W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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my 07 E63 has a host of engine issues it all started with bad vibrations through the chassis. Engine knocking , excessive oil consumption then the drivers side upper cam housing was knocking like crazy. Well after the super long battle the engine was bad and needed to be replaced so MB was willing to take me out of my car 2 years ago. The engine had a bad harmonic issue internally causing other parts to fail. Im no engineer or tech but it was serious.

Loved the car and I am now getting an Sl63 with the assumption the car should be bullet proof by now.
I'm getting vibrating like crazy once my engine is warm...And it will stumble at idle every once in a while...I think something might be up with my motor, but it still pulls like a beast and runs about what I'd think it would in the quarter...
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by citylightva
I'm getting vibrating like crazy once my engine is warm...And it will stumble at idle every once in a while...I think something might be up with my motor, but it still pulls like a beast and runs about what I'd think it would in the quarter...
I bet its an engine mount thats collapsed that is creating the vibration.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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I bet its an engine mount thats collapsed that is creating the vibration.
I've been thinking the same thing...I've only felt the idle stumble a couple times and it was in one outing...
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BenzoManNY
my 07 E63 has a host of engine issues it all started with bad vibrations through the chassis. Engine knocking , excessive oil consumption then the drivers side upper cam housing was knocking like crazy. Well after the super long battle the engine was bad and needed to be replaced so MB was willing to take me out of my car 2 years ago. The engine had a bad harmonic issue internally causing other parts to fail. Im no engineer or tech but it was serious.

Loved the car and I am now getting an Sl63 with the assumption the car should be bullet proof by now.
I kind of wish that these motors were built on a standard assembly line by robots instead of 'handbuilt' by humans.....
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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That's because they don't make enough power! ohhhhhhhhhh! DAMN
I beg to differ
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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63's can make great power for an NA setup.

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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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All they really need is a good set of LT's and a couple small things and they're breathing like champs and putting down some crazy NA numbers...
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by citylightva
I'm getting vibrating like crazy once my engine is warm...And it will stumble at idle every once in a while...I think something might be up with my motor, but it still pulls like a beast and runs about what I'd think it would in the quarter...

There are several TSBs regarding this issue, it is cam/VCT related and dealers are aware. FYI. One of my customers had a 2007 E63 for a DD and this is exactly what he experienced and went through.

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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Guys it's very hard to blow up a stock N/A motor, or even one with bolt-on mods.

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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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I beg to differ
Jim, what up bro how have you been?
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That's why we roll NA...And I'm sure that was part of AMG's thinking...
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Holy hell, a set of our plugs is $489.20 at the dealer..??? What are they made of...Unobtanium...LOL...Aren't they Bosch..? I think it'd be cheaper to put Denso's in...And yes I know price of car = price of parts. That just seems REALLY high for just plugs...
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Holy hell, a set of our plugs is $489.20 at the dealer..??? What are they made of...Unobtanium...LOL...Aren't they Bosch..? I think it'd be cheaper to put Denso's in...And yes I know price of car = price of parts. That just seems REALLY high for just plugs...
$60.00 a piece? I think there must be a mistake, does that include labor? That better include the labor as well as a happy ending from the pretty 22 year old cashier girl too.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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$60.00 a piece? I think there must be a mistake, does that include labor? That better include the labor as well as a happy ending from the pretty 22 year old cashier girl too.
Hahaha...I think that was with labor...My shop was just going from dealer pricing...Do we have Bosch plugs..? or NGK..?

My cashiers at PP aren't as pretty as they used to be
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$60.00 a piece? I think there must be a mistake, does that include labor? That better include the labor as well as a happy ending from the pretty 22 year old cashier girl too.
LOL ...... Jim you still got it man
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but i also had the air baffles cut out as well .

What baffles are you talking about?
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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What baffles are you talking about?
You don't have them...You have those ram air snorkels...our's kind of do but they put a slotted baffle in front of the snorkel which is in front of the radiator, so it's more just a cold air intake unless you bend them out or cut them off...
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Tks ^

Back on subject: They may blow up if Jrcart or Rarfinancial is having a bad NOS day.
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Originally Posted by jrcart
$60.00 a piece? I think there must be a mistake, does that include labor? That better include the labor as well as a happy ending from the pretty 22 year old cashier girl too.
Alright that's the old Jim we all know and love

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LOL ...... Jim you still got it man
He's getting warmed up
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Then my shop did it for $400...Gotta pull all the air intake ducting out...What a b*tch...
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Back on subject: They may blow up if Jrcart or Rarfinancial is having a bad NOS day.
Trust me, if my motor was gonna grenade from NOS it would have done it a long time ago. I have easily made 100 NOS passes at the strip, used up two tanks in one afternoon on a road course (friggin blast), regularly spray on the street and sprayed it from 150 to ??? For about 45 seconds straight...somebody is really gonna have to go out of their way to try to break one of these motors, or have a hack tuner work on it and screw something up.

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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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Trust me, if my motor was gonna grenade from NOS it would have done it a long time ago. I have easily made 100 NOS passes at the strip, used up two tanks in one afternoon on a road course (friggin blast), regularly spray on the street and sprayed it from 150 to ??? For about 45 seconds straight...somebody is really gonna have to go out of their way to try to break one of these motors, or have a hack tuner work on it and screw something up.
DAYUM..!!! That's true, the only motor problems I've heard of have been build issues from the factory on stock motors...
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Originally Posted by Sincity
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Back on subject: They may blow up if Jrcart or Rarfinancial is having a bad NOS day.
A failed solenoid = REAL bad day. Nitrous is cheap power and works well when everything is functioning and set up properly. One thing fails or if it isn't setup properly, there goes your motor.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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A failed solenoid = REAL bad day. Nitrous is cheap power and works well when everything is functioning and set up properly. One thing fails or if it isn't setup properly, there goes your motor.
Agreed, but your statement of "one thing fails or if it is not set up properly, there goes your motor" applies to ANY vehicle NOS, N/A, SC'ed or turbo. A properly set up nitrous system should have several failsafes built in to minimize risk. My system will not fire if A/F's are not within a predetermined and pre-set window. As for the solenoids, anyone that has a motor pop because of solenoid failure deserves it. They are inexpensive and they should be replaced and tested regularly, anyone that does not take the time to replace a couple hundred dollars worth of solenoids, lines and fittings on a $40,000 motor (or any motor for that matter) at least once a season deserves a popped motor. This also includes checking and replacing O2 sensors and having your tanks inspected and tested. A nitrous system requires routine maintainance just like any other part of your car.
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