the Antennae with the TPMS Sensor, but this fact throws that reasoning into question! Could it be that the 125 Frequency Front Antennae can recognize either the 315 or 433 but output at 125 Frequency to allow the Control Unit to distinguish between front and rear? Otherwise, why does not EPC list anything but 125 Frequency for Siemens Front Antennae but only list 315 and 433 Frequency TPMS Sensors for the rear? The “Tire Pressure Control” Harness that is offered are either the Code “470”, which references Fan Clutch, ABS, and TPM “Low Line 470” in its description, or the Code “475” TPC (control) & TPM (monitor), or “475 Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) High Line/Mid Line + 489 (Airmatic Dual Control Semi Active) + 809 ( After May -2005). The latter part No. is (A211-440-10-05 or 12-05).
The W212077 (E63), on the other hand, has only the 433.92 Frequency TPMS Sensors, no Antennae in any wheel wells ( Bonus! ), One Control Unit in the Rear (A000-900-37-04) along with a short Harness #50 in Diagram (which itself may be some sort of Antenna because of its odd shape?) Part No- ( A212-540-78-13) which appears to connect to item #590 TPC Harness (A212-540-69-35) that is wired from the rear passenger side wheel well to B Pillar across Drivers Side presumably to “connect” under driver seat to the Main Wiring Harness (Hmmm?). Could this be universally “connected to” earlier (ie-2007 E63) Main Harnesses? If so, where might this harness connect to in my 2007E63? Under the NAV Unit/Driver Seat/Other? Is there a specific socket for it to connect to or is the fact that the harness comes from the Control Unit thereby mean it can be connected to the CANBUS, which can be done in multiple places, as that may make installation even easier if this harness can be run from the Rear Wheel Well to possibly the Spot Under the Rear NAV Unit?!? But that would make it too easy!
Last edited by E63007; 11-13-2021 at 11:10 AM.